top ten greater cincinnati? (records)

Lancermania said:
Yes, I have them tied for 9th on the all time list with this time. The list is on page 21. Their time at that meet was actually 1:28.66 which I converted to FAT by adding 0.24 to the time.
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thanks mate, missed it when i skimmed the last couple of pages.
 
Michael Perry of Winton Woods moves into 5th place on the 3200 list with his 4th place finish at the Midwest Meet of Champions.

Time Year Name School Location/Place
1 8:54.90 2000 Steve Padgett LaSalle Golden West Invitational 3rd
2 9:03.25 1994 Doug Bockenstette LaSalle Midwest MOC 1st
3 9:04.74 1995 Dean Fulmer LaSalle Nike Outdoor Nationals 6th
4 9:05.33 2002 Allen Bader LaSalle Roosevelt 3rd
5 9:07.25 2007 Michael Perry Winton Woods Midwest Meet Champions 4th
6 9:11.64 1969 Reggie McAfee Courter Tech Ohio Track Classic 1st
7 9:12.04 1970 Dennis Lunne St. Xavier Miami Relays 1st
8 9:12.54 1999 Brian Godsey Lakota East Regional 2nd
9 9:15.44 1973 Dave Stanton Princeton Regional 2nd
10 9:16.13 2002 John Dixon Fairfield Roosevelt 5th
 
Is it time for SLIMS to put together the steeplechase list? I know only Roosevelt and NON results will make up the list, but I bet the top 10 are all sub 6:20...
 
Seek Up said:
Is it time for SLIMS to put together the steeplechase list? I know only Roosevelt and NON results will make up the list, but I bet the top 10 are all sub 6:20...
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My gut hunch is that you won't be able to get close to ten guys sub 6:20. I'm going to pick a lucky seven under 6:20.
 
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Lancermania said:
Yes, I have them tied for 9th on the all time list with this time. The list is on page 21. Their time at that meet was actually 1:28.66 which I converted to FAT by adding 0.24 to the time.
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When I googled for conversion standards, I read that only the 100 and 200m used 0.24 as the conversion and that the 300 and 400m races used 0.14. I believe the reference was some T&F 'big green book'. And there was an upper limit beyond which no conversion was added. I'm not sure what that distance cutoff is though. The 4x200 is an 800m race, so would it make sense that the 0.14 conversion should be used?
 
Lancermania said:
Michael Perry of Winton Woods moves into 5th place on the 3200 list with his 4th place finish at the Midwest Meet of Champions.

Time Year Name School Location/Place
1 8:54.90 2000 Steve Padgett LaSalle Golden West Invitational 3rd
2 9:03.25 1994 Doug Bockenstette LaSalle Midwest MOC 1st
3 9:04.74 1995 Dean Fulmer LaSalle Nike Outdoor Nationals 6th
4 9:05.33 2002 Allen Bader LaSalle Roosevelt 3rd
5 9:07.25 2007 Michael Perry Winton Woods Midwest Meet Champions 4th
6 9:11.64 1969 Reggie McAfee Courter Tech Ohio Track Classic 1st
7 9:12.04 1970 Dennis Lunne St. Xavier Miami Relays 1st
8 9:12.54 1999 Brian Godsey Lakota East Regional 2nd
9 9:15.44 1973 Dave Stanton Princeton Regional 2nd
10 9:16.13 2002 John Dixon Fairfield Roosevelt 5th
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Is the golden west invitational the best meet in the country because I dont understand how you can run 8:54 and come in 3rd?
 
Lancermania said:
Why don't you publish what you think is the top ten so the other SLIMS members can suggest corrections.
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Why do I suspect that Lancermania already has the list...

1. 6:04.72, Michael Perry, Winton Woods, NON, 2007, 5th
2. 6:08.64, Shawn Proffitt, Anderson, Junior Olympics, 1988, 1st?
3. 6:11.98, Matt Winebar, Kings, NON, 2005, 10th
4. 6:14.72, Bill Keckeis, LaSalle, NON, 2004, 8th
5. 6:16.00, Kyle Lang, LaSalle, Roosevelt, 2006, 1st
6. 6:16.53, Andy Wietmarschen, St. Xavier, Roosevelt, 2001, 1st
7. 6:18.74, Dan Fritz, St. Xavier, Roosevelt, 1999, 1st
8. 6:23.64, Justin Hussel, Colerain, Roosevelt, 1999, 2nd
9. 6:26.34, Jacob (or Jason*) Porter, Princeton, Roosevelt, 1998, 1st
10. 6:27.90, Garrett Grogan, LaSalle, Roosevelt, 2001, 2nd

* - he was listed as Jacob in 1998 and Jason in 1999; any help out there?
 
