Stark County Week 5
- Thread starter bodiaz
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just a fan
Success is Tradition!
He doesn't have St. V. student athletes at McKinley!
He has a loss to the 4th - 6th best team in R1. Stop talking about how great the coach is....let him demonstrate it. He has the opportunity the next three weeks. Focus on that!
Benchboss1
Well-known member
Failure to answer the question huh? I thought it was a simple one. I will give you another shot.
What, in your opinion, constitutes one entity "owning" another entity in sports. I will relax and wait for the answer.
Rams
Active member
I actually hope he ends up being a great coach for you guys and gets them back to where they belong except week 10 of course. But it takes a little time to do. I agree with you be patient and see what happens in the next few weeks. But even if they struggle and lose another game or two don’t panic. Give him some time.
Hayden Fox
Active member
Like what Coach Wattley is doing at McKinley and Week 10 should be fun this year at TBHOFS
However I think this Massillon team is loaded and it’s going to take an almost perfect game to beat the Tigers this season.
How about the job Coach Budd has done at Jackson? FLC and two playoff appearances and this year had huge uptick in numbers. He’s really helped change the football culture at Jackson.
However I think this Massillon team is loaded and it’s going to take an almost perfect game to beat the Tigers this season.
How about the job Coach Budd has done at Jackson? FLC and two playoff appearances and this year had huge uptick in numbers. He’s really helped change the football culture at Jackson.
State champion probabilities
Updated 23-Sep-2019 9:51PM
Scores & schedules courtesy of Joe Eitel
Regional champion probabilities
(teams below 0.2% not shown)
Division 1
Mentor (4-0) 16%
Lakewood St Edward (3-1) 16%
Cleveland St Ignatius (2-2) 15%
Cincinnati St Xavier (4-0) 15%
Cincinnati Elder (3-1) 7.0%
Dublin Coffman (4-0) 5.6%
Powell Olentangy Liberty (4-0) 5.2%
Springboro (4-0) 2.3%
Fairfield (4-0) 2.2%
Cincinnati Colerain (3-1) 2.0%
Hilliard Davidson (3-1) 1.7%
Springfield (3-1) 1.4%
Toledo Whitmer (4-0) 1.3%
Euclid (4-0) 1.2%
Westerville Central (4-0) 1.1%
Pickerington Central (3-1) 0.9%
Reynoldsburg (4-0) 0.7%
Clayton Northmont (2-2) 0.6%
West Chester Lakota West (3-1) 0.5%
Hilliard Darby (3-1) 0.5%
Dublin Jerome (3-1) 0.4%
Strongsville (4-0) 0.4%
Canton McKinley (3-1) 0.3%
Stow-Munroe Falls (3-1) 0.3%
Medina (3-1) 0.2%
Division 2
