Top 10 Mahoning valley players of “our” time.

Spread All Day

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I saw some awful lists on wkbn today about this and was curious as to what you guys think.

heres mine
Maurice Clarett - WGH
Brad Smith- Chaney
Lynn Bowden- WGH
Kyle McCarthy- Mooney
Akise Teague- Ursuline
John Simon - Mooney
Mark Waid- girard
Fitzgerald Toussaint Edwards-Liberty
Deveon Smith- Howland
Mario Manningham- WGH
 

olschoolreddev

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Maurice Clarett - WGH
Shawn Patton - Campbell Memorial
Lynn Bowden - WGH
Mario Manningham - WGH
Anthony Floyd - Chaney
Brad Smith - Chaney
Lorenzo Styles - Farrell
Prescott Burgess - WGH
LJ Scott - Hubbard
John Simon - Mooney
 

Worm02

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Took it a step further...

Mahoning Valley High School Football: Best 53-Man Roster since 2000
(*- played against Warren G. Harding, ^- High School All American)

Quarterback (3)
Lynn Bowden: '17 Warren G. Harding... Kentucky... current Las Vegas Raider
*Derrell Johnson-Koulianos: '06 Cardinal Mooney... Iowa
Brad Smith: '01 Youngstown Chaney... Misourri; 9-Year NFL Career

Running Back (4)
^Maurice Clarett: '02 Warren G. Harding... Ohio State; Denver Broncos
Braylon Heard: '10 Cardinal Mooney... Nebraska/Kentucky... 1-year NFL career
Fitzgerald Toussaint: '09 Liberty... Michigan; 5-year NFL career
Akise Teague: '11 Youngstown Ursuline... Cincinnati

Fullback (1)
David Herron Jr.: '02 Warren G. Harding... Michigan State; 5-year NFL career

Wide Receiver (5)
*Tomaz Hilton: '07 Youngstown Rayen... Cincinnati
Mario Manningham: '05 Warren G. Harding... Michigan; 7-year NFL career
Marcus McWilson: '13 Cardinal Mooney... Kentucky; 1-year NFL career
Darius Patton: '11 Poland... Pitt
*Miles Williams: '04 Austintown Fitch... Michigan State

Tight End (1)
^*Louis Irrizarry : '03 Youngstown Ursuline... Ohio State/YSU

Offensive Linemen (9)
*Brandon Braxton: '04 Youngstown Ursuline... Oklahoma
James Daniels: '15 Warren G. Harding... Iowa; current Chicago Bear
Doug Datish: '02 Howland... Ohio State; 2-year NFL career
*John Greco: '03 Boardman... Toledo; 11-year NFL career
*Dan Gerberry: '04 Austintown Fitch... Ball State; 5-year NFL career
Matt Jones: '15 Hubbard... West Virginia/YSU
Corey Linsley: '09 Boardman... Ohio State; current Green Bay Packer
*Mike McGlynn: '03 Austintown Fitch... Pitt; 8-year NFL career
*Steve Vallos: '02 Boardman... Georgia Tech; 8-year NFL career

Defensive Linemen (9)
*Tommy Carnifax: '16 Howland... current Northwestern Wildcat
Keilen Dykes: '03 Youngstown Chaney... West Virginia; 3-year NFL career
Anthony Hoke: '04 Warren G. Harding... Cincinnati; Cincinnati Bengals
*Ishmaa'ily Kitchen: '07 Cardinal Mooney... Kent State; 5-year NFL career
J.T. Moore: '10 Boardman... Ohio State
*Billy Price: '13 Austintown Fitch... Ohio State; current Cincinnati Bengal
*John Simon: '09 Cardinal Mooney... Ohio State; current New England Patriot
*Jamel Turner: '10 Youngstown Ursuline... Ohio State/Akron
Derek Wolfe: '08 Beaver Local... Cincinnati; current Baltimore Raven

Linebacker (6)
*Brandon Beachum: '08 Cardinal Mooney... Penn State
Isaiah Bell: '09 Liberty... Michigan
John Humphrey: '06 Liberty... Purdue
Tyler Scott: '19 Howland... Northwestern
Maurice Smith-Davis: '03 Howland... Michigan State/YSU
*Mike Zordich Jr.: '08 Cardinal Mooney... Penn State

Cornerback (6)
Tony Davis: '04 Howland... Penn State
Bradley Fletcher: '04 Liberty... Iowa; 7-year NFL career
Marlin Jackson: '01 Sharon (PA)... Michigan... 7-Year NFL Career
Mike Phillips: '03 Warren G. Harding c/o 2003... Pitt
Shaun Lane: '04 Hubbard... Ohio State
Chris Rucker: '07 Warren G. Harding... Michigan State; 1-year NFL career

Safety (5)
^Prescott Burgess: '03 Warren G. Harding... Michigan; 5-year NFL career
Sidney Glover: '07 Warren G. Harding... West Virginia; Buffalo Bills
*Dan McCarthy: '08 Cardinal Mooney... Notre Dame
*Kyle McCarthy: '05 Cardinal Mooney... Notre Dame; 3-year NFL
Anthony Smith: '02 Hubbard... Syracuse; 6-year NFL career

Punter (1)
Mike Kokal: '03 Warren G. Harding... Miami (OH)

Kicker (1)
Andrew Good: '03 Boardman... West Virginia

Long Snapper (1)
Dimitrios Makridis: '03 Warren G. Harding... Ohio State
 

clarkgriswold

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Maurice Clarett - WGH
Brad Smith- Chaney
Lynn Bowden- WGH
Kyle McCarthy- Mooney
Akise Teague- Ursuline
John Simon - Mooney
Mario Manningham- WGH
Prescott Burgess - WGH
LJ Scott - Hubbard
Marcus McWilson- Mooney
 

falcons53

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A lot of people's lists are very heavy on skill players. There are some great OL/DL not on people's lists that were better at their position than some of the skill people listed. Not saying take them off, asking where is the love for the big guys? LOL.
 

falcons53

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Took it a step further...

