Perfecteffort.com Documentary about De La Salle

[bittersweet]

http://www.perfecteffort.com/

Anyone see this? Looks good.

[consumerman]

http://www.perfecteffort.com/

Anyone see this? Looks good.

lets debate on something relevant this week

like mnw vs slc

[consumerman]

take the key compnents to evaluating a game and I dont see anyway MNW can win

Passing offense
Rushing offense
Passing Defense
Rushing defense
Special teams
Coaching
Home Field

there is nothing in any of these categories that can swing the game to MNW

[steeler 01]

take the key compnents to evaluating a game and I dont see anyway MNW can win

Passing offense
Rushing offense
Passing Defense
Rushing defense
Special teams
Coaching
Home Field

there is nothing in any of these categories that can swing the game to MNW
Well you'd have to put (MNW)Passing offense vs (SLC)Passing Defense. Don't compare each teams Passing offense to the other teams passing offense.

[bittersweet]

lets debate on something relevant this week

like mnw vs slc

so go start a new thread about Northwestern and SLC.

I want to know if the DLS documentary is worth the $24.95?

But since you brought it up, I'm taking SLC +20:thumb:

[SLCDad]

http://www.perfecteffort.com/

Anyone see this? Looks good.

Looks fantastic. More than worth the price.

[consumerman]

I thought the 2000 DLS team was not as strong as some others

Gutierrez had a broken hand injury that had not healed and he was not passing as well as either 1999 or 2001

there was no Atari Callen, DJ Williams or Maurice Drew as a feature RB

they had some close games


including 30-24 tio Buchannan (led 30-12)
and 31-28 to Mater Dei (led 21-0 and 31-14)

I am sure there are some inside items that would be nice to take in

but overall the team was not as good as the 1998-99 or 2001 teams

[RockinL]

How good do you think DLS would have been during those 151 games had they been limited to admitting students from a specific attendance zone, like public schools do. How many of the high level players over the streak years lived within a 15 mile radius of the school?


Im not taking anything away from the DLS staff and what they accomplished, but I do think it makes a difference in talent when you have players from a very large metro area.
I know that prospective players can apply for aid and it is done through a midwest company. Thats fine. What Im wondering is who has first contact with the kid at DLS to get the ball rolling? A counselor? A coach?

I also dont disagree with the fact that a great program will attract great players. I also know that DLS like most private schools is academically sound.

I also remember seeing on the NorCal board a few years back some of the DLS faithful talking about how the new principal?, headmaster?, Brother Brady had really put the squash on financial aid being offered to athletes, hence the dropoff in higher level talent *although still pretty darn good).

Just wondering out loud.

[pied]

How good do you think DLS would have been during those 151 games had they been limited to admitting students from a specific attendance zone, like public schools do. How many of the high level players over the streak years lived within a 15 mile radius of the school?


Im not taking anything away from the DLS staff and what they accomplished, but I do think it makes a difference in talent when you have players from a very large metro area.

I think the answer is an obvious yes, but to me it's irrelevant.

Who cares. They play by the rules that are set up. Both publics/privates have advantages and disadvantages.

In the end, to me if they play by the rules set forth then who cares. I have not seen one shred of evidence that DLS has not played by the rules.(With the exception of holding off season practices)

[RockinL]

I think the answer is an obvious yes, but to me it's irrelevant.

Who cares. They play by the rules that are set up. Both publics/privates have advantages and disadvantages.

In the end, to me if they play by the rules set forth then who cares. I have not seen one shred of evidence that DLS has not played by the rules.(With the exception of holding off season practices)

I didnt say they (DLS) didnt play by the rules.

I was asking who thinks being limited to an attendance zone, would have made a difference, if any, during the streak.

Ive been a fan of DLS from afar for about 8 years. Ive chatted several times over the years with some of the "Spartanhood".

BTW, I have taught and coached in both private and public schools (albeit several years ago). It's just interesting to see advocates and non advocates opinions.


Pied....do you have any idea waht the problem is with the THSF message board?

[pied]

Gotcha.

I think if anyone thinks succesful privates would have similar sucess w/attendance zones they are a dope. I also believe it is a loaded question.

Personally I prefer the privates remain w/TAPPS and not in the UIL. That is not possible in my opinion and only a matter of time.

I also just enrolled my daughter in private school last week (1st grade), don't know where she will end up but happy with the decision now.

THSF, don't know. I've had technical problems with that board for some time. Seems like they always seem to have issues at the most inopportune times.

[DLSfanNW]

I have not seen one shred of evidence that DLS has not played by the rules.(With the exception of holding off season practices)


Are you talking about off season CONDITIONING workouts?

[SteveFoxSC]

i remember that guy, he kept spamming out everyone on youtube when i checked his comments someone just completely annihilated him breaking it down from the cali play offs to present.

[pied]

Are you talking about off season CONDITIONING workouts?


Yes, I believe that is what Lad is referring to when he states rather of matter of factly that he breaks the rule.


Our summer workouts our mandatory. We cannot make them mandatory, but our kids know that they are mandatory.

http://www.the-endzone.net/ladabob.pdf

Look at page seven, on the right side of the page.

I guess he can get away with it, because he goes on to state that if they do go on vacation for a month in the summer they can play JV ball.

I do not think this is relevant to this discussion, merely the only point that I am aware of that Lad/DLS has infringed upon the rules set forth.

[DLSfanNW]

You said "practice" which to me implies Xs and Os.

This is high level fitness training with real trainers and the investment is imperative to the goal of team bonding and if a kid wants to miss a month in the middle of summer to go to Disneyland then this kid would probably not succeed in a DLS system anyway. The kids have a choice. Commit 100% or play JV ball. It is their choice.

See rather then carry a roster of 100 plus players suiting up like some teams (X had so many players that they low fived DeMatha on BOTH sides) only about 40 I believe make the traveling team.

The bar is set very high.

If this was illegal I am sure someone would have mentioned it to the authorities within the last 25 years he has been doing it.

[Chicago]

I don't know if this fits exactly here, but it has a nice mention of DLS, and beyond that seemed like something a lot of the regular crowd might enjoy.

http://www.johntreed.com/coachstaffsize.html

[pied]

You said "practice" which to me implies Xs and Os.

This is high level fitness training with real trainers and the investment is imperative to the goal of team bonding and if a kid wants to miss a month in the middle of summer to go to Disneyland then this kid would probably not succeed in a DLS system anyway. The kids have a choice. Commit 100% or play JV ball. It is their choice.


I understand that clearly. Since you threw out "Disneyland", I'll throw out mission work in Africa.

In Lad's own words, "We cannot make them mandatory, but our kids know that they are mandatory."

To me it is clear he understands there is a rule in place, and he is not adhering to it. If pushed he certainly how has an out after all it's not mandatiry, but it is, but it's not, right????

[pied]

To be clear I don't think this is that big a deal, and I am certain this is fairly standard at many high level programs. It's just that Lad stated in a speech he made.

I was making a statement earlier that I was not aware of DLS breaking any rules. That was not a fact, because I had read this earlier. Doesn't make that big of a difference.

Why has no one reported it? Have no idea. It's not my fight and I am not that concerned.

[consumerman]

I understand that clearly. Since you threw out "Disneyland", I'll throw out mission work in Africa.

In Lad's own words, "We cannot make them mandatory, but our kids know that they are mandatory."

To me it is clear he understands there is a rule in place, and he is not adhering to it. If pushed he certainly how has an out after all it's not mandatiry, but it is, but it's not, right????

Coach John Wooden used to tell his players:

"I don't tell you how long to wear your hair, but I do decide who plays"