Massillon Washington (4-0) 25%
Cincinnati La Salle (4-0) 21%
Akron Archbishop Hoban (3-1) 13%
Cincinnati Winton Woods (4-0) 11%
Avon (4-0) 5.3%
Toledo Central Catholic (4-0) 4.7%
Whitehouse Anthony Wayne (4-0) 3.1%
Cleveland Benedictine (4-0) 2.2%
Cincinnati Turpin (4-0) 2.1%
Westerville South (4-0) 2.0%
Mayfield (4-0) 2.0%
Lewis Center Olentangy (2-2) 1.2%
Olmsted Falls (4-0) 1.0%
Avon Lake (3-1) 1.0%
Uniontown Lake (4-0) 0.8%
Columbus St Francis DeSales (3-1) 0.5%
Wadsworth (2-2) 0.4%
Harrison (3-1) 0.4%
Amherst Steele (4-0) 0.4%
Barberton (3-1) 0.3%
Massillon Perry (3-1) 0.3%
Austintown-Fitch (3-1) 0.3%
Maple Heights (3-1) 0.3%
Canal Winchester (4-0) 0.3%
Toledo St Francis de Sales (3-1) 0.2%
Warren G Harding (2-2) 0.2%
North Canton Hoover (3-1) 0.2%
Brecksville-Broadview Heights (2-2) 0.2%
Troy (3-1) 0.1%
Division 3
Columbus Bishop Hartley (4-0) 12%
Steubenville (3-1) 11%
Wapakoneta (4-0) 7.5%
Zanesville (4-0) 6.3%
New Philadelphia (4-0) 5.8%
Trotwood-Madison (3-1) 5.5%
Kettering Archbishop Alter (3-1) 5.1%
Granville (4-0) 5.0%
Sandusky (4-0) 4.6%
Columbus Bishop Watterson (4-0) 4.3%
Chagrin Falls Kenston (4-0) 4.2%
Akron St Vincent-St Mary (3-1) 3.6%
Tiffin Columbian (4-0) 2.7%
Aurora (4-0) 2.4%
Dover (3-1) 2.3%
Mansfield (4-0) 2.1%
Chardon (3-1) 1.6%
Dayton Chaminade Julienne (3-1) 1.4%
Plain City Jonathan Alder (4-0) 1.1%
Richfield Revere (3-1) 1.0%
London (4-0) 1.0%
Niles McKinley (4-0) 1.0%
Norwalk (3-1) 0.9%
Medina Buckeye (3-1) 0.9%
Cincinnati Mount Healthy (2-2) 0.7%
Franklin (3-1) 0.5%
Dresden Tri-Valley (3-1) 0.4%
Louisville (2-2) 0.4%
Franklin Bishop Fenwick (2-2) 0.4%
Jackson (4-0) 0.4%
St Marys Memorial (2-2) 0.4%
Bay Village Bay (3-1) 0.3%
Parma Heights Holy Name (3-1) 0.3%
Akron Coventry (4-0) 0.3%
Hamilton Ross (3-1) 0.2%
Ravenna (4-0) 0.2%
Hamilton Badin (2-2) 0.2%
Lima Shawnee (3-1) 0.2%
Streetsboro (4-0) 0.2%
Thornville Sheridan (3-1) 0.2%
Cleveland Glenville (1-3) 0.1%
Chardon Notre Dame-Cathedral Latin (2-2) 0.1%
Division 4
Perry (4-0) 19%
Cincinnati Wyoming (4-0) 17%
Newark Licking Valley (4-0) 14%
Gnadenhutten Indian Valley (4-0) 5.7%
Bellville Clear Fork (3-1) 4.2%
St Clairsville (4-0) 3.3%
Clarksville Clinton-Massie (3-1) 3.1%
Germantown Valley View (4-0) 3.0%
Mentor Lake Catholic (2-2) 2.5%
Girard (4-0) 2.2%
Bellevue (3-1) 2.2%
Clyde (3-1) 2.2%
Wintersville Indian Creek (3-1) 1.7%
Hubbard (3-1) 1.7%
Ottawa-Glandorf (3-1) 1.7%
Cuyahoga Falls Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy (3-1) 1.5%
Youngstown Cardinal Mooney (2-2) 1.4%
Kenton (3-1) 1.1%
Shelby (3-1) 1.1%
