Who would be joining the Suburban League America division
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The best and easiest solution to all of this would be to bring Medina, Brunswick and Strongsville in. That is the smartest move. But these high school AD's sometimes don't think logic. So things will get drawn out, get muddy people will point fingers...and at the end of the day the only people to blame are the SL AD's. Just do it....bring in these 3....drop down 3 nationals to the American..and move on...actually the league is better if this happens
I've heard North Royalton in this big school division as well, that would make it 8.
BlackandGold
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Not sure this makes a whole lot of sense for Mayfield. I’d think we’d more likely see them stay local and bunch with North, South, Heights, and Shaker.
bwickbluedevils
Member
I agree this makes the most sense. Brunswick, Medina and Strongsville are more in the SL foot print then Bedford, Mayfield or Kenston. Also a handful of SL schools have already played them in football and other sports. Once again this makes the most sense.
MentorGrad2002
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Heights and Shaker teaming with North and South isn't likely ..
If the wrc loses Mayfield and kenston somehow, they won't be in a position of strength to add schools. In fact if the GCC lost only one, I could see them adding Riverside to get back to 8
MentorGrad2002
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Brunswick is a huge school. Why would you want them to run to a league of D2 and D3 schools? Would be better to improve with your big enrollment and play D1 schools
raising4daughters
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Hate seeing Brecksville and NoRo split. Guess they could still play OOC games for the Golden Shoe, but that just wouldn't be the same.
bwickbluedevils
Member
The reason I want Brunswick in the SL is because I have a gut feeling that Medina will be one of the three replacement schools. This will be the third time since the NOC disbanded that the SL will probably be in talks with Medina about joining. Third time is the charm and that would be the feather in the cap for SL to get Medina... Then there's Strongsville. If Medina leaves I could see SWC trying to poach Strongsville to boost their membership in the chance one of there smaller schools decides to leave. So that would leave Brunswick without a natural rival in the GCC and the closest GCC member would be Lorain. So yes, I would rather have all three schools in SL and still be able to play Medina and Strongsville every year...Also by going to SL, Brunswick and Wadsworth can start their rivalry back up again and if Highland switchs to the National that would give Brunswick two more rivalry games a year...My final reason would be most of the old Pioneer Conference is in the SL and I care a little more when NoRo, Brecksville or Wadsworth plays Brunswick in basketball or most any sports because I played against those schools or had cousins that played for those schools. I have no real connection with Euclid, Heights, Mentor, Shaker or Lorain.
So it's not based on school size? Nordonia is smaller than Brecksville and Twinsburg.
Looks decent. Solon is the largest in the National now, they were just D1 2 years ago.
raising4daughters
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What's the point/purpose of having a two-division conference that spans such a wide geography as well as crossing D1 to D3 in football and presumably other sports? I follow two of the mid-sized schools that could go either way, so no real dog in this fight but why would Revere and Copley want play in conference with 4-5 likely losses every season (adding Solon, Nordonia, Twinsburg, and Solon to Highland and Aurora). I could easily see Revere and Copley looking for a new home, perhaps with smaller schools like Midview and/or those in the CWC (Bay, River, Buckeye). If you're going to play bigger schools, better for Revere and Copley to play Normandy, VF, Westlake, etc. The game of musical conference chairs will go on.
Why not head it off now. Instead of or in addition to adding the 3 D1 schools, go to the CWC and invite them in. Several were in the old NOC which this is starting to resemble anyway. Have an SL East, SL West, and SL Small (D3-D4) with some occasional crossover games. Probably too complicated to actually execute but I see the currently proposed arrangements falling apart in a year, two, or three anyway.
Why not head it off now. Instead of or in addition to adding the 3 D1 schools, go to the CWC and invite them in. Several were in the old NOC which this is starting to resemble anyway. Have an SL East, SL West, and SL Small (D3-D4) with some occasional crossover games. Probably too complicated to actually execute but I see the currently proposed arrangements falling apart in a year, two, or three anyway.
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Stow is still bigger.
Stow is largest in National. Not best in football, but largest!
Incorrect. For football purposes, Stow boys enrollment is 566. Solon is 592.Stow is still bigger.
Stow is largest in National. Not best in football, but largest!
Stow is still bigger.
Stow is largest in National. Not best in football, but largest!
NATIONAL
Solon - 592
Stow - 566
Wadsworth - 562
North Royalton - 554
Hudson - 497
Brecksville - 456
Twinsburg - 431
Nordonia - 430
AMERICAN
Highland - 432
Barberton - 417
Cuyahoga Falls - 415
Aurora - 368
Revere - 353
Kent - 325
Copley - 312
Tallmadge - 298
I believe these numbers hold thru the end of the 2025 football season before it is re-calculated.
DaveDawg
The Bulldog
FOOTBALL ONLY!