Mahoning Valley High School Football: Best 53-Man Roster since 2000
(*- played against Warren G. Harding, ^- High School All American)

Quarterback (3)
Lynn Bowden: '17 Warren G. Harding... Kentucky... current Las Vegas Raider
*Derrell Johnson-Koulianos: '06 Cardinal Mooney... Iowa
Brad Smith: '01 Youngstown Chaney... Misourri; 9-Year NFL Career

Running Back (4)
^Maurice Clarett: '02 Warren G. Harding... Ohio State; Denver Broncos
Braylon Heard: '10 Cardinal Mooney... Nebraska/Kentucky... 1-year NFL career
Fitzgerald Toussaint: '09 Liberty... Michigan; 5-year NFL career
Akise Teague: '11 Youngstown Ursuline... Cincinnati

Fullback (1)
David Herron Jr.: '02 Warren G. Harding... Michigan State; 5-year NFL career

Wide Receiver (5)
*Tomaz Hilton: '07 Youngstown Rayen... Cincinnati
Mario Manningham: '05 Warren G. Harding... Michigan; 7-year NFL career
Marcus McWilson: '13 Cardinal Mooney... Kentucky; 1-year NFL career
Darius Patton: '11 Poland... Pitt
*Miles Williams: '04 Austintown Fitch... Michigan State

Tight End (1)
^*Louis Irrizarry : '03 Youngstown Ursuline... Ohio State/YSU

Offensive Linemen (9)
*Brandon Braxton: '04 Youngstown Ursuline... Oklahoma
James Daniels: '15 Warren G. Harding... Iowa; current Chicago Bear
Doug Datish: '02 Howland... Ohio State; 2-year NFL career
*John Greco: '03 Boardman... Toledo; 11-year NFL career
*Dan Gerberry: '04 Austintown Fitch... Ball State; 5-year NFL career
Matt Jones: '15 Hubbard... West Virginia/YSU
Corey Linsley: '09 Boardman... Ohio State; current Green Bay Packer
*Mike McGlynn: '03 Austintown Fitch... Pitt; 8-year NFL career
*Steve Vallos: '02 Boardman... Georgia Tech; 8-year NFL career

Defensive Linemen (9)
*Tommy Carnifax: '16 Howland... current Northwestern Wildcat
Keilen Dykes: '03 Youngstown Chaney... West Virginia; 3-year NFL career
Anthony Hoke: '04 Warren G. Harding... Cincinnati; Cincinnati Bengals
*Ishmaa'ily Kitchen: '07 Cardinal Mooney... Kent State; 5-year NFL career
J.T. Moore: '10 Boardman... Ohio State
*Billy Price: '13 Austintown Fitch... Ohio State; current Cincinnati Bengal
*John Simon: '09 Cardinal Mooney... Ohio State; current New England Patriot
*Jamel Turner: '10 Youngstown Ursuline... Ohio State/Akron
Derek Wolfe: '08 Beaver Local... Cincinnati; current Baltimore Raven

Linebacker (6)
*Brandon Beachum: '08 Cardinal Mooney... Penn State
Isaiah Bell: '09 Liberty... Michigan
John Humphrey: '06 Liberty... Purdue
Tyler Scott: '19 Howland... Northwestern
Maurice Smith-Davis: '03 Howland... Michigan State/YSU
*Mike Zordich Jr.: '08 Cardinal Mooney... Penn State

Cornerback (6)
Tony Davis: '04 Howland... Penn State
Bradley Fletcher: '04 Liberty... Iowa; 7-year NFL career
Marlin Jackson: '01 Sharon (PA)... Michigan... 7-Year NFL Career
Mike Phillips: '03 Warren G. Harding c/o 2003... Pitt
Shaun Lane: '04 Hubbard... Ohio State
Chris Rucker: '07 Warren G. Harding... Michigan State; 1-year NFL career

Safety (5)
^Prescott Burgess: '03 Warren G. Harding... Michigan; 5-year NFL career
Sidney Glover: '07 Warren G. Harding... West Virginia; Buffalo Bills
*Dan McCarthy: '08 Cardinal Mooney... Notre Dame
*Kyle McCarthy: '05 Cardinal Mooney... Notre Dame; 3-year NFL
Anthony Smith: '02 Hubbard... Syracuse; 6-year NFL career

Punter (1)
Mike Kokal: '03 Warren G. Harding... Miami (OH)

Kicker (1)
Andrew Good: '03 Boardman... West Virginia

Long Snapper (1)
Dimitrios Makridis: '03 Warren G. Harding... Ohio State
That's a pretty damn good list!!
 

Raptors99

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LJ Scott Hubbard

One of the best running backs to come out of the mahoning valley

Mahoning valleys all time leader in rushing yards.

Is fifth for most rushing yards in state history for a career.

7th in States all time rushing touchdowns.
 

Qcity

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Kicker - Bryan Wright, '07 Salem; Michigan. (5th longest FG in Ohio history, 57 yards)
 

kingpin2010

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Took it a step further...