Wauseon (4-0) 1.1%
Canal Fulton Northwest (4-0) 1.1%
Galion (4-0) 1.0%
Cincinnati Archbishop McNicholas (3-1) 0.9%
Van Wert (2-2) 0.8%
Poland Seminary (2-2) 0.8%
Cincinnati Indian Hill (3-1) 0.6%
West Milton Milton-Union (4-0) 0.6%
Columbus Marion-Franklin (2-2) 0.4%
Bloom-Carroll (3-1) 0.4%
Heath (3-1) 0.3%
Struthers (2-2) 0.3%
Gallipolis Gallia Academy (4-0) 0.3%
Salem (4-0) 0.3%
La Grange Keystone (3-1) 0.2%
St Bernard Roger Bacon (3-1) 0.2%
Sandusky Perkins (3-1) 0.2%
Huron (3-1) 0.2%
Waynesville (3-1) 0.2%
Division 5
Kirtland (4-0) 40%
Orrville (4-0) 12%
Pemberville Eastwood (4-0) 5.9%
West Jefferson (4-0) 4.7%
Ironton (3-1) 4.2%
Oak Harbor (4-0) 4.0%
Amanda-Clearcreek (4-0) 2.5%
Cincinnati Taft (3-1) 2.4%
Cincinnati Hills Christian Academy (3-1) 2.0%
West Lafayette Ridgewood (4-0) 1.8%
Rootstown (4-0) 1.8%
Johnstown-Monroe (1-3) 1.7%
Marion Pleasant (3-1) 1.7%
Cincinnati Madeira (4-0) 1.6%
Gahanna Columbus Academy (2-2) 1.4%
Akron Manchester (3-1) 1.3%
Wheelersburg (2-2) 1.2%
West Liberty-Salem (4-0) 1.1%
Elyria Catholic (2-2) 0.7%
Minford (4-0) 0.7%
Canfield South Range (2-2) 0.7%
Sugarcreek Garaway (4-0) 0.7%
Springfield Shawnee (3-1) 0.6%
Portsmouth (4-0) 0.6%
Mantua Crestwood (4-0) 0.6%
Garrettsville Garfield (4-0) 0.5%
Tontogany Otsego (3-1) 0.5%
Findlay Liberty-Benton (3-1) 0.4%
Middletown Madison (2-2) 0.4%
Columbus Bishop Ready (2-2) 0.4%
Northwood (4-0) 0.4%
Canton Central Catholic (2-2) 0.3%
Cincinnati Mariemont (4-0) 0.3%
Richwood North Union (2-2) 0.3%
Magnolia Sandy Valley (3-1) 0.2%
Brookville (3-1) 0.2%
Lewistown Indian Lake (3-1) 0.2%
Division 6
Coldwater (4-0) 33%
Anna (4-0) 14%
New Middletown Springfield (4-0) 7.3%
Minster (3-1) 5.3%
Mogadore (3-1) 5.1%
Mechanicsburg (4-0) 5.0%
Beverly Fort Frye (4-0) 4.8%
Liberty Center (4-0) 3.9%
Attica Seneca East (4-0) 3.8%
Archbold (4-0) 2.5%
Glouster Trimble (4-0) 2.0%
Jeromesville Hillsdale (4-0) 2.0%
Columbus Grandview Heights (4-0) 1.7%
Lima Central Catholic (3-1) 1.3%
Covington (2-2) 1.2%
Galion Northmor (4-0) 1.1%
Bainbridge Paint Valley (3-1) 0.7%
Howard East Knox (4-0) 0.6%
Brookfield (3-1) 0.5%
Salineville Southern (4-0) 0.4%
Frankfort Adena (3-1) 0.3%
Miamisburg Dayton Christian (4-0) 0.3%
Chillicothe Southeastern (4-0) 0.3%
Harrod Allen East (4-0) 0.3%
North Robinson Colonel Crawford (3-1) 0.2%
Berlin Center Western Reserve (3-1) 0.2%
Dalton (3-1) 0.2%
Lucasville Valley (3-1) 0.1%
Division 7
Maria Stein Marion Local (3-1) 23%
McComb (4-0) 12%
Fort Loramie (3-1) 9.8%
Hamler Patrick Henry (3-1) 8.5%
Leipsic (4-0) 8.3%