Hmm very nice list and my name is spelled correctly - that doesn't happen often.

2.10m or 6-10.25 is/was the qualifying height for USATF juniors. I remember talking with Jon Lange about this before either of us cleared it that year.

Wasn't Jon's older brother Tom a 7ft guy?
 
relee said:
do you have a website that lists all these top 10 lists?
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I am posting for two important reasons. First,I apologize profusely for not answering this request promptly. The lists can be found at "www.trackstatsonline.com". Secondly, these lists have not been updated to include performances from the 2006 or 2007 seasons. This is a call to the original SLIMS posse and anyone else who wants to throw their hat/performance in the ring to assist us in this endeavor. For simplicity's sake, should the current lists be posted on this thread to make things easier? Also, we will be adding the 2000m steeplechase.
 
you brought this up after last season and I pretty much did all the research to update the lists which needed updated with very little imput from anyone else. They should be posted here. I'm against putting on a 2000 meter steeplechase since it is not a standard event at the OHSAA tournament.
 
Seek Up said:
Why do I suspect that Lancermania already has the list...

1. 6:04.72, Michael Perry, Winton Woods, NON, 2007, 5th
2. 6:08.64, Shawn Proffitt, Anderson, Junior Olympics, 1988, 1st?
3. 6:11.98, Matt Winebar, Kings, NON, 2005, 10th
4. 6:14.72, Bill Keckeis, LaSalle, NON, 2004, 8th
5. 6:16.00, Kyle Lang, LaSalle, Roosevelt, 2006, 1st
6. 6:16.53, Andy Wietmarschen, St. Xavier, Roosevelt, 2001, 1st
7. 6:18.74, Dan Fritz, St. Xavier, Roosevelt, 1999, 1st
8. 6:23.64, Justin Hussel, Colerain, Roosevelt, 1999, 2nd
9. 6:26.34, Jacob (or Jason*) Porter, Princeton, Roosevelt, 1998, 1st
10. 6:27.90, Garrett Grogan, LaSalle, Roosevelt, 2001, 2nd

* - he was listed as Jacob in 1998 and Jason in 1999; any help out there?
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Seek i havent been in anderson in about a year but i think his plaque says national champ. (profitt), ill check next time i am there. Did you check Anderson Invite results? I doubt anyone would make it but they do run the event every year.
 
skins99 said:
Seek i havent been in anderson in about a year but i think his plaque says national champ. (profitt), ill check next time i am there. Did you check Anderson Invite results? I doubt anyone would make it but they do run the event every year.
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I was pretty sure he was national champion, but didn't want to assume. Lancermania and I have gone back & forth on this one because the date of the performance falls outside of our rules, so it probably won't make the list in the end. The Anderson Invitational always runs a 3000m steeplechase, so, in theory, a 3000m list could be put together.
 
Also look at what kind of meet it was. It was not a high school meet but an age group meet. He was not representing Anderson high school nor was he wearing an Anderson uniform. The meet was not sanctioned by the National Federation of State High School Athletic Associations. It was a Junior Olympics meet.
 
Seek Up said:
Why do I suspect that Lancermania already has the list...

1. 6:04.72, Michael Perry, Winton Woods, NON, 2007, 5th
2. 6:08.64, Shawn Proffitt, Anderson, Junior Olympics, 1988, 1st?
3. 6:11.98, Matt Winebar, Kings, NON, 2005, 10th
4. 6:14.72, Bill Keckeis, LaSalle, NON, 2004, 8th
5. 6:16.00, Kyle Lang, LaSalle, Roosevelt, 2006, 1st
6. 6:16.53, Andy Wietmarschen, St. Xavier, Roosevelt, 2001, 1st
7. 6:18.74, Dan Fritz, St. Xavier, Roosevelt, 1999, 1st
8. 6:23.64, Justin Hussel, Colerain, Roosevelt, 1999, 2nd
9. 6:26.34, Jacob (or Jason*) Porter, Princeton, Roosevelt, 1998, 1st
10. 6:27.90, Garrett Grogan, LaSalle, Roosevelt, 2001, 2nd

* - he was listed as Jacob in 1998 and Jason in 1999; any help out there?
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Dunno about his name, but he is now in 10th.

