Small handsGrady Mateen didn't crack your Central-Hower Top Five? He was one of the top recruits in the nation, and went to Georgetown...when they were possibly the top program in the nation...before transferring to Ohio State.
For Moeller- Brannen, Monserez, Sylvester, Duncan, Hayes? That's a pretty solid top 5 regardless of position.Would be curious to see some GCL-S all-time teams - Moeller, Elder, Lasalle, St. X........and some other Cincinnati-area teams such as Woodward, Mt. Healthy, Greenhills/Forest Park/Winton Woods...
JJ Lucas vastly underrated Middletown career. Originally committed to OSU then went to Vanderbilt but only played about 1 year. Off court issues but his game did resemble his Dad's. Hope he is well.
It's easy to focus on the high school careers of the Bodnars and Carter Scott, but Alvin Robertson was a great, great player. His high school career may not have been as storied as the triplets, but he was a star at Arkansas and in the NBA with the San Antonio Spurs. It's amazing he doesn't get more mention as one of the best players to come out of Ohio.Barberton
Carter Scott
Alvin Robertson
Mark Bodnar
Marty Bodnar
Adrian Crawford
Fred Foster set a Miami record (which I believe still stands) averaging 26.9 ppg in 1967-68. He had a solid 10-year pro career starting with the old Cincinnati Royals. He was drafted by the Royals and by the Kentucky Colonels of the old ABA. He even played on some BAD Cavs teams towards the end of his career! I even have an old trading card of him with the Royals stashed away somewhere.Springfield
Jody Finney-osu
John Carson- UC
ajamu gaines- charleston
Fred Foster-miami ohio
Fred Carson- Texas
Randy Ayers- miami ohio
Cal Christensen was taken in the 5th round of the 1950 NBA draft by the Tri-Cities Blackhawks! He played in the league for 5 years with them, the Milwaukee Hawks and the Rochester Royals!Jimmy Jackson OSU, NBA
4 people you've never heard of.
Kelvin Ransey (ok, might have heard of him) OSU, NBA
Wardell Jackson OSU
Cal Christenson UToledo, NBA WAY long ago
Bunk Adams Ohio U
Graham certainly was a great WR at Ohio State and had a stellar NFL career, mainly with the Steelers and the Jets.If we are strictly talking high school best five, Jeff Graham belongs on there from early 80's teams.
Kevin Grevey had quite a career. He starred at Kentucky where, despite his game high 34 points, his team lost to UCLA in the '75 NCAA title game in what was John Wooden's last game as coach. Then he went on to an excellent NBA career where he was a member of the Washington Bullets 19877-78 championship team along with Wes Unseld, Elvin Hayes, Phil Chenier and Bobby Dandridge.Hamilton HS
Kevin Grevey-UK-NBA Bullets
Greg Stokes-Iowa-76ers
Chris Kingsbury-Iowa
Bryan Grevey- South Carolina
Payton Townsend-SW Louisiana
Mike & Willie Townsend-ND-NFL
Scott Grevey-Pitt
I had to look this up!Cambridge
1993 - Geno Ford, 2681 pts - Ohio University, current HC at Stony Brook, prevous HC at Kent State, Bradley, Shawnee State, Muskingum College
2003 - Brandon Todd, 1447 pts - Muskingum College, 5'5" Dunker
1918 - John "Zip" Behen, 1392 pts - West Virginia University, Once scored 68 pts in HS game
1983 - Terry "Strawberry" White, 1327 pts - Played football at Ohio State/West Virginia, Kansas City Chiefs/Houston Oilers
1978 - Pete Abuls, 1091 pts - Tennessee Tech (1187 pts, 4 year Letterman, 3 year Captain)
For Moeller- Brannen, Monserez, Sylvester, Duncan, Hayes? That's a pretty solid top 5 regardless of position.
I'm sure this is a great team, but I'm not familiar with anyone other than Hayes. Who are they and where did they go after HS?Yankeefan33 said:
For Moeller- Brannen, Monserez, Sylvester, Duncan, Hayes? That's a pretty solid top 5 regardless of position.
Would be curious to see ... Greenhills/Forest Park/Winton Woods...
Bobby Brannen was GCL POY three times (1992-1994) and went to UC. Monserez was GCL POY in 1999 and went to Butler. Sylvester was GCL POY in 2000 and 2001 and went to Ohio State. And Josh Duncan was GCL POY in 2003 and went to Xavier. The only one that wasnt POY was Hayes, and no offence to Haubner of LaSalle, but Jaxson and Jeremiah Davenport were the two best players in the GCL that year.I'm sure this is a great team, but I'm not familiar with anyone other than Hayes. Who are they and where did they go after HS?
Craig Taylor/Ohio StateFred Foster set a Miami record (which I believe still stands) averaging 26.9 ppg in 1967-68. He had a solid 10-year pro career starting with the old Cincinnati Royals. He was drafted by the Royals and by the Kentucky Colonels of the old ABA. He even played on some BAD Cavs teams towards the end of his career! I even have an old trading card of him with the Royals stashed away somewhere.