Canal Winchester Harvest Prep (3-1) 8.2%
Shadyside (2-2) 5.0%
Edgerton (4-0) 4.5%
Cuyahoga Heights (2-1) 3.6%
New Bremen (3-1) 3.6%
Norwalk St Paul (4-0) 3.4%
Lucas (3-1) 2.0%
Louisville St Thomas Aquinas (3-1) 1.5%
Newark Catholic (2-2) 1.1%
Sarahsville Shenandoah (4-0) 1.1%
Independence (3-1) 1.1%
Warren John F Kennedy (2-2) 0.8%
McDonald (2-2) 0.6%
Pandora-Gilboa (2-2) 0.6%
Arlington (2-2) 0.4%
Steubenville Catholic Central (2-2) 0.2%
Greenwich South Central (3-1) 0.2%
Convoy Crestview (2-2) 0.2%
Waterford (3-1) 0.1%
Updated 23-Sep-2019 9:51PM
Scores & schedules courtesy of Joe Eitel
Regional champion probabilities
(teams below 0.2% not shown)
Division 1
Mentor (4-0) 16%
Lakewood St Edward (3-1) 16%
Cleveland St Ignatius (2-2) 15%
Cincinnati St Xavier (4-0) 15%
Cincinnati Elder (3-1) 7.0%
Dublin Coffman (4-0) 5.6%
Powell Olentangy Liberty (4-0) 5.2%
Springboro (4-0) 2.3%
Fairfield (4-0) 2.2%
Cincinnati Colerain (3-1) 2.0%
Hilliard Davidson (3-1) 1.7%
Springfield (3-1) 1.4%
Toledo Whitmer (4-0) 1.3%
Euclid (4-0) 1.2%
Westerville Central (4-0) 1.1%
Pickerington Central (3-1) 0.9%
Reynoldsburg (4-0) 0.7%
Clayton Northmont (2-2) 0.6%
West Chester Lakota West (3-1) 0.5%
Hilliard Darby (3-1) 0.5%
Dublin Jerome (3-1) 0.4%
Strongsville (4-0) 0.4%
Canton McKinley (3-1) 0.3%
Stow-Munroe Falls (3-1) 0.3%
Medina (3-1) 0.2%
Division 2
Massillon Washington (4-0) 25%
Cincinnati La Salle (4-0) 21%
Akron Archbishop Hoban (3-1) 13%
Cincinnati Winton Woods (4-0) 11%
Avon (4-0) 5.3%
Toledo Central Catholic (4-0) 4.7%
Whitehouse Anthony Wayne (4-0) 3.1%
Cleveland Benedictine (4-0) 2.2%
Cincinnati Turpin (4-0) 2.1%
Westerville South (4-0) 2.0%
Mayfield (4-0) 2.0%
Lewis Center Olentangy (2-2) 1.2%
Olmsted Falls (4-0) 1.0%
Avon Lake (3-1) 1.0%
Uniontown Lake (4-0) 0.8%
Columbus St Francis DeSales (3-1) 0.5%
Wadsworth (2-2) 0.4%
Harrison (3-1) 0.4%
Amherst Steele (4-0) 0.4%
Barberton (3-1) 0.3%
Massillon Perry (3-1) 0.3%
Austintown-Fitch (3-1) 0.3%
Maple Heights (3-1) 0.3%
Canal Winchester (4-0) 0.3%
Toledo St Francis de Sales (3-1) 0.2%
Warren G Harding (2-2) 0.2%
North Canton Hoover (3-1) 0.2%
Brecksville-Broadview Heights (2-2) 0.2%
Troy (3-1) 0.1%
Division 3
Columbus Bishop Hartley (4-0) 12%
Steubenville (3-1) 11%
Wapakoneta (4-0) 7.5%
Zanesville (4-0) 6.3%
New Philadelphia (4-0) 5.8%
Trotwood-Madison (3-1) 5.5%
Kettering Archbishop Alter (3-1) 5.1%
Granville (4-0) 5.0%
Sandusky (4-0) 4.6%
Columbus Bishop Watterson (4-0) 4.3%
Chagrin Falls Kenston (4-0) 4.2%
Akron St Vincent-St Mary (3-1) 3.6%
Tiffin Columbian (4-0) 2.7%
