psycho_dad
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That's enough
! Give it a rest.This needs to stop. The postponing is not doing any good. Even OHSAA is putting it on Dewine in their tweets. He is listening to the experts advice and putting it into motion. I think Snodgrass and OHSAA do not want to take the brunt of the decisions and are playing the blame game and its still allowing kids to congregate together with a false hope.
THE OHSAA IS TALKING AND PLANNING ABOUT FALL SPORTS RIGHT NOW, KNOWING THAT THIS CAN EFFECT THEIR REGULAR SEASON.
Their decision is causing athletes to come together. It is causing it and would be happening ALOT less if they just said it was over, which is going to happen. You know that.! Give it a rest.
If the approrpriate time comes to cancel the sports season, then I can accept that. The OHSAA is not encouraging kids to congregate in large groups. There is no prize for ending the season prematurely. It is not a decision to be made lightly because once it's made, there's no going back on it if the situation should change for the better.
Also, let's say we come back May 1st. Who is on Varsity for the postseason? What does it say to JV that your season is done (no season) but varsity is allowed a season. That does not sound like a team oriented program where everyone is important and has a role to play in the sport...which is what high school sports is all about.
Sorry for all the comments but when I still see old people, high school athletes, parents still not abiding by the guidelines for the well-being of others, it is very concerning and is putting the health of others in danger. This postponement is enabling that.
Sorry for all the comments but when I still see old people, high school athletes, parents still not abiding by the guidelines for the well-being of others, it is very concerning and is putting the health of others in danger. This postponement is enabling that.
Sunday when it was warm there were easily a hundred people - not an exaggeration - on the trail system near my house. Any number of those people were stopped, chatting, within 2-3 feet of each other.
What is this going to do to public schools funding? This year could be a big hit for taxes. How many years down the road will this hit? Sports programs will be the first to suffer. More pay to play? Will it be as soon as next school year?
More and more schools are passing income tax issues instead of constantly asking to renew/replace property taxes.Why would tax income go down for schools?
You lost me there. Why would tax income go down for schools? Are my property taxes going lower for some reason? I missed that completely.
Are all teachers getting paid? How are phys ed teachers working? Are bus drivers and custodians laid off? If they are, then the schools are saving money. If they aren't laid off, why not? What are administrators and secretaries doing while the schools closed?
I do not know a lot about exactly how public schools are completely funded, but I think that property taxes are a small fraction. It is my understanding that property taxes make up about 15% The lottery 15% State General fund 70% There are also Federal dollars. It is also my understanding that only about 50% of property taxes goes to schools. Each school district gets funded by different percentages by the state. A school district like Woodridge is almost 100% property taxes and Levy dollars, but Cleveland City Schools has very low property tax funding.
This would be something nice to hear from an expert because I'm not even 5% sure.
Please do not take this as a criticism but as the question it is intended.
I hear on tv, read in papers, and even people on here stating that people are not following distancing suggestions. What are they doing? They can't go to restaurants or bars? Are they hosting parties? And for those criticising how do you know if you are not at the same place doing it also?
I have left the house once per day over the past three weeks to walk-jog alone and have yet to see another person. I have not gone anywhere else and may be out of the loop.
With regard to your 1st paragraph, the income tax rate isn't going down, but peoples' total incomes are being affected by this situation, which in turn, affects how much money is collected via income tax. Your property taxes are what they are. That's not going to change until either the next time a levy comes up or your property value is re-assessed. The state's primary sources of funding are: state sales tax (most counties have voter-approved piggy-back rates on their sales tax for various purposes), state income tax, Federal funds, and various fees (ex. license plate registration, driver's license, etc). If many people are not working, there will be less money spent which hurts sales tax collection. Even if all other forms of consumption remain the same, the state is probably taking a hit right now from the lack of taxes collected when people dine in at a restaurant or have a drink at the bar (the bar will usually already have the tax rate built into the price of the drink). State income tax collection will likely take a hit as well. DeWine has already instituted a hiring freeze for state employees and has instructed his cabinet members to look for ways to cut as much as 20% from their respective departments' budgets for next year, although he admitted in his presser today that some departments will not be able to cut that much from their budget and that certain departmental expenditures are unavoidable.You lost me there. Why would tax income go down for schools? Are my property taxes going lower for some reason? I missed that completely.
Are all teachers getting paid? How are phys ed teachers working? Are bus drivers and custodians laid off? If they are, then the schools are saving money. If they aren't laid off, why not? What are administrators and secretaries doing while the schools closed?
I would hope teachers are still being paid since they are currently expected to be providing learning material for their students. I would also assume that they would be paid due to be salary.Are all teachers getting paid?... ... What are administrators and secretaries doing while the schools closed?
I respectfully disagree. Acton actually admitted she does not have enough data. Ohio has not tested enough for whatever reason. They are not doing the epidemiology (again her admission). Big decisions need to be made by facts. In the last four days we have hovered around 300 to 248 new cases per day. We may be peaking in Ohio right now. Honestly, if after self quarantining for almost four weeks, we average 6K to 8k new cases per day (Acton's numbers) then the quarantining was useless. However, if it worked and we slowed things down, hang for another couple weeks, start unwinding things, then we can start getting back to normal. The beginning of May seems reasonable to me. If we shut down our economy for three months and people start missing payments, the financial institutions start to falter, your are going to have really big problems... like problems that will make the big recession seem tame in comparison. No government can print enough money to keep an economy going if there is so much cash that inflation is out of control. Companies are already admitting that they are not coming back after this.Also this is NOT going to peak until mid May. Any current statistic about icu’s is irrelevant. That stat is going to increase exponentially over the next few weeks. My wife is in the medical field and they are freaking out right now when it happens. They’ve had numerous meetings about it to prepare but I’m expecting not to see her at home for at least 2-3 weeks when it happens.
I respectfully disagree. Acton actually admitted she does not have enough data. Ohio has not tested enough for whatever reason. They are not doing the epidemiology (again her admission). Big decisions need to be made by facts. In the last four days we have hovered around 300 to 248 new cases per day. We may be peaking in Ohio right now. Honestly, if after self quarantining for almost four weeks, we average 6K to 8k new cases per day (Acton's numbers) then the quarantining was useless. However, if it worked and we slowed things down, hang for another couple weeks, start unwinding things, then we can start getting back to normal. The beginning of May seems reasonable to me. If we shut down our economy for three months and people start missing payments, the financial institutions start to falter, your are going to have really big problems... like problems that will make the big recession seem tame in comparison. No government can print enough money to keep an economy going if there is so much cash that inflation is out of control. Companies are already admitting that they are not coming back after this.