Mahoning Valley High School Football: Best 53-Man Roster since 2000
(*- played against Warren G. Harding, ^- High School All American)

Quarterback (3)
Lynn Bowden: '17 Warren G. Harding... Kentucky... current Las Vegas Raider
*Derrell Johnson-Koulianos: '06 Cardinal Mooney... Iowa
Brad Smith: '01 Youngstown Chaney... Misourri; 9-Year NFL Career

Running Back (4)
^Maurice Clarett: '02 Warren G. Harding... Ohio State; Denver Broncos
Braylon Heard: '10 Cardinal Mooney... Nebraska/Kentucky... 1-year NFL career
Fitzgerald Toussaint: '09 Liberty... Michigan; 5-year NFL career
Akise Teague: '11 Youngstown Ursuline... Cincinnati

Fullback (1)
David Herron Jr.: '02 Warren G. Harding... Michigan State; 5-year NFL career

Wide Receiver (5)
*Tomaz Hilton: '07 Youngstown Rayen... Cincinnati
Mario Manningham: '05 Warren G. Harding... Michigan; 7-year NFL career
Marcus McWilson: '13 Cardinal Mooney... Kentucky; 1-year NFL career
Darius Patton: '11 Poland... Pitt
*Miles Williams: '04 Austintown Fitch... Michigan State

Tight End (1)
^*Louis Irrizarry : '03 Youngstown Ursuline... Ohio State/YSU

Offensive Linemen (9)
*Brandon Braxton: '04 Youngstown Ursuline... Oklahoma
James Daniels: '15 Warren G. Harding... Iowa; current Chicago Bear
Doug Datish: '02 Howland... Ohio State; 2-year NFL career
*John Greco: '03 Boardman... Toledo; 11-year NFL career
*Dan Gerberry: '04 Austintown Fitch... Ball State; 5-year NFL career
Matt Jones: '15 Hubbard... West Virginia/YSU
Corey Linsley: '09 Boardman... Ohio State; current Green Bay Packer
*Mike McGlynn: '03 Austintown Fitch... Pitt; 8-year NFL career
*Steve Vallos: '02 Boardman... Georgia Tech; 8-year NFL career

Defensive Linemen (9)
*Tommy Carnifax: '16 Howland... current Northwestern Wildcat
Keilen Dykes: '03 Youngstown Chaney... West Virginia; 3-year NFL career
Anthony Hoke: '04 Warren G. Harding... Cincinnati; Cincinnati Bengals
*Ishmaa'ily Kitchen: '07 Cardinal Mooney... Kent State; 5-year NFL career
J.T. Moore: '10 Boardman... Ohio State
*Billy Price: '13 Austintown Fitch... Ohio State; current Cincinnati Bengal
*John Simon: '09 Cardinal Mooney... Ohio State; current New England Patriot
*Jamel Turner: '10 Youngstown Ursuline... Ohio State/Akron
Derek Wolfe: '08 Beaver Local... Cincinnati; current Baltimore Raven

Linebacker (6)
*Brandon Beachum: '08 Cardinal Mooney... Penn State
Isaiah Bell: '09 Liberty... Michigan
John Humphrey: '06 Liberty... Purdue
Tyler Scott: '19 Howland... Northwestern
Maurice Smith-Davis: '03 Howland... Michigan State/YSU
*Mike Zordich Jr.: '08 Cardinal Mooney... Penn State

Cornerback (6)
Tony Davis: '04 Howland... Penn State
Bradley Fletcher: '04 Liberty... Iowa; 7-year NFL career
Marlin Jackson: '01 Sharon (PA)... Michigan... 7-Year NFL Career
Mike Phillips: '03 Warren G. Harding c/o 2003... Pitt
Shaun Lane: '04 Hubbard... Ohio State
Chris Rucker: '07 Warren G. Harding... Michigan State; 1-year NFL career

Safety (5)
^Prescott Burgess: '03 Warren G. Harding... Michigan; 5-year NFL career
Sidney Glover: '07 Warren G. Harding... West Virginia; Buffalo Bills
*Dan McCarthy: '08 Cardinal Mooney... Notre Dame
*Kyle McCarthy: '05 Cardinal Mooney... Notre Dame; 3-year NFL
Anthony Smith: '02 Hubbard... Syracuse; 6-year NFL career

Punter (1)
Mike Kokal: '03 Warren G. Harding... Miami (OH)

Kicker (1)
Andrew Good: '03 Boardman... West Virginia

Long Snapper (1)
Dimitrios Makridis: '03 Warren G. Harding... Ohio State
Great comprehensive list Worm! Though I think Isaac Smolko should be added! TE from Springfield (I think class of ‘01)- 4 year letter winner at Penn State and floated around nfl practice squads for a number of years.
 

SteelValley

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Worm’s list looks great, but a few additional guys I’d add:
- Josh Swogger (Ursuline)
- De’Veon Smith (Howland)
- Evan Beard (Boardman) at FB
- Malik Hooker (New Castle PA) (if we are including Lawrence/Mercer county)
- Kevin Tuminello (C from Boardman)
 
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SteelValley

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Great comprehensive list Worm! Though I think Isaac Smolko should be added! TE from Springfield (I think class of ‘01)- 4 year letter winner at Penn State and floated around nfl practice squads for a number of years.
I’d agree on Smolko. After Irizarry, probably #2 TE in last 20 years locally.
 

Worm02

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Worm’s list looks great, but a few additional guys I’d add:
- Josh Swogger (Ursuline)
- De’Veon Smith (Howland)
- Evan Beard (Boardman) at FB
- Malik Hooker (New Castle PA) (if we are including Lawrence/Mercer county)
- Kevin Tuminello (C from Boardman)
Thanks! A few notes...

