I am hoping someone can explain to me why we are impeaching a private citizen first.Can somebody explain "impeachment as disenfranchisement of Trump voters" argument? I mean, he's not president regardless of the outcome of the impeachment trial.
I am hoping someone can explain to me why we are impeaching a private citizen first.
Well, the Dems can't control the process or narrative if they did this in a criminal court.Impeachment is a political process for The President. The courts should handle any illegal activity by a former President.
If it was "that important" then the Senate should have hung around.This is the trial, the impeachment already happened. There's a trial in the Senate for a private citizen for two reasons:
1) The Senate adjourned and would not reconvene to receive the Articles until post inauguration.
2) The trial is about actions taken while the private citizen was President.
It's moot since the Senate just voted it to be constitutional.
If it was "that important" then the Senate should have hung around.
I don't believe the Senate has the authority to determine if anything is constitutional. That's why we have a Supreme Court. They just voted because they want to go forward with it and feel like they are entitled to make that decision.It's moot since the Senate just voted it to be constitutional.
I don't believe the Senate has the authority to determine if anything is constitutional. That's why we have a Supreme Court. They just voted because they want to go forward with it and feel like they are entitled to make that decision.
You are the Yappi irony champion.You seem to be in the crazy bubble.
Its nothing. But the left wasting time instead of implementing their agenda isnt all bad.The republican’s are not going to vote for any type of punishment for Trump. It’s laughable to think anything other than a handful of them would dare cross Trump.
By doing this Trump will face some type of sanction for his actions. He will be the only twice impeached president and be forced to defend himself. It’s not much but it’s a something.
You ever think those people left due to the actions of the Republicans?Explain the 10,000 Republicans who have left the Republican Party since the election in Arizona. If it’s happening there, it’s happening everywhere. Trump’s behavior since the election has been the final straw for a lot of people. He doesn’t have 75 million supporters any more.
Everybody already saw what happened at the Capitol. That doesnt prove anything regarding the question at hand."All of America will see it": Democrats plan to use video, audio for Trump trial
House managers "are going to show the American people — vividly, on film — what happened there in the Capitol." Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said.www.axios.com
Is that like the airtight evidence Russia stole the 2016 election?It seems like trumps legal team is arguing he cannot be impeached because he is no longer in office while also arguing that he should be in office because the election was stolen so the violence (while not his fault) was justified.
Impeachment manager fleshes out case against Trump
https://www.axios.com/authors/kgoba/
Rep. Jamie Raskin as House managers delivered their impeachment article. Photo: Melina Mara/Pool/AFP via Getty Images
The Democrats' lead impeachment manager said Wednesday former President Trump's role in inciting the Capitol siege was the "worst presidential offense in the history of the republic," and the evidence against him is "airtight."
Why it matters: While Democrats say there is a direct cause and effect between Trump addressing a crowd of supporters that later broke into the Capitol on Jan. 6, some Republicans have fallen back on procedural defenses. The impeachment managers hope specific, graphic and voluminous evidence will create public pressure to convict the former president.
During a call Wednesday morning with the House Democratic caucus, lead impeachment manger Rep. Jamie Raskin detailed previously unreported injuries to Capitol Police officers, the damaging global view of the insurrection and tried to proactively puncture holes in the defense Trump will mount when his trial begins next week.
What we're hearing: Raskin also told House Democrats the impeachment managers received an “embarrassingly thin” response from president’s counsel on Tuesday.
- Raskin (D-Md.) told his colleagues one Capitol Police officer has lost three fingers and another is likely to lose an eye.
- He said extremist elements in Russia and Germany view the storming of the Capitol as great victory for 21st century fascism.
Raskin said that argument has been “decisively rejected” by Senate, previously — most famously — in 1876 against the war secretary William Belknap.
- Trump's legal team argues he can't be convicted since the First Amendment protects his speech. They, along with some Republican senators, also argue a president can't be tried after leaving office.
The bottom line: Raskin summarized the impeachment managers' argument by saying, "This wasn’t shouting fire in a crowded theater; this was the fire chief sending a mob to the theater."
- “This moment was totally foreseen by the framers of the Constitution," Raskin said on the caucus call.
- "Trump may not know anything about the Founders, but they knew a lot about the likes of him," he added.
Under false pretense.Trump was impeached while still in office. The dem’s are simply finishing the legal process required.
Trump had been setting the stage for the assault on the Capitol for months before it happened with his incendiary claims and language about a stolen election and his sympathetic comments about groups like Proud Boys and QanonIs that like the airtight evidence Russia stole the 2016 election?
There is no direct cause and effect. What happened at the Capitol was preplanned, not based on the speech. And they didnt later break into the Capitol, it happened while he was speaking which did not occur at the Capitol.
By Bidens own standard hes a dictator...I'd say that's pretty bad.First. Biden is only a few weeks in to his 1/2 term and he is looking pretty awful. Give him a chance to be the worst.
Second. If trump broke the law try him in an actual court not your kangaroo version in the senate. I would support that. But pulling this stunt now is just pure politics. Smart people know this. I can see how you got confused though.
Third. Trump moved out of the white house. Try letting him move out of that melon of yours.
Everyday is a bad day for you, because Trump is shortning your life, with the stress on youBad day for trump and the GOP....defending the indefensible while ignoring the basics of the Constitution. The GOP is an embarrassment.....a handful have courage but most just ducking head in sand and hoping this passes us by.
Just watch the video...
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Everyday is a bad day for you, because Trump is shortning your life, with the stress on you
Check your blood pressure, it is going upTrumps MAGA attacked our capitol with trump banners and flags. defending the indefensible. THE LOWEST DAY OF OUR DEMOCRACY in my life...by a long shot. Makes Watergate look like a joke. No Case No Defense....even GOP is jumping ship.
Trumps MAGA attacked our capitol with trump banners and flags. defending the indefensible. THE LOWEST DAY OF OUR DEMOCRACY in my life...by a long shot. Makes Watergate look like a joke. No Case No Defense....even GOP is jumping ship.
So we can impeach Obama? And FDR? And Wilson?"the Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments"
The Senate controls the rules of any impeachment trial. Constitutionality is what they voted on today.
That is just not remotely true...there were some nutjobs that are just anarchysts, but majority were trump supporters wearing trump gear and they are testifying in court docs that trump summoned them to capitol to stop the steal.
Trumps MAGA chitheads our capitol with trump banners and flags.