3 Brad Meyer 12 Moeller 6:23.43 6

Time is FAT at Roosevelt last year.
 
moemancc said:
Dunno about his name, but he is now in 10th.

3 Brad Meyer 12 Moeller 6:23.43 6

Time is FAT at Roosevelt last year.
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Thanks for the update moemancc. Here is the updated 2000 Steeplechase.

1. 6:04.72, Michael Perry, Winton Woods, NON, 2007, 5th
2. 6:11.98, Matt Winebar, Kings, NON, 2005, 10th
3. 6:14.72, Bill Keckeis, LaSalle, NON, 2004, 8th
4. 6:16.00, Kyle Lang, LaSalle, Roosevelt, 2006, 1st
5. 6:16.53, Andy Wietmarschen, St. Xavier, Roosevelt, 2001, 1st
6. 6:18.74, Dan Fritz, St. Xavier, Roosevelt, 1999, 1st
7. 6:23.43, Brad Meyer, Moeller, Roosevelt, 2007, 3rd
8. 6:23.64, Justin Hussel, Colerain, Roosevelt, 1999, 2nd
9. 6:26.2, Jacob Porter, Princeton, Roosevelt, 1998, 1st
10. 6:27.90, Garrett Grogan, LaSalle, Roosevelt, 2001, 2nd
 
Hey when I was checking the list at track stats, there is one relay, the 4x2 i believe, where there are two of the same team on there with different times. They are the same 4 guys on the relay, so I just thought I'd pass the info along.
 
Thanks Moemancc, you are correct. The same 400 meter relay team from Princeton in 1987 is on there twice. The slowest time will have to come off--state meet time.
 
Lancer you have Chambers from Glen Este as Chambers from Moeller for the coaches classic records.
 
fitz said:
Hmm very nice list and my name is spelled correctly - that doesn't happen often.

2.10m or 6-10.25 is/was the qualifying height for USATF juniors. I remember talking with Jon Lange about this before either of us cleared it that year.

Wasn't Jon's older brother Tom a 7ft guy?
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Hey fitz, what are you up to these days. We could use your help. I made sure your name was spelled correctly, just because I know that can bother people sometimes.
 
berserker, what do you think about adding Middletown to this list. trackstatsonline says the coaches voted to do it. I personally don't feel they belong on it, but wanted your opinion.
 
See I really don't want to because of one reason. They compete at a Dayton district. I mean they do compete in the GMC, but so did Lima for a number of years right?, and no one would say they were a Cinci team. I just feel like we should definitely just include teams who compete at Cinci district events.
 
I think they absolutely belong on the lists. Their affliation is definately with the Cincinnati area as opposed to the Dayton area. The state of Ohio determines the district match-ups, not the school. Comparing with Lima is apples to oranges (way too much geography involved), Middletown to Cincinnati is a Gala apple to Braeburn apple, we are only talking a few miles. I think consideration should be given to Middletown's view of themselves; they see themselves as being with Cincinnati. If they felt differently, I would honor that.
 
Steeple Updates

I was reading some off your discussions on the Steeple Chase that were posted a couple months ago and hopefully I can help clarify some of Shawn Proffitt's times. The 6:08 2000m SC was run in 1987 at the Junior Olympics in Provo, Utah with a 4th place finish, unattached. A 6:11 2000m SC was run in 1988 at the Miami University High School Meet while running for Anderson High School. A 3000m SC was run at the Keebler Invitational in Chicago, IL with a time of 9:36. This is where the National Champion designation comes into play because winners of events at this meet were given medals that stated 'US High School Champion'. Official Results from the meet also have the High School that the individual was from. A 3000m SC was run at the Junior Nationals in Tallahasse, FL in 1988 5th place 9:16. Hope this helps your lists.
 
Actually it was a 36.6 and it was the Mehocks Relays

Seek Up said:
You are absolutely correct. I was going off my memory, and assumed his meet record at Colerain was from his senior year, not junior year. This is why we have a checks and balances system here on Yappi. BTW, I am going to go on a mission to determine where he ran his manually timed 36.7 in 1990.
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Actually it was a 36.6 and it was the Mehocks Relays
 
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