1. I almost added Swogger, but DJK tore Harding up in 2005.
2. De’Veon is my guy. Known his family for years (one of his brothers is also my cousin), but I’ve always been a huge fan of Braylon Heard’s. I interviewed him after the Harding-Mooney game in 2008 when I was a correspondent for the Tribune. I’m pretty sure that’s the day I met YTOWN before the game at Buena Vista.
3. Evan Beard was a beast! Seemed like he was at Boardman forever.
4. I actually checked Wikipedia to see how much of Western PA was part of the Valley. Lawrence County wasn’t included, but it mentioned that their area is covered by the media in Mercer.
5. I was so loaded with offensive linemen, I took out Levi George. I wanted to be biased so bad, but I wanted to showcase our area’s ability to produce NFL linemen.
 

SteelValley

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Thanks! A few notes...

1. I almost added Swogger, but DJK tore Harding up in 2005.
2. De’Veon is my guy. Known his family for years (one of his brothers is also my cousin), but I’ve always been a huge fan of Braylon Heard’s. I interviewed him after the Harding-Mooney game in 2008 when I was a correspondent for the Tribune. I’m pretty sure that’s the day I met YTOWN before the game at Buena Vista.
3. Evan Beard was a beast! Seemed like he was at Boardman forever.
4. I actually checked Wikipedia to see how much of Western PA was part of the Valley. Lawrence County wasn’t included, but it mentioned that their area is covered by the media in Mercer.
5. I was so loaded with offensive linemen, I took out Levi George. I wanted to be biased so bad, but I wanted to showcase our area’s ability to produce NFL linemen.
On #4 - Lawrence is generally part of the Mahoning Valley geographic region just not in our tv media market , like you mentioned, for some reason. It’s odd as they do on ocassion cover Lawrence county teams on local tv.
On #5 - George was another one I thought of as possibility. Tuminello was honestly much better than Greco in HS at Boardman and a case could be made at least equal in college too. Greco just had a little more size.
 

YTOWN

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Worm02,

I believe you are correct that it was prior to that 2008 game.

The thread topic says Mahoning Valley players of "our" time. I'm pretty sure "my" time goes back a bit farther than most of the other posters here. Having said that I would pick a few of the same guys already named but I will list the best I have seen that have not been named above.

Using Worm02's template:

Quarterback (3)
Matt Cavanaugh – Youngstown Chaney - Pitt (QBed the 1976 National Championship team) - 13-year NFL career with Pats, 49ers, Eagles & Giants (OC for the Ravens 1st Super Bowl champ)
Bernie Kosar - Boardman - Miami (FL) (QBed Hurricanes 1st National Championship team) - 13-year NFL career with Browns, Cowboys & Dolphins
Gary Zetts - Struthers - OSU & Va. Tech. Long-time area HC

Running Back (4)
Ted Bell - Mooney (Parade All-American) - Mich St. Knee injury curtailed his post HS career.
A. J. Jones - Youngstown North (Parade All-American) - University of Texas - Drafted by Rams, played for them and Detroit in NFL.
Dennis Mosely - Youngstown Rayen - Iowa (1st Iowa RB to rush for over 1,000 yards in a season, led Big 10 in rushing ) Drafted by the Vikings
J. C. Penney - Youngstown East - Miami (FL) Member of those great Hurricane teams of the mid 80s.

Fullback (1)
Dave Brungard – Youngstown Chaney – OSU & Alabama (played for Woody Hayes & Bear Bryant (TB but I’m making him my FB)

Wide Receiver (5)
Dave Delsignore – Youngstown Chaney – YSU – drafted by 49ers.
Rollen Smith – Youngstown Wilson – U. of Arkansas (DB there) Drafted by Bengals
Brian Marrow – Youngstown South – Wisconsin – CFL
Deollo Anderson – Ursuline (Parade All-American) - Michigan
Omar Provitt – Warren Harding

Tight End (1)
Mike Cobb - Youngstown North - Mich St. - (He was All City as DE at North but played TE in college & NFL) 1st round pick (22nd overall) of Bengals. 5-year NFL career with Bengals & Bears

Offensive Linemen (9)
Jim Snowden - Youngstown East - 1st team All-State as a TE at East but was an OT at Notre Dame and in 7-year NFL career with Redskins.
Paul Cercel – Austintown Fitch – Pitt – drafted by Cowboys
Rich Buzin - Youngstown Wilson - Penn St. - 2nd round draft pick of Rams (41 overall pick). Also played with Giants and Bears in NFL career.
Bill Lenkaitis - Youngstown South - Penn St. - 2nd round choice of Chargers (43 overall pick) 3 years with Chargers and 11 years with Patriots.
Karl Singer – Niles – Purdue – 1st round pick of Patriots in AFL and drafted by Browns in NFL. 3-year NFL career.
Ed Muransky - Mooney - Michigan - Drafted by Raiders - 3-year career with Oak.
Don Maggs - Mooney - Tulane - Oilers 2nd round pick in supplemental draft - 8-year NFL career with Oilers & Broncos
Bob Maggs - Mooney (Parade All-American) - OSU
Korey Stringer - Warren Harding - OSU - 1st round pick (24th overall) of Vikings. 6-year NFL career unfortunately cut short.

