Top High school course In Ohio

[sportsfan45]

Who has the nicest course to play on for High school....any thoughts

[bombers24]

well i would say hyde park but i wouldnt necessarily count it because x only plays there once a year as its home course

[henry]

No one has a nicer home course than Cloverleaf High School. They play their home matches at the Westfield Country Club in Westfield Center, which is where the PGA has held their junior championship each of the past 5 years.
I have been to MANY high school golf matches, and Cloverleaf's is by far the nicest for high school golf.

[cincygolfer1234]

Well Upper Arlington host a tournament at Scioto and is co-host of one at Muirfield Village so those are tough to top. As far as home course I would probably say Moller at Kenwood if they let them play the men's course.

[lilbrave05]

indian hill plays at camargo club for every home match. camargo is ranked behind muirfield and i would guess scioto but ih plays all home matches at camargo

[cincygolfer1234]

Yea I forgot about IH playing at Camargo. but coutersharp you would have to be on crack to beleive that the westfield course is half as good as muirfield or scioto.

[Colts n 2005]

Countersharp is not on crack....he is right on the money. I have been to the Westfield Country Club and it is as nice as Muirfield. It is not as long and Jack did not design it, but the quality of the course is just as nice. And being that this is a post about the nicest high school home course, you would be hard pressed to find a team that's home course is nicer than Cloverleaf's.

[cincygolfer1234]

Indian Hill's home course is nicer. Considering they play at Camargo which is ranked in the top 50 in the world by Golf Magazine. Westfield might be in comparable shape to Camargo or Muirfield but the actual quality of the design can not compare. If it could then Westfield would be ranked in the top 100 as well.

[Daddy]

Apparently, people aren't aware of the politics of course rating...

I have played Westfield and Muirfield, caddied Camargo - Westfield is comparable in terms of the layout, shot difficulties / varieties, and CONDITIONING. However, Westfield does not have the history or membership of Muirfield and Camargo, and thus, does not have the ranking.

[cincygolfer1234]

Westfield is a nice course but I can think of at least 20 courses in Ohio that are better.

Muirfield Village
Inverness
The Golf Club
Camargo
Scioto
Double Eagle
Canterbury
Coldstream
The Country Club
Brookside
NCR South
Longaberger
Firestone - South
Firestone - North
Ohio State
Sand Ridge
TPC River's Bend
Avalon Lakes
StoneWater
Tartan Fields
Cooks Creek
New Albany

You have to understand conditioning is a very minor factor in ranking courses. If conditioning was a major factor than Double Eagle would be ranked #2 behind only Augusta National. The other thing that is factored in is the difficulty of the course. Playing from the furthest back tees of all of the above mentioned courses is most certaintly more difficult than Westfield with a few exceptions.

If Westfield is comparable in difficulty to Muirfield Village then why do the best players in the world shot comparable scores to what some of the best juniors in the country shoot at Westfield?

[Daddy]

Westfield is a nice course but I can think of at least 20 courses in Ohio that are better.

Muirfield Village
Inverness
The Golf Club
Camargo
Scioto
Double Eagle
Canterbury
Coldstream
The Country Club
Brookside
NCR South
Longaberger
Firestone - South
Firestone - North
Ohio State
Sand Ridge
TPC River's Bend
Avalon Lakes
StoneWater
Tartan Fields
Cooks Creek
New Albany

You have to understand conditioning is a very minor factor in ranking courses. If conditioning was a major factor than Double Eagle would be ranked #2 behind only Augusta National. The other thing that is factored in is the difficulty of the course. Playing from the furthest back tees of all of the above mentioned courses is most certaintly more difficult than Westfield with a few exceptions.

If Westfield is comparable in difficulty to Muirfield Village then why do the best players in the world shot comparable scores to what some of the best juniors in the country shoot at Westfield?

YOU can think of 20 better courses? Or you can find 20 better courses by searching Golf Magazine's course ratings?

Besides, the thread is about HIGH SCHOOL home courses. And as I stated earlier, the politics of course rating is a tricky thing...

Finally, most major publications provide credit for course "history / nostalgia." Of course the raters are gonna find more history in Muirfield (Tiger's flop for par at 12, Azinger holing out from the bunker on 18) than at Westfield b/c they see the course four days a year EVERY year.

Just my opinion - regardless, kudos to courses like Westfield, Muirfield, and Camargo who open up their facilities to kids trying to get involved in the greatest game.

[henry]

Which high school uses Firestone south as it's home course?

[cincygolfer1234]

Maybe its just me but I don't think that the fact Muirfield hosts the Memorial is the lone reason that it is ranked ahead of Westfeild. Courses like Camargo, Double Eagle, The Golf Club are ranked ahead of Westfield yet are probably seen less than Westfield.

P.S. The famous flop shot of Tiger's was on #14 not #12.

[sportsfan45]

See I have played on both Westfield and Muirfield ....The south course I think of westfield I liked more than muirfield but not the north. Thats why asked cuz I wanted to see what other people thought of those 2 courses. Westfield I felt takes a little more care of you like more food and stuff but thats just a side thing not best course....Never played on Camargo which looks very nice --- well hope i do some day

[anonymousFATBEAR13]

ive never seen cloverleaf's home course but I know camago lets indian hill and madeira use it as there home course. I couldnt imagine cloveleaf's course being to much nicer than camargo.