Mt. Healthy late 70's to mid 80's under head coach Jake Grunkemeyer:Would be curious to see some GCL-S all-time teams - Moeller, Elder, Lasalle, St. X........and some other Cincinnati-area teams such as Woodward, Mt. Healthy, Greenhills/Forest Park/Winton Woods...
Mt. Healthy late 70's to mid 80's under head coach Jake Grunkemeyer:
Billy Lewis--Kansas St /Miami OH
Brady Jackson--Northern Kentucky
John Marx--Kansas St /Miami OH
Adair Carmichael--current head coach at Mt. Healthy
Darren Davenport--Alcorn St
Ron Benford
Jeff Scott--Cincinnati (Final 4 at UC)
Dale Bryant
Maurice Lamar
Vandalia Butler
John Goldsberry - Class of 2002. Went to UNC Wilmington. Set an NCAA tournament record going 8 for 8 on 3 pointers in a March Madness game.
Josh Higgins - Class of 2003. A 7 footer that went to Western Kentucky.
Seth Gorney - Class of 2004. A 7 footer that went to the University of Iowa.
*Yes, that's right... those Vandalia Butler teams had two 7-footers at the same time... it was crazy to watch.
I can't tell you their records and I don't think they had a bunch of tournament success. I remember watching those guys play one year at UD and they got upset by Wayne pretty early in the tournament. I wasn't talking about team success as much as just saying that those 3 were very good players. Sure, you could argue that the 2 players were only good because of their size, but regardless they were 7 foot tall. Which is pretty crazy at the high school level.What kind of records/accomplishments did VB have with that run of talent from 2001-2004?
Dwayne Hunter , Todd Savoda , they also had a kid transfer in from Indianapolis who went and started at Arizona for 4 years , late 80s early 90s . Had a lot of talent in 80 just didn’t have any coachingMy knowledge of Princeton basketball begins around that time, too. Princeton doesn't seem to talk about its deep basketball legends as much as they do football. I don't know of any guys earlier than Erik Daniels that played in college.
No Joe Rey? Before my time but I always understood he was one of the best to wear the blue and gold. He was the school's all-time scoring leader before Rudy Kirbus.
I saw Walczuk play at both Glimour and Ed’s. John Wooden rarely recruited outside of California. High praise indeed to get his attention from the Midwest.No Tom Pritchard? Started at Indiana as a Freshmen and was significantly more productive in High School and College than Roe.
I would take Steve Lepore over Hamilton.
Also, Jawad Williams was the most talented player to ever walk the halls at St. Edward, no debate. Clancy was the most productive/dominate. and Kipper Nichols or Steve Logan were the best X factor/finisher. Those 4 HAVE to be in your top 5. Who you want to pick for the 5th spot between Walczuk, Lepore, Pritchard, Roe, Hamilton, or Dobbs is a matter of opinion.
What kind of records/accomplishments did VB have with that run of talent from 2001-2004?
I saw Walczuk play at both Glimour and Ed’s. John Wooden rarely recruited outside of California. High praise indeed to get his attention from the Midwest.
Dwayne Hunter , Todd Savoda , they also had a kid transfer in from Indianapolis who went and started at Arizona for 4 years , late 80s early 90s . Had a lot of talent in 80 just didn’t have any coaching
Had to look up the Arizona guy. Some sleuthing brought me to Casey Schmidt who played at Princeton in the 80s, two years at Arizona where he didn't do much, then a transfer to Valparaiso where he had a bigger scoring impact
Daweshi Hunter just got 3 D-1 offers this past week, Wright st , Drake , Cleveland st , that year of prep school looked to help a lot . Casey family was from that area of Indiana so not surprising he transfer back , I do believe his Freshman year he started until a injury but can’t rememberHad to look up the Arizona guy. Some sleuthing brought me to Casey Schmidt who played at Princeton in the 80s, two years at Arizona where he didn't do much, then a transfer to Valparaiso where he had a bigger scoring impact
Joe Fredrick is also famous (infamous) at Notre Dame for his part in the "Catholics vs. Convicts" tee-shirt caper!Here are a few off top of my head ... many more great players so feel free to add more.
Greenhills HS:
Joe Fredrick Captain at Notre Dame late 80's. All time leading scorer at GHS when graduated 1986
Chuck Fredrick Little brother Joe broke all his records
Dan Weiss I think he lead Cincinnati area in scoring at least once but maybe JR & SR year? 81 and 82 maybe?
Andre Williams Great point guard......went to Robert Morris
John Curtis Ohio AA player of the year 1987 I think?
Forest Park HS:
Alex Davis Could do it all and nice career at Ohio State
Reggie Nettles Held almost all school records ...early 80's
Winton Woods:
Robert Hite Miami (FL)
Deforest Riley Penn State was it?
CJ Anderson Xavier
Semaj Christon Xavier ... is he still playing pro ball overseas?
Please add others as best I can do on the fly lol ..... there are some great ones I left off.
Would be curious to see some GCL-S all-time teams - Moeller, Elder, Lasalle, St. X........and some other Cincinnati-area teams such as Woodward, Mt. Healthy, Greenhills/Forest Park/Winton Woods...