Defensive Linemen (9)
Mike DeNiro - Youngstown Chaney - (Parade All-American) Texas A & M. Died in tragic accident while at A & M. I have no doubt he would have played on Sundays.
Bill Kollar - Warren Harding - Montana St. - Drafted in 1st round (23 rd overall) by Bengals. 8-year NFL career with Bengals & TB.
Ross Browner - WWR - Notre Dame (Member of College Football Hall of Fame) -1st round pick (8th overall) of Bengals 10-year NFL career.
Aaron Brown – WWR – OSU – Drafted by TB. 6-year NFL career.
Mike Calhoun - Austintown Fitch - Notre Dame - Drafted by Cowboys Played with SF & TB in NFL.
Melvin Land – Campbell – Mich. St. – Drafted by Miami 3rd round (63 overall) 2-year NFL career.
Mike Trgovac – Austintown Fitch – Michigan.
Travis Davis – Warren Harding – Mich. St. – Drafted in 4th round (85 overall) by Cardinals. 2-year NFL career.
Mike Flores - Youngstown East - Louisville - Drafted by Eagles, 5-year NFL career

If we can pick from the From PA. side of border:

Randy Crowder – Farrell – Penn St. – Drafted by Dolphins. 6-year NFL career with Miami & TB.
Randy Holloway – Sharon – Pitt – 1st round (21 overall) draft pick of Vikings. 7-year career with Vikings & Cardinals.
Bruce Clark – New Castle – Penn St. – 1st round (4 overall) by Packers. 8-year NFL career with Saints & KC



Linebacker (6)
Jamie Rivers - Youngstown South - BGSU - Drafted by Cardinals 8-year NFL career with Cardinals & Jets.
Bob Babich - Campbell Memorial - Mia (O) (Member College Football Hall of Fame) - 1st round pick pf Chargers (18 overall) 9-year NFL career with Chargers & Browns.
Jim O'Malley - Youngstown Chaney - Notre Dame - Drafted by Broncos - spent 3 years with them - team mate of Mr. Gradishar
Randy Gradishar - Champion - OSU (Member College Football Hall of Fame) - 1st round pick (14th overall) of Broncos. 10-year career with Broncos (Should be in the NFL Hall of Fame IMO)
Jerry Olsavsky - Youngstown Chaney - Pitt - Drafted by Steelers - played 9 years with them and 1 with Ravens in 10-year NFL career.
Craig Powell – Youngstown Rayen (Parade All-American) – OSU – 1st round (30 overall) pick of the Browns. 3-year NFL career.

Cornerback (6)
Pete Richardson - Youngstown South - Dayton - 4-year NFL career with Bills. Long time HC at Southern U.
Larry Carwell – Campbell – Iowa St. – Drafted in 3rd round (56 overall) by Oilers. 6-year NFL career.
Terry Taylor - Youngstown Rayen - S. Illinois - 1st round pick (22nd overall) by Seattle. 12-year NFL career with Seahawks, Browns, Lions & Falcons.
Garcia Lane - Youngstown South - OSU - Drafted by KC in 3rd round supplemental draft. 2-year NFL career.
Marcus Coleman – Mooney – Ga. Tech.
Mike Echols - Ursuline - Wisconsin - 4th round draft pick by Titans. 2-year NFL career

Safety (5)
Ken Ambrusko – Youngstown Chaney – Maryland – Drafted by the Bears.
Lou Angelo - Youngstown Chaney - N. Carolina - Tarheels career INT leader until Dre Bly broke his record in late 90s. Still #2.
Mike Zordich – Youngstown Chaney – Drafted by Chargers. 12-year NFL career with Jets, Cardinals & Eagles.
Joey Browner – 2 years at WWR (Parade All-American) – USC – 1st round pick (19 overall) by Vikings. 10-year NFL career.
Dave Arnold – Warren Harding – Michigan – Drafted by Steelers- 2-year NFL career.

Punter (1)
Joe Kent - Youngstown Chaney - YSU. (Best hang time I ever saw)

Kicker (1)
Jeff Wilkins - Austintown Fitch - YSU - 14-year NFL career mainly with Rams.
 
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bulldogcountry

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Maurice Clarett
Lynn Bowden
Mario Manningham
Derrell Johnson
John Simon
Dan McCarthy
Brad Smith
Akise Teague
Jamel Turner
Fitzgerald Toussaint

For Worm’s comprehensive list above another name to add to DE is Vince Browne from Lisbon. All Big Ten selection while at Northwestern.
 

OddJob

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Took it a step further...

Mahoning Valley High School Football: Best 53-Man Roster since 2000
(*- played against Warren G. Harding, ^- High School All American)

Quarterback (3)
Lynn Bowden: '17 Warren G. Harding... Kentucky... current Las Vegas Raider
*Derrell Johnson-Koulianos: '06 Cardinal Mooney... Iowa
Brad Smith: '01 Youngstown Chaney... Misourri; 9-Year NFL Career

Running Back (4)
^Maurice Clarett: '02 Warren G. Harding... Ohio State; Denver Broncos
Braylon Heard: '10 Cardinal Mooney... Nebraska/Kentucky... 1-year NFL career
Fitzgerald Toussaint: '09 Liberty... Michigan; 5-year NFL career
Akise Teague: '11 Youngstown Ursuline... Cincinnati

Fullback (1)
David Herron Jr.: '02 Warren G. Harding... Michigan State; 5-year NFL career

Wide Receiver (5)
*Tomaz Hilton: '07 Youngstown Rayen... Cincinnati
Mario Manningham: '05 Warren G. Harding... Michigan; 7-year NFL career
Marcus McWilson: '13 Cardinal Mooney... Kentucky; 1-year NFL career
Darius Patton: '11 Poland... Pitt
*Miles Williams: '04 Austintown Fitch... Michigan State