[cincygolfer1234]

yea camargo lets any school that has a kid on the team who is a member use the course, so obviously indian hill will always have access. and teams like seven hills and maderia will have a pretty good chance.

[bravesgolf98]

you dont have to have a member on your team to get on camargo for matches. madeira plays home matches there and doesnt have any members on their team

[floman]

My grandfather used to belong to westfield for about 5 years. Ive played the south numerous times but saying that it is as good as muirfield is a little bit of an overstatement. Westfield is a great place especially for a home course, probably one of the top 5 best high school venues in the state.

[FormerWildcat]

How many teams play in head-to-head matches versus a bunch of invitationals? Do most teams play head-to-head matches, and therefore use a "home course" frequently?

I was looking at Upper Arlington's schedule (http://www.highschoolsports.net/defaultcal.cfm?ct=s&schoolid=OH432216893&spt=5&lvl=1&division=1&year=2007&CFID=9883&CFTOKEN=20764038), and it looks like they only play a few head-to-head matches.

In fact, I don't think they play the same course twice the entire season, except for the Players Club, but it looks like that's just a one-off coincidence.

[cincygolfer1234]

to answer your question FW...the amount of head-to-head matches you play is very dependent on the strength of the program. schools like st. x, moeller, ua, jerome, etc. will play only a few head-to-head matches. the rest of their schedule consist of weekend invitationals and the league matches, where in most cases all the teams in the league will be present. so like in the gcl south the four teams play four 9-hole after school matches followed by a two day 36 hole tournament to determine the league champ. I'm not certain but I think that the conferences that ua and jerome are in play all 18 hole matches for their league play.

So a weaker team like a fairfield or colerain in cincinnati will play more 9-hole matches than the better teams, and will also play in less competetive tournaments at less prestigous courses.

[Daddy]

Teams are allowed 18 events per season per OHSAA...

An event can be 9-hole match against your neighborhood rival or an 18 hole tourney four hours from home.

FYI - Conference tournaments and Sectional / District / State tournaments do not count in your 18 matches.

[FormerWildcat]

Thanks! I'm also blown away by how often a team like UA will participate in these matches/invitationals during the normal school day.

I realize that golfers are generally considered smart, and probably get good grades for the most part. However, if the football team was out there missing that much school time, there would probably be a huge outcry.

[cincygolfer1234]

I think confernce tournaments count as one tournament.

As far as players missing school I would think its not that big of a deal because only 5 guys miss school for a golf matches, while over 50 would miss if it was for the football team. Plus, golf is the only sport that you can't play under darkness.

[BuckNut2006]

I would agree that Cloverleaf High has the nicest home course. They have exclusive use of the Westfield Country Club for all their home matches for both boys and girls golf. It is as nice as Muirfield Village, and I understand team members get to use it during the offseason as well. Parker Hewit plays for Cloverleaf, and he finished 15th at the PGA Jr. Championship this year.

Westfield's facilities take a back seat to no course in Ohio. Both courses are nice and maintained perfectly. However I will take exception that Westfield's layout and difficulty are on par with Muirefield, Double Eagle, etc. No way.

Cloverleaf High School is lucky to have such a great home course.

[cincygolfer1234]

Double Eagle is known as the second best manicured course in the world, second only to Augusta National.

[TheEture]

Mason plays at Four Bridges

[cincygolfer1234]

Four Bridges isn't that great of a course.

[FormerWildcat]

Have any of you played at the Heritage Golf Club in Hilliard? It's been a number of years since I've played there, and I believe it is the home course for Hilliard Davidson & Hilliard Darby. (I know it's Davidson's home course, but I'm not sure if it's Darby's as well.)

[moefan13]

Camargo is by far better than Westfield. I don't even know why we are having this discussion. Lets put it this way, there are a handful of golf courses in the state of ohio that even come close to cracking the top 100 in world rankings by most publications. Camargo, Muirfield, The Golf Club, Inverness, Scioto.....umm yea, thats about it. Most people dont even know where Camargo is, much less ever been on the course. No it isnt long by today's standards and Tiger would prob shoot 61 or 62 every time he played it, but for us mortals, it will be one of the stiffest tests of golf you'll ever had. The greens are the size of football fields and they might as well be glass, because they are FAST. Now, i may be biased, but i did caddy there for 10 years as a kid. If you look at the Amateur scores each year...they never go lower than about 4 under. The greens are just that tough.

So if we are talking high school golf courses (which i believe is what this thread is about) then Indian Hill wins (so does Madeira) because they play ALL of their home matches at Camargo. Upper Arlington does hold tournaments at Scioto and Muirfield, but thats only one event, it isnt their "home" course.

[JFK-Golf-08]

henry, id have to agree with you about mansfield country club.. i've played in the junior series tournament there this past summer.. its a terrific course, especially for high school golf..

[stangs08]

camargo hands down