2007 Cincy's Finest AAU

[The Finest Factor]

2006 AAU National Champion Cincinnati's Finest will be expanding. We will field teams at the U14 and U15 year old levels as well as the 16/17 for the upcoming season.

If you want your child's skills to go to the next level, if you want to be a part of a first class organization, with proven success and one of the best, most experienced coaching staffs in the country send me a PM.

Tryout dates will be determined as a result of how local teams perform in the state tournament.

Accomplishments for 2006 include :

* 2006 U15 AAU National Champs
* 2006 U16 Adidas showtime Elite division National Runner ups
* 2006 U15 Ohio State Champions
* 2006 U15 Tennessee Miracle Tournament Champion
* 2006 U15 Nike Midwest Showdown Runner ups

The U15 and U16 teams will practice together and the elite U14 team will serve as a feeder system to our elite u15 and u 16 teams.

Imagine your child getting better practicing and playing with the majority of the elite players in the Cincinnati Area.

Team Family members include :

Amber Gray Lakota West
Brianna Sanders Princeton
Jesse Pachko Oak Hills
Amanda Keehan Oak Hills
Courtney Lumpkin Winton Woods
Tiera Stephen Chaminade Julienne
Channing Hillman Mount Notre Dame
Ashley Fowler Mount Notre Dame
Alexis Hunley Sycamore
Meredith Fox Springboro
Jasmine Davis Hughes
Taylor Stanton Walnut Hills
Ashley Hite Summit
Phylesha Bullard Walnut
Desirae Ball Ursuline Academy
Shelby Kissel MND
Arica Johnson Clark Montessori
Mia Williams Lakota Ridge
Terran Murphy Winton Woods

There are a few more elite names to add, negotiations are under way :shrug: lol

If you want to be the best, you have to play with the best.

[The Finest Factor]

Maria Bennett, Alexis Rodgers, Gabby Smith it's still time, We can still talk.

[greatest1]

Maria Bennett, Alexis Rodgers, Gabby Smith it's still time, We can still talk.

Since no one else has the balls to say anything i will. Steve i like you as a person we play ball together but what you are doing is wrong. you know my number and how to reach me. If you have something to say be a man and pick up a phone. I know exactlly what you are trying to do.

[uk2uc]

Since no one else has the balls to say anything i will. Steve i like you as a person we play ball together but what you are doing is wrong. you know my number and how to reach me. If you have something to say be a man and pick up a phone. I know exactlly what you are trying to do.

Greatest1 what do you believe The Finest Factor is trying to do? Seems to me he is just using his winning team to get players for his younger teams. Maybe he is not being successful doing it like most coaches - have a tryout or going to games and watching kids play.

Junkie mentions some great points. The kids on the Finest Championship team Brianna S., Amber G, T. Stephens to name a few are kids who are born with talent that can not be taught. I have enjoyed watching these kids play on their high school and AAU team. For AAU, however, only a core group of kids get to play. They have many that sit on the bench and never get in. For example, the Hunley kid from Sycamore. I think this kid is a true example of what Junkie is saying. She is lost in the "shuffle" of all this talent.

Good luck to the Finest. However, I do hear Smith, Rodgers are playing together all ready on Tom Jenkins team.

[southwest]

:clap: I hope you don't sincerely believe that. More importantly, I hope nobody else believes it.

If you want to be the best, you better first off be born with a ton of natural physical gifts. You know, like size and speed, stuff that can't be taught. You can't teach speed or height.

After that, you better work the hardest. You can work just as hard on a weak team as on a strong one. In fact, sometimes those situations will make the work pay off more in the long run.

Finally, if you want to get lost in the shuffle, by all means, join a superstar team, where there aren't enough balls to go around. Just don't forget your checkbook.:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

aau parents read this carefully !!!! natural gifts !

[INtheShadows]

This is just another Sleezy business deal going down.

You can't tell me for one minute that you are not directing this thread towards specific players.

Don't do this publicly. Call them up if you want to try to steal them from your competitors. Class act!!!!!!!!! Not.

[The Finest Factor]

Woooooooooow. :confused: I did not mean to ruffle everyone's feathers.

Greatest1, I have no idea who you are, but believe me if I were trying to do something to you I would not call you I would say it to your face. NONE OF THIS IS EVER PERSONAL WITH ME. Please tell me what I am trying to do, since you know so well. Be a man don't beat around the bush, say it, say it, say it.

Just so you all know, I am not, or never have tried to steal anyone's kids. If I hear a kid is not happy where they are playing or looking to change I just present the kid with another option. Is there anything wrong with that ? Once a kid tells me they are playing with whoever I wish them luck and move on. If you do not believe me ask the kids or their parents.

Junkie , where does this bring the checkbook stuff come from. I do not make one dime doing this AAU stuff. As a matter of fact I can GUARANTEE you since I have been doing this we charge FAR less than anyone in OHIO AND WE GIVE OUR KIDS FAR MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE. (even before we were sponsored).

Also uc2uk I hope you are kidding when you say kids like Bri, Amber, and Tiera cannot be taught. You must have no idea in what it takes to be a talented basketball player. You think people are just born as players? Are you kidding me ? You have no idea how many hours I have spent in the gym with Bri. I can say the same for the thing for Amber, Tiera, and the the other players on our team because I see them work. Courtney Lumpkin is the perfect example of how working on your game can raise your level of play. I can recall Tiera and her dad getting up at 6 in the morning and going to the gym during nationals to work on her shot. I have seen Amber on countless occassions go thru hard workouts with her father BEFORE our AAU practices. For those of you who do not know we have very hard AAU practices.