Tight End (1)
^*Louis Irrizarry : '03 Youngstown Ursuline... Ohio State/YSU

Offensive Linemen (9)
*Brandon Braxton: '04 Youngstown Ursuline... Oklahoma
James Daniels: '15 Warren G. Harding... Iowa; current Chicago Bear
Doug Datish: '02 Howland... Ohio State; 2-year NFL career
*John Greco: '03 Boardman... Toledo; 11-year NFL career
*Dan Gerberry: '04 Austintown Fitch... Ball State; 5-year NFL career
Matt Jones: '15 Hubbard... West Virginia/YSU
Corey Linsley: '09 Boardman... Ohio State; current Green Bay Packer
*Mike McGlynn: '03 Austintown Fitch... Pitt; 8-year NFL career
*Steve Vallos: '02 Boardman... Georgia Tech; 8-year NFL career

Defensive Linemen (9)
*Tommy Carnifax: '16 Howland... current Northwestern Wildcat
Keilen Dykes: '03 Youngstown Chaney... West Virginia; 3-year NFL career
Anthony Hoke: '04 Warren G. Harding... Cincinnati; Cincinnati Bengals
*Ishmaa'ily Kitchen: '07 Cardinal Mooney... Kent State; 5-year NFL career
J.T. Moore: '10 Boardman... Ohio State
*Billy Price: '13 Austintown Fitch... Ohio State; current Cincinnati Bengal
*John Simon: '09 Cardinal Mooney... Ohio State; current New England Patriot
*Jamel Turner: '10 Youngstown Ursuline... Ohio State/Akron
Derek Wolfe: '08 Beaver Local... Cincinnati; current Baltimore Raven

Linebacker (6)
*Brandon Beachum: '08 Cardinal Mooney... Penn State
Isaiah Bell: '09 Liberty... Michigan
John Humphrey: '06 Liberty... Purdue
Tyler Scott: '19 Howland... Northwestern
Maurice Smith-Davis: '03 Howland... Michigan State/YSU
*Mike Zordich Jr.: '08 Cardinal Mooney... Penn State

Cornerback (6)
Tony Davis: '04 Howland... Penn State
Bradley Fletcher: '04 Liberty... Iowa; 7-year NFL career
Marlin Jackson: '01 Sharon (PA)... Michigan... 7-Year NFL Career
Mike Phillips: '03 Warren G. Harding c/o 2003... Pitt
Shaun Lane: '04 Hubbard... Ohio State
Chris Rucker: '07 Warren G. Harding... Michigan State; 1-year NFL career

Safety (5)
^Prescott Burgess: '03 Warren G. Harding... Michigan; 5-year NFL career
Sidney Glover: '07 Warren G. Harding... West Virginia; Buffalo Bills
*Dan McCarthy: '08 Cardinal Mooney... Notre Dame
*Kyle McCarthy: '05 Cardinal Mooney... Notre Dame; 3-year NFL
Anthony Smith: '02 Hubbard... Syracuse; 6-year NFL career

Punter (1)
Mike Kokal: '03 Warren G. Harding... Miami (OH)

Kicker (1)
Andrew Good: '03 Boardman... West Virginia

Long Snapper (1)
Dimitrios Makridis: '03 Warren G. Harding... Ohio State
Ol Ed Muransky Mooney-Michigan-I think he played about 10 years in the NFL
 

YTOWN

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Ol Ed Muransky Mooney-Michigan-I think he played about 10 years in the NFL
Worm02 posted that his team was the best 53 players since 2000. I named Mr. Muransky on mine.

Probably the most deserving player I left off was Dan Benish from Hubbard and maybe Sylvester Stanley from Youngstown East, both played in the NFL. I went back and forth between them and Mike Trgovac and Chris Vecchione for that matter. Mr. Vecchione is one of my all-time favorite Mooney players. He was a 1st team All-State DE on Mooney's 1987 D3 state champion and a leader on that D, one of the best defenses I have seen at the HS level. He also started on YSU's first National Championship team. He was a very intense player.

Mr. Trgovac was undersized from an NFL DL perspective but he was also super intense, motor never stopped. He was also a heavyweight state champion wrestler. As I rememeber it he threw guys around like rag dolls. Also, I saw him play more that I saw Mr. Benish so I gave him the nod.

A year or two ago I read an interesting article about Dan Benish. Hubbard was still a member of the SVC when he played for the Eagles. Clemson, Notre Dame, Michigan and others expressed interest but he really wanted to play for Woody Hayes. He had a visit scheduled as Hayes had shown interest. However his senior season at Hubbard was 1978 and all OSU fans know what happened that year at the Buckeyes' Bowl game with Clemson.

Anyway the article said Mr. Benish went to the airport for his trip to Columbus where he found there was no ticket for him. He called the OSU football office and they told him that Hayes had been fired and he took all his recruiting material with him when he left so they didn't have anything on him. Benish was convinced to go to Clemson for a visit, of all places since that was the opponent that ended Hayes' career, and he fell in love with the campus. He ended up a starter on Clemson's 1981 National Championship team.

The article went on to say that he was projected as a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick but a rumor started that he had a drug problem and he ended up signing with Atlanta as an undrafted free agent. He made the team and played for the Falcons for 3 seasons. He said he didn't know where the rumor came from but it cost him a lot of money.

The article also talked about his being a replacement player for the Redskins in 1987. It said that caused some problems between him and his father. I guess his father was a strong union guy and he didn't like the fact that his son crossed the picket line. He stayed with the Skins after the regular players returned and received a ring when the Skins won the Super Bowl. He didn't dress for the game but was on the sidelines.

Clemson's Mitch Hyatt is his nephew. He signed with Dallas as an undrafted free agent.
 

olivia jo

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Took it a step further...