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Chip Kelly former head coach at UCLA and now offensive coordinator at Ohio State has said about the college football geographic expansion that conferences should play in the expanded footprint for football only leaving the other sports to remain as they were in the conferences they called home because it is football that is driving the dollar and supporting the funds and TV revenue of course.
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The idea here is very much the same, why not combine the Suburban and Federal League teams along with a couple Stark County independents and figure out a three or four or even five team league similar to the Ohio Capital Conference and juggle the divisions every few years to align with the proper enrollment
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Here’s the schools off the top of my head -
McKinley - 893
GlenOak - 752
Jackson -701
Solon - 592
Stow - 566
Wadsworth - 562
North Royalton - 554
Perry - 530
Hoover - 521
Green - 500
Hudson - 497
Massillon - 469
Brecksville B’view - 456
Twinsburg - 431
Nordonia - 430
Highland - 432
Barberton - 417
Cuyahoga Falls - 415
Lake - 404
Louisville - 370
Aurora - 368
Revere - 353
Kent - 325
Copley - 312
Tallmadge - 298
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The way Northeast Ohio conferences are changing so often, why not get ahead of the curve and do the accommodating to satisfy unhappy schools in house
Official - Medina, Mayfield and Kenston to Suburban league.
National - Solon, Medina, Highland, Stow, Hudson, North Royalton and Wadsworth
American - Copley, Revere, Barberton, Mayfield, Kenston and Aurora.
Brecksville, Twinsburg and Nordonia would be mixed between the 2 divisions based on each sports competitiveness.
National - Solon, Medina, Highland, Stow, Hudson, North Royalton and Wadsworth
American - Copley, Revere, Barberton, Mayfield, Kenston and Aurora.
Brecksville, Twinsburg and Nordonia would be mixed between the 2 divisions based on each sports competitiveness.
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Yappi
Go Buckeyes
Looks like a good move for the SL. Moving Highland to the bigger division was important as they had outgrown the SLA competitively. Not sure but I would guess they were in the top half of the league in every sport.
The glaring issue for the SL is the geography. Having the big empty area in Akron means some long trips for school members. Too bad there is no way to bring in the Akron schools to cut down on travel time in the non-revenue sports.
The glaring issue for the SL is the geography. Having the big empty area in Akron means some long trips for school members. Too bad there is no way to bring in the Akron schools to cut down on travel time in the non-revenue sports.
reganaustinjames
Well-known member
This is not official yet; it's still pending approvals (though it is very likely to happen). Nothing's official until you see a press release. Also, given this writer's lackadaisal research (re: Kenston and Mayfield's conference past), it'd take what he says with a couple grains of salt
clarkgriswold
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Medina, Kenston, Mayfield high schools set to join Suburban League
As Kent Roosevelt, Cuyahoga Falls and Tallmadge high schools exit the Suburban League, the conference has extended invitations to three new schools.
www.beaconjournal.com
MentorGrad2002
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It's definitely official. The GCC already heard from Medina today
Mr. Red Raider
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Bumping this because I was at a basketball game between Aurora and Streetsboro and one of the Aurora gentlemen stated that Streetsboro is potentially joining the Suburban in 2026. Take this with a grain of salt. Will definitely confirm for sure.
Yappi
Go Buckeyes
I think it would be a mistake for Streetsboro to move to the SLA. Maybe the community is growing but I see them as a little weaker in sports than Tallmadge.
I guess I can see it if it is primarily a football move. Streetsboro has been trending up but i think they might be hurting their overall sports program because they would be similar to Tallmadge. Compete in a couple sports and struggle to get 4th or 5th place in most of the other sports.
I guess I can see it if it is primarily a football move. Streetsboro has been trending up but i think they might be hurting their overall sports program because they would be similar to Tallmadge. Compete in a couple sports and struggle to get 4th or 5th place in most of the other sports.
With Streetsboro being D4 this is highly unlikely
reganaustinjames
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Unless someone is leaving the SL, I don't buy this for a second. As of now with the three recent additions, the SL is at 16, so there is no room. Also, Streetsboro is D4 and would be the smallest school in the league by a considerable margin. And while the geographic fit would definitely be there, Streetsboro is already in a soon-to-be 10-team league where they are right in the center of enrollment, are competitive on the field, and are geographically close to many of their league mates. I don't see how this move would be good for anyone.
Kenston will be the smallest school by a large margin,amd is declining every year,and Streetsboro is smaller yet.im not so sure Kenston will be in the suburban league long,we will probably be D4 in the next couple years
topperbounce
Defend the Hill
Let’s hope Chardon and Kenston play a non-conference game moving forward. I think they will. There’s no reason not to. Keep the rivalry going.
It also eliminates having to hunt down a non-conference opponent to play every season. Which is becoming more and more difficult for both programs, especially Chardon because we refuse to play local parochials.