I'm watching this show but I'm two episodes behind right now due to switching cable providers (and losing what I DVR'd).Episode 3 was very good and the story is starting to gather momentum big time. But I have to ask is anyone else watching this show?
As the moral authority Holden is fated to be a bit dull throughout the series. I agree that the Amos/Alex interactions are funny as hell and represent the heart of the show. Like when the two are in a bar at Tycho Station and Amos tells Alex that he's "staying next door" and Alex looks at him funny and says "but that's a brothel" and Amos gives nonchalantly replies "yea I know".Who DOESN'T look forward to dinner? As soon as I see them heading towards the kitchen, I know there's going to be some fun.
Yes the problems was first season, too much time trying to set up characters and too long getting around to what the heck was going on. I'll probably rewatch Season I, maybe it wasn't as slow as it felt. Now for sure, it's break neck and the visuals are outstanding. Best space battle ever.
I still do not like the lead though. He's dull, hard to see why anyone would look to him to lead. Just don't like the actor-character match. Amos' story however can't come fast enough and the play between him and Alex is the best part of the show (for me). The part I don't get, they brought in those Martians marines and just seemed to have dropped the ball, with a little exception at the end of last ep.
The funny part (spoilers avoided), I fell asleep during the episode on EROS, woke just at the end and go WHAT!!! I've watched the most recent, one of the best episodes in all quarters yet, politics, factions, fighting, relationships.... and still have to go watch that bit I slept through.
The way Amos dead panned it had me rolling. Both actors nailing it, even tougher for Alex/Anvar playing a "Texan." Goes so much against the vision in the head of a "Texan."Amos/Alex interactions are funny as hell and represent the heart of the show. Like when the two are in a bar at Tycho Station and Amos tells Alex that he's "staying next door" and Alex looks at him funny and says "but that's a brothel" and Amos gives nonchalantly replies "yea I know".
That was the best depiction of a death in hard vacuum I have seen. Not spectacularly gory but subtly disturbing. The way shes moving her mouth in a silent scream is chilling. The belters are hard core that's for sure.The last five minutes are gold. They've reached Babylon 5 levels for depicting life in general. Alex' scene with the photograph, seeing THROUGH the photograph was pure genius. Amos also had a scene steal.
The two leads though, continue to lack any chemistry. That relationship just hadn't gelled for me and it's mostly on the lead. I can't recall a scene he's been in that that I felt "real" or emotional.
As for the plot in general: No way Miller is "dead," things are moving perfectly fast and the right guys got a bullet in the brain from the right person in the right manner. Enjoyed that.
How about that death in space scene? Saw it coming but wow.
The amazing thing Yappi is there's so much more to come. They have barely scratched the surface of the story of the proto-molecule and its impact on the solar system.I'm still a week behind but I like that the show is really moving along. A couple of the characters are starting to evolve but I think that Amos is the best character at this point. Hopefully they don't send him off the deep end. It's refreshing to watch him tell someone how it really is.
In the books Bobbie, Amos and Fred are my favorite characters and so far the TV series is depicting them well. I love how on Mao's ship Bobbie acts like a typical marine thrown into the world of high stakes negotiation - she starts chowing down on the hors d'oeuvres while everyone else is ignoring them. You just can't pass up free food!I think you forgot the link? Colony, I wouldn't put near in the same category. It's maybe after a season and a half finding some legs.
Just finished my rewatch of Season One of The Expanse. Most of my original "complaints," still valid. Dramatic scenes awkwardly forced or played out meme worthy.... and the lead, just doesn't have any charisma that would seem leadership worthy and has NO chem with his second but now for the good, I mean the really good.
It is packed. Rewatch, there were little things, off the cuff at the time comments that set up very important characterizations and plot points later. This is show that will age well and each season well worth a rewatch as the next season unfolds..
No two characters seem as if they were written by the same person, each has a different "voice" but often within a very well defined culture, based upon personal history. Their actors get to act. Even the one-offs get a chance to show their chops and they rarely over do it. The pilot who lost her husband, the spaced lady, the man who lost his boy.... As far as leads: we've mention Amos and Alex, but what did you all think of the actor playing Bobbie, when she saw the ocean? I could rewatch that scene many times and probably always see something new.
Continuity though the seasons I already mentioned but even little things: make the show so intelligent. Two that come to mind: Ganymede just before the marines are attacked, in the dome on the horizon there's something I hadn't noticed on first watch but which became a terrific continuity point two shows later. After Bobbie put the hurt on the jerk, next scene show her leaving the room and she gives her hand a little shake. Nothing demonstrative but it totally keeps the scenes connected and adds a little humor. Another Bobbie moment ( I think I'm going to like this character ), when she gets to the lounge on Mao's ship. Even better, no one makes a deal, they just ignore her.
Game of Thrones and Babylon 5 world and character building level, easily.
"Holden?" I never mentioned having a problem with Holden. They're maybe over-doing the Captain Ahab thing a bit, but I can see they at least tried to make it credible. It's the actor I'm not impressed by.As an aside, Holden, as the flawed "moral" center of the show is kind of a thankless character in the books to. You need him to occupy the crucial role of naive "do gooder" to help propel events along. That he ends up making things worse is part of the narrative.
She's a great character and the actress they have fits her book persona perfectly. BTW, in the books she's a hoot and pretty much refers to Holden as "Jim F###ing Holden" all the time. Their relationship actually is funny as you have her amorality matching up against Holden's naive morality with BOTH having the best interests of the human race at heart.I'm now through episode 10 of season 2, so only two episodes behind. Unlike others, I did not find the first couple episodes of the series to drag at all. We were pretty much hooked from the start.
I do agree that the lead character (Holden) is kind of lame. His moralistic brooding and constantly trying to blame himself for everything has grown wearisome. I like most of the other characters though. Amos and Alex are good, Fred Johnson is good, the politicians are entertaining, and Miller is (was) awesome. I didn't like Avasarala at first but she (and her mouth) have grown on me
I agree with you that he's probably not the best guy for the part though he's improved in season 2. My sense is that based on his book character it would have been a tough job for any actor to pull off. On the other characters though they nailed it."Holden?" I never mentioned having a problem with Holden. They're maybe over-doing the Captain Ahab thing a bit, but I can see they at least tried to make it credible. It's the actor I'm not impressed by.