Mahoning Valley High School Football: Best 53-Man Roster since 2000
(*- played against Warren G. Harding, ^- High School All American)

Quarterback (3)
Lynn Bowden: '17 Warren G. Harding... Kentucky... current Las Vegas Raider
*Derrell Johnson-Koulianos: '06 Cardinal Mooney... Iowa
Brad Smith: '01 Youngstown Chaney... Misourri; 9-Year NFL Career

Running Back (4)
^Maurice Clarett: '02 Warren G. Harding... Ohio State; Denver Broncos
Braylon Heard: '10 Cardinal Mooney... Nebraska/Kentucky... 1-year NFL career
Fitzgerald Toussaint: '09 Liberty... Michigan; 5-year NFL career
Akise Teague: '11 Youngstown Ursuline... Cincinnati

Fullback (1)
David Herron Jr.: '02 Warren G. Harding... Michigan State; 5-year NFL career

Wide Receiver (5)
*Tomaz Hilton: '07 Youngstown Rayen... Cincinnati
Mario Manningham: '05 Warren G. Harding... Michigan; 7-year NFL career
Marcus McWilson: '13 Cardinal Mooney... Kentucky; 1-year NFL career
Darius Patton: '11 Poland... Pitt
*Miles Williams: '04 Austintown Fitch... Michigan State

Tight End (1)
^*Louis Irrizarry : '03 Youngstown Ursuline... Ohio State/YSU

Offensive Linemen (9)
*Brandon Braxton: '04 Youngstown Ursuline... Oklahoma
James Daniels: '15 Warren G. Harding... Iowa; current Chicago Bear
Doug Datish: '02 Howland... Ohio State; 2-year NFL career
*John Greco: '03 Boardman... Toledo; 11-year NFL career
*Dan Gerberry: '04 Austintown Fitch... Ball State; 5-year NFL career
Matt Jones: '15 Hubbard... West Virginia/YSU
Corey Linsley: '09 Boardman... Ohio State; current Green Bay Packer
*Mike McGlynn: '03 Austintown Fitch... Pitt; 8-year NFL career
*Steve Vallos: '02 Boardman... Georgia Tech; 8-year NFL career

Defensive Linemen (9)
*Tommy Carnifax: '16 Howland... current Northwestern Wildcat
Keilen Dykes: '03 Youngstown Chaney... West Virginia; 3-year NFL career
Anthony Hoke: '04 Warren G. Harding... Cincinnati; Cincinnati Bengals
*Ishmaa'ily Kitchen: '07 Cardinal Mooney... Kent State; 5-year NFL career
J.T. Moore: '10 Boardman... Ohio State
*Billy Price: '13 Austintown Fitch... Ohio State; current Cincinnati Bengal
*John Simon: '09 Cardinal Mooney... Ohio State; current New England Patriot
*Jamel Turner: '10 Youngstown Ursuline... Ohio State/Akron
Derek Wolfe: '08 Beaver Local... Cincinnati; current Baltimore Raven

Linebacker (6)
*Brandon Beachum: '08 Cardinal Mooney... Penn State
Isaiah Bell: '09 Liberty... Michigan
John Humphrey: '06 Liberty... Purdue
Tyler Scott: '19 Howland... Northwestern
Maurice Smith-Davis: '03 Howland... Michigan State/YSU
*Mike Zordich Jr.: '08 Cardinal Mooney... Penn State

Cornerback (6)
Tony Davis: '04 Howland... Penn State
Bradley Fletcher: '04 Liberty... Iowa; 7-year NFL career
Marlin Jackson: '01 Sharon (PA)... Michigan... 7-Year NFL Career
Mike Phillips: '03 Warren G. Harding c/o 2003... Pitt
Shaun Lane: '04 Hubbard... Ohio State
Chris Rucker: '07 Warren G. Harding... Michigan State; 1-year NFL career

Safety (5)
^Prescott Burgess: '03 Warren G. Harding... Michigan; 5-year NFL career
Sidney Glover: '07 Warren G. Harding... West Virginia; Buffalo Bills
*Dan McCarthy: '08 Cardinal Mooney... Notre Dame
*Kyle McCarthy: '05 Cardinal Mooney... Notre Dame; 3-year NFL
Anthony Smith: '02 Hubbard... Syracuse; 6-year NFL career

Punter (1)
Mike Kokal: '03 Warren G. Harding... Miami (OH)

Kicker (1)
Andrew Good: '03 Boardman... West Virginia

Long Snapper (1)
Dimitrios Makridis: '03 Warren G. Harding... Ohio State
Looking at the list which seems spot on, the 2002-2005 best group of local players .
 

YTOWN

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Ytown. Write a book. Seriously. I’d buy it.
I've done a few. As an example the following is from the 1st year of football in Steel Valley Conference History. The book has complete game write-ups, line-ups, pictures, etc. for the league champion every season, which in this case is Campbell, but I also include the league standings, results of every game played by the league members, team coaches, and the All-League team, where they attended college if any, played in the NFL, etc. At the beginning of every season I include an intro that talks about the best teams and players in the area, etc.

PS: Below is not how it appears in the book at all but it's the only way I can get it to post legibly without typing it all again.



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The corresponding 1950 City Series results:
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Worm02

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I've done a few. As an example the following is from the 1st year of football in Steel Valley Conference History. The book has complete game write-ups, line-ups, pictures, etc. for the league champion every season, which in this case is Campbell, but I also include the league standings, results of every game played by the league members, team coaches, and the All-League team, where they attended college if any, played in the NFL, etc. At the beginning of every season I include an intro that talks about the best teams and players in the area, etc.