Aurora (4-0) 2.4%
Dover (3-1) 2.3%
Mansfield (4-0) 2.1%
Chardon (3-1) 1.6%
Dayton Chaminade Julienne (3-1) 1.4%
Plain City Jonathan Alder (4-0) 1.1%
Richfield Revere (3-1) 1.0%
London (4-0) 1.0%
Niles McKinley (4-0) 1.0%
Norwalk (3-1) 0.9%
Medina Buckeye (3-1) 0.9%
Cincinnati Mount Healthy (2-2) 0.7%
Franklin (3-1) 0.5%
Dresden Tri-Valley (3-1) 0.4%
Louisville (2-2) 0.4%
Franklin Bishop Fenwick (2-2) 0.4%
Jackson (4-0) 0.4%
St Marys Memorial (2-2) 0.4%
Bay Village Bay (3-1) 0.3%
Parma Heights Holy Name (3-1) 0.3%
Akron Coventry (4-0) 0.3%
Hamilton Ross (3-1) 0.2%
Ravenna (4-0) 0.2%
Hamilton Badin (2-2) 0.2%
Lima Shawnee (3-1) 0.2%
Streetsboro (4-0) 0.2%
Thornville Sheridan (3-1) 0.2%
Cleveland Glenville (1-3) 0.1%
Chardon Notre Dame-Cathedral Latin (2-2) 0.1%
Division 4
Perry (4-0) 19%
Cincinnati Wyoming (4-0) 17%
Newark Licking Valley (4-0) 14%
Gnadenhutten Indian Valley (4-0) 5.7%
Bellville Clear Fork (3-1) 4.2%
St Clairsville (4-0) 3.3%
Clarksville Clinton-Massie (3-1) 3.1%
Germantown Valley View (4-0) 3.0%
Mentor Lake Catholic (2-2) 2.5%
Girard (4-0) 2.2%
Bellevue (3-1) 2.2%
Clyde (3-1) 2.2%
Wintersville Indian Creek (3-1) 1.7%
Hubbard (3-1) 1.7%
Ottawa-Glandorf (3-1) 1.7%
Cuyahoga Falls Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy (3-1) 1.5%
Youngstown Cardinal Mooney (2-2) 1.4%
Kenton (3-1) 1.1%
Shelby (3-1) 1.1%
Wauseon (4-0) 1.1%
Canal Fulton Northwest (4-0) 1.1%
Galion (4-0) 1.0%
Cincinnati Archbishop McNicholas (3-1) 0.9%
Van Wert (2-2) 0.8%
Poland Seminary (2-2) 0.8%
Cincinnati Indian Hill (3-1) 0.6%
West Milton Milton-Union (4-0) 0.6%
Columbus Marion-Franklin (2-2) 0.4%
Bloom-Carroll (3-1) 0.4%
Heath (3-1) 0.3%
Struthers (2-2) 0.3%
Gallipolis Gallia Academy (4-0) 0.3%
Salem (4-0) 0.3%
La Grange Keystone (3-1) 0.2%
St Bernard Roger Bacon (3-1) 0.2%
Sandusky Perkins (3-1) 0.2%
Huron (3-1) 0.2%
Waynesville (3-1) 0.2%
Division 5
Kirtland (4-0) 40%
Orrville (4-0) 12%
Pemberville Eastwood (4-0) 5.9%
West Jefferson (4-0) 4.7%
Ironton (3-1) 4.2%
Oak Harbor (4-0) 4.0%
Amanda-Clearcreek (4-0) 2.5%
Cincinnati Taft (3-1) 2.4%
Cincinnati Hills Christian Academy (3-1) 2.0%
West Lafayette Ridgewood (4-0) 1.8%
Rootstown (4-0) 1.8%
Johnstown-Monroe (1-3) 1.7%
Marion Pleasant (3-1) 1.7%
Cincinnati Madeira (4-0) 1.6%
Gahanna Columbus Academy (2-2) 1.4%
Akron Manchester (3-1) 1.3%
Wheelersburg (2-2) 1.2%
West Liberty-Salem (4-0) 1.1%
Elyria Catholic (2-2) 0.7%
Minford (4-0) 0.7%
Canfield South Range (2-2) 0.7%
Sugarcreek Garaway (4-0) 0.7%
Springfield Shawnee (3-1) 0.6%
Portsmouth (4-0) 0.6%