Anyway let me sum this up because I have said way to much. The one thing I pride myself and my team on is doing things the right way. I believe there is no substitution for hard work and I tell my kids this all the time. I have watched just as many games as any of you, I have had tryoutouts just like everyone else, but I think what seperates Cincy' Finest from the other teams is how hard we work. Remember this team was built from the ground up. When we first started no one knew who Jesse Pachko was, No one was talking about Courtney, Ashley, Channing, or even Brianna.

Listing the kids names was more of a celebration as to how we are branching out and expanding, not anything else.

If I offended anyone or if anyone has misunderstood what I have said, my fault.

Every please have a nice day, and stay out of the cold:soapbox:

[uk2uc]

Also uc2uk I hope you are kidding when you say kids like Bri, Amber, and Tiera cannot be taught. You must have no idea in what it takes to be a talented basketball player. You think people are just born as players? Are you kidding me ? You have no idea how many hours I have spent in the gym with Bri. I can say the same for the thing for Amber, Tiera, and the the other players on our team because I see them work. Courtney Lumpkin is the perfect example of how working on your game can raise your level of play. I can recall Tiera and her dad getting up at 6 in the morning and going to the gym during nationals to work on her shot. I have seen Amber on countless occassions go thru hard workouts with her father BEFORE our AAU practices. For those of you who do not know we have very hard AAU practices.


Finest Factor you may be too fired up at Greatest 1 to understand what and others wrote. Bri, Amber & Tiera are some great players who possess talents and skills that can not be taught. They are BORN with it. This is what seperates them from others. Courtney Lumpkin had to work on her game because she was not born with a lot of these attributes others have. She has improved her game and become a very good player. However, most players are just like her. Work on their game to hopefully become a great player. I have seen all these girls work out and I know they work very hard to improve their overall games. However, you can't deny even your daughter has natural abilities that she was born with. They just possess talents that other just have to work twice as hard at and they may never get to that level of greatness. Just the way the world works some kids are more talented to others.

[WindyCity]

I hope you don't sincerely believe that. More importantly, I hope nobody else believes it.

If you want to be the best, you better first off be born with a ton of natural physical gifts. You know, like size and speed, stuff that can't be taught. You can't teach speed or height.

After that, you better work the hardest. You can work just as hard on a weak team as on a strong one. In fact, sometimes those situations will make the work pay off more in the long run.

Finally, if you want to get lost in the shuffle, by all means, join a superstar team, where there aren't enough balls to go around. Just don't forget your checkbook.


Junkie is just upset because he can get the right kids for his AAU program. He hopes if he discredits someone elses program the kids will fall his way.

He is also trying to say that only kids with height and speed can play basketball. So parents of kids that cant run fast or stand tall, dont have your kids join an AAU program, they are never going to be good at basketball.

[The Finest Factor]

Just when I thought I was done with this, here is a message from Tom Jenkins in response to the notion that he is putting an AAU team together.

Folks:

It has come to my attention that many folks (parents of players) are acting under the impression that I am assembling an AAU team. MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT , I HAVE NO DIRECT INVOLVEMENT WITH ANY AAU TEAM OR ORGANIZATION NOR AM I ASSEMBLING A PARTICULAR TEAM. I help do many things for mant aau teams and organizations all across the state of ohio. I help secure sponsorships, help secure reduced or waived entry fees for tournaments, provide player contact information for aau coaches, provide championship t-shirts, provide aau team and aau coach contact information in the sophmore and freshman issue of my scouting service in February and May of each year, send out roster and schedule packet to college coaches in March for the aau season, and send out aau tryout information to player's parents for aau teams all over the state. I have done one or more of these tasks for the last two years for Steve Sanders' Cincy's Finest, Jay Bee's All-Ohio, John Coffee's Dayton Lady Hoopstars, Marwan Miller's Ohio Legends, Iris Young's Columbus Lady Flames, Andre Gault's SMAC Lady Ballers, Andy Fishman's Hardwood Heat, Rob Steven's V-Speed, Marc Snowberger's NEO Swish, The Cincinnati Royals and Ohio Express. Should anyone personnally want to speak with me about the extent of my AAU involvement, please do not hesitate to contact me at 330-276-0098. Thanks for allowing me to clarify this situation and I look forward to seeing all of you in the spring/summer season.

Tom Jenkins
Ohio Girls Basketball Report

P.S.
My Thanks to Steve Sanders for posting this memo in clarifying this issue.

[The Finest Factor]

uc2uk I have two daughters, Brianna and Tanisha. They both have tried basketball, Brianna can play and Tanisha couldn't hit a cow with a milk carton, or she couldn't hit water from the beach. The fact of the matter is Brianna put in far more work and therefore is a better player. In my eyes there is no such thing as a "natural". If you do not work on your game you will not be an elite player. Everyone who plays the game has skills that has been taught or learned. When Brianna was born she couldn't dribble with her left hand or with her head up, and she didn't know how to pass. Those skills were learned thru hard work.