PS: Below is not how it appears in the book at all but it's the only way I can get it to post legibly without typing it all again.



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The corresponding 1950 City Series results:
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You've written books? I need copies of these today!
 

Worm02

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Looking at the list which seems spot on, the 2002-2005 best group of local players .
Yeah man the early 2000's was crazy in the area! Too bad the originally cancelled the Harding-Howland series after the '98 game. Doug Datish, Maurice Smith-Davis, Tony Davis, Brandon Alexander, etc. Those cats were good! I know Howland opened up the '03 season with Clevelad Benedictine. Should've opened up with Harding! Would've been an insane gate!

Meanwhile, before the world shut down, I had been collecting articles at the library off of microfilm (very nice staff!). I got everything that I didn't already have from the 2000's and before I finished the 90's, I "cheated" and did Harding's '74 & '75 seasons (mind you, I was born in 1983). I found out that back then, the Tribune had a section in the sports page that shouted out Trumbull County's freshman college football players. They printed the following in '75. Look at how big these lists are! Lakeview sent an offensive tackle to Florida, Windham sent guys to Penn State & Purdue, Mathews sent three guys to YSU, etc. Sheesh!Trumbull County Freshmen In College_2.jpg
 

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Even Windham was sending kids to D-I schools back then. The “Golden Triangle” recruiting area was rocking and roll in’.
 

YTOWN

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Even Windham was sending kids to D-I schools back then. The “Golden Triangle” recruiting area was rocking and roll in’.
Yes it was. The Vindicator did something similar to what Worm posted but it was for D1 players from the Youngstown-Warren area, there would have been far too many to list otherwise. Chuck Perazich was the sports editor at that time and he would periodically publish the stats from the NCAA regarding number of D1 players produced per capita in areas that had a population of at least 500,000.

The Youngstown-Warren area often led the country at the time. In one of the articles the NCAA said that the local area led the country with one D1 player produced per approx. every 6100 people. Cincinnati was #2 with 1 per approx. 8200 people. It then listed the 84 D1 players from the Youngstown-Warren area at the time.

In addition they used to publish pictures of those graduating players going D1 singing their LOIs. Usually their fathers were standing behind them as they signed. I can remember one in particular. At the table were the following seniors signing their LOIs:

Bernie Kosar - Boardman - Miami (Fla)
Mike Zordich - Chaney - Penn St.
Bob Maggs - Mooney - OSU
Steve Johnson - Mooney - Michigan
John Thomas - Mooney - Ga. Tech.
George Saadey - Mooney - Cincinnati
Ray Carter - Ursuline - Notre Dame
Al Ezman - Ursuline - Air Force.
Don Ginetti - Struthers - Penn St.
Pete Popovich - Austintown Fitch - Tulane but he transferred to Kansas
Jed Kesler - Boardman - Cincinnati
Ellis Sullivan - South - Cincinnati
Victor Bush - South - Cincinnati

There were several others that went on to YSU, Akron, MAC schools, S. Illinois etc. and that was just Mahoning County.

The area still produces some big time talent but not in the quantity that it once did which of course makes sense considering the huge population loss. The area doesn't even qualify for the NCAA prerequisite 500,000 population anymore.
 

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Yes it was. The Vindicator did something similar to what Worm posted but it was for D1 players from the Youngstown-Warren area, there would have been far too many to list otherwise. Chuck Perazich was the sports editor at that time and he would periodically publish the stats from the NCAA regarding number of D1 players produced per capita in areas that had a population of at least 500,000.

The Youngstown-Warren area often led the country at the time. In one of the articles the NCAA said that the local area led the country with one D1 player produced per approx. every 6100 people. Cincinnati was #2 with 1 per approx. 8200 people. It then listed the 84 D1 players from the Youngstown-Warren area at the time.

In addition they used to publish pictures of those graduating players going D1 singing their LOIs. Usually their fathers were standing behind them as they signed. I can remember one in particular. At the table were the following seniors signing their LOIs:

Bernie Kosar - Boardman - Miami (Fla)
Mike Zordich - Chaney - Penn St.
Bob Maggs - Mooney - OSU
Steve Johnson - Mooney - Michigan
John Thomas - Mooney - Ga. Tech.
George Saadey - Mooney - Cincinnati
Ray Carter - Ursuline - Notre Dame
Al Ezman - Ursuline - Air Force.
Don Ginetti - Struthers - Penn St.
Pete Popovich - Austintown Fitch - Tulane but he transferred to Kansas
Jed Kesler - Boardman - Cincinnati
Ellis Sullivan - South - Cincinnati
Victor Bush - South - Cincinnati

There were several others that went on to YSU, Akron, MAC schools, S. Illinois etc. and that was just Mahoning County.

The area still produces some big time talent but not in the quantity that it once did which of course makes sense considering the huge population loss. The area doesn't even qualify for the NCAA prerequisite 500,000 population anymore.

The talent back then was crazy. The SVC had so many great players. Where it is really obvious was the speed of those games. The players were just so quick.
 

YTOWN

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I never see Sammy Shon, the former Youngstown Rayen and Ohio U quarterback on any of these lists.
I have mentioned Mr. Shon a few times in the past but you are correct in that he probably does not get his due from area fans.

One of my brothers in-law was a teammate of Sam Shon at Rayen. Shon was the All-City QB at Rayen before heading to OU where he broke all the career passing and total offense records for the Bobcats. I think he is still 3rd all-time in passing yards and total offense at OU. I can remember him breaking Chuck Ealey's MAC single game total offense record as a junior. He was the MAC Offensive Player of the Year as a senior.
 
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