Raymo
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Need him and another BIG stick because they all get hurt during the long season every year.
The Official 2020 Cleveland Indians Thread
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clarkgriswold
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Indians not only send Zack Plesac home for being a d!psh!+ and leaving the team hotel in Chicago, but they make him rent his own car and drive back, I love it.
wolves82
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You get embarrassed easily. The actions of the Indians do not reflect on you personally. No need to be embarrassed, no one is really aware who you are.
clarkgriswold
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Nice of Plesac to establish he's not only an irresponsible dimwit but also a whiney d0u@he.
Sig Hansen
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They're half a game out of the playoffs brian. Chill out bro
Sig Hansen
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Did not see the news about Clevinger and Plesac until just now. Both still come out looking like morons.
www.cbssports.com
Cleveland options Mike Clevinger and Zach Plesac to alternate site after pitchers break COVID protocols
The starters went out in Chicago and were placed on the restricted list
www.cbssports.com
Raymo
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The youngins want to have fun,only care about themselfs...BAM!Did not see the news about Clevinger and Plesac until just now. Both still come out looking like morons.
Cleveland options Mike Clevinger and Zach Plesac to alternate site after pitchers break COVID protocols
The starters went out in Chicago and were placed on the restricted list
Omar
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“The last thing I want to do is hurt my teammates” he says driving down the road while filming a video for social media. I know he’s a young guy, but that’s just stupid. If you f up, own it. Don’t blame anyone else.Did not see the news about Clevinger and Plesac until just now. Both still come out looking like morons.
Cleveland options Mike Clevinger and Zach Plesac to alternate site after pitchers break COVID protocols
The starters went out in Chicago and were placed on the restricted list
Raymo
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Good to see him on the mound tonite,not very sharp but he'll get better.
OhioBobcatFan06
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Bad trade. The Indians do not care about winning.
I am not sure that I agree. The front office typically does a very good job with trades.
wolves82
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The Indians care about winning, and they are winning. And for what it's worth, this is the most pathetic thread on Yappi, considering the team is doing well. Very few posts and all negative. Of course most of that is a dopey "fan" named Brian. Our Reds thread is way more active and informative.
The Indians care about winning, but they seem to care about players who care about their team. Dipsh*t Clevinger left to go out on the town in Chicago and clearly lost the faith of management and probably his teammates. He is a talented pitcher and will help SD, but I do not blame the Indians one bit.
The national media is making Clevinger sound like the reincarnation of Cy Young, although some think the Indians did well. I am, however, glad to see Greg Allen gone. He never failed to disappoint.
From SI:
Cleveland: Mike Clevinger was the most attractive player on the market this year. Cleveland should have had plenty of leverage in trying to move him. Which makes it easy to see their return as... a bit underwhelming. It’s not bad. It’s just oriented more toward quantity over quality without a major headliner—a six-player package of Cal Quantrill, Josh Naylor, Austin Hedges, Gabriel Arias, Joey Cantillo and Owen Miller.
There are guys to be somewhat excited about in there. Given Cleveland’s reputation for pitching development, Quantrill could become a standout. Arias is a promising prospect. And as much as this team needs an outfield bat, Naylor is a welcome addition. (Well, Naylor’s defense means that he’s not a long-term outfield solution, but he’ll slot in there for now, and his offense will be greatly appreciated.) It’s all fine! It’s just not as sexy as what you may have been expecting, and when it comes to a player as talented as Clevinger, that can be tough to swallow.
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Naylor could boost Cleveland's heretofore offensively inept outfield if he taps into the form that led him to a .936 OPS at Triple-A in 2019. Quantrill, who has a 2.63 ERA in nine relief appearances, will provide immediate help for Cleveland's bullpen.
For his part, Hedges is an elite defensive catcher with club control through 2022. And according to MLB.com, Arias, Cantillo and Miller had been the No. 7, 9 and 11 prospects, respectively, in San Diego's ultra-deep farm system.
Granted, there's an argument Cleveland should not have traded one of its best pitchers in the middle of a contention run. But especially considering the recent hit to his value, Cleveland got a darn good package for Clevinger.
From SI:
Cleveland: Mike Clevinger was the most attractive player on the market this year. Cleveland should have had plenty of leverage in trying to move him. Which makes it easy to see their return as... a bit underwhelming. It’s not bad. It’s just oriented more toward quantity over quality without a major headliner—a six-player package of Cal Quantrill, Josh Naylor, Austin Hedges, Gabriel Arias, Joey Cantillo and Owen Miller.
There are guys to be somewhat excited about in there. Given Cleveland’s reputation for pitching development, Quantrill could become a standout. Arias is a promising prospect. And as much as this team needs an outfield bat, Naylor is a welcome addition. (Well, Naylor’s defense means that he’s not a long-term outfield solution, but he’ll slot in there for now, and his offense will be greatly appreciated.) It’s all fine! It’s just not as sexy as what you may have been expecting, and when it comes to a player as talented as Clevinger, that can be tough to swallow.
Clevinger's a very good pitcher. Career ERA of 3.20 and 10.0 K/9. Last year, 2.71 ERA and 12.1 K/9. And we couldn't even get an average major league player back for him? When we were in first place at the time? Something is very wrong here.
Look at this list:
Is there any precedent for a first-place team trading a pitcher of this caliber and not getting even an average major leaguer in return? When Gerrit Cole (who I admit is a better pitcher than Clevinger) was traded by the Pirates, they were coming off a 75-87 season.
Look at this list:
Is there any precedent for a first-place team trading a pitcher of this caliber and not getting even an average major leaguer in return? When Gerrit Cole (who I admit is a better pitcher than Clevinger) was traded by the Pirates, they were coming off a 75-87 season.
What's everyone's thoughts as to what's wrong with Frankie Lindor?
Aside from the well documented issues at the plate, he's made several uncharacteristic baserunning/fielding mistakes (not touching second the other night and getting called out on the appeal) and, to my eyes, just doesn't seem to be into it as much this year, overall. The mental errors seem to be up this year. The 30,000-watt smile still gets turned on every so often but overall he looks distracted. Is it his contract? Is it the absence of Van Burkleo and Tito? Is it all these things? I'd like to hear what the yappi faithful has to say on the subject.
Aside from the well documented issues at the plate, he's made several uncharacteristic baserunning/fielding mistakes (not touching second the other night and getting called out on the appeal) and, to my eyes, just doesn't seem to be into it as much this year, overall. The mental errors seem to be up this year. The 30,000-watt smile still gets turned on every so often but overall he looks distracted. Is it his contract? Is it the absence of Van Burkleo and Tito? Is it all these things? I'd like to hear what the yappi faithful has to say on the subject.
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