Mantua Crestwood (4-0) 0.6%
Garrettsville Garfield (4-0) 0.5%
Tontogany Otsego (3-1) 0.5%
Findlay Liberty-Benton (3-1) 0.4%
Middletown Madison (2-2) 0.4%
Columbus Bishop Ready (2-2) 0.4%
Northwood (4-0) 0.4%
Canton Central Catholic (2-2) 0.3%
Cincinnati Mariemont (4-0) 0.3%
Richwood North Union (2-2) 0.3%
Magnolia Sandy Valley (3-1) 0.2%
Brookville (3-1) 0.2%
Lewistown Indian Lake (3-1) 0.2%
Division 6
Coldwater (4-0) 33%
Anna (4-0) 14%
New Middletown Springfield (4-0) 7.3%
Minster (3-1) 5.3%
Mogadore (3-1) 5.1%
Mechanicsburg (4-0) 5.0%
Beverly Fort Frye (4-0) 4.8%
Liberty Center (4-0) 3.9%
Attica Seneca East (4-0) 3.8%
Archbold (4-0) 2.5%
Glouster Trimble (4-0) 2.0%
Jeromesville Hillsdale (4-0) 2.0%
Columbus Grandview Heights (4-0) 1.7%
Lima Central Catholic (3-1) 1.3%
Covington (2-2) 1.2%
Galion Northmor (4-0) 1.1%
Bainbridge Paint Valley (3-1) 0.7%
Howard East Knox (4-0) 0.6%
Brookfield (3-1) 0.5%
Salineville Southern (4-0) 0.4%
Frankfort Adena (3-1) 0.3%
Miamisburg Dayton Christian (4-0) 0.3%
Chillicothe Southeastern (4-0) 0.3%
Harrod Allen East (4-0) 0.3%
North Robinson Colonel Crawford (3-1) 0.2%
Berlin Center Western Reserve (3-1) 0.2%
Dalton (3-1) 0.2%
Lucasville Valley (3-1) 0.1%
Division 7
Maria Stein Marion Local (3-1) 23%
McComb (4-0) 12%
Fort Loramie (3-1) 9.8%
Hamler Patrick Henry (3-1) 8.5%
Leipsic (4-0) 8.3%
Canal Winchester Harvest Prep (3-1) 8.2%
Shadyside (2-2) 5.0%
Edgerton (4-0) 4.5%
Cuyahoga Heights (2-1) 3.6%
New Bremen (3-1) 3.6%
Norwalk St Paul (4-0) 3.4%
Lucas (3-1) 2.0%
Louisville St Thomas Aquinas (3-1) 1.5%
Newark Catholic (2-2) 1.1%
Sarahsville Shenandoah (4-0) 1.1%
Independence (3-1) 1.1%
Warren John F Kennedy (2-2) 0.8%
McDonald (2-2) 0.6%
Pandora-Gilboa (2-2) 0.6%
Arlington (2-2) 0.4%
Steubenville Catholic Central (2-2) 0.2%
Greenwich South Central (3-1) 0.2%
Convoy Crestview (2-2) 0.2%
Waterford (3-1) 0.1%
The Fantastic 50 OHSAA teams
Updated 23-Sep-2019 9:51PM
Scores & schedules courtesy of Joe Eitel
Props to the Federal League, getting 4 teams in the Top 50 is quite an achievement, especially when 20% of the top 50 is comprised of private schools!
#1 Mentor (4-0 D1 R1)
#2 Cincinnati St Xavier (4-0 D1 R4)
#3 Lakewood St Edward (3-1 D1 R1)
#4 Cleveland St Ignatius (2-2 D1 R1)
#5 Massillon Washington (4-0 D2 R5)
#6 Dublin Coffman (4-0 D1 R2)
#7 Akron Archbishop Hoban (3-1 D2 R5)
#8 Powell Olentangy Liberty (4-0 D1 R3)
#9 Cincinnati Winton Woods (4-0 D2 R8)
#10 Cincinnati La Salle (4-0 D2 R8)
#11 Fairfield (4-0 D1 R4)
#12 Cincinnati Colerain (3-1 D1 R4)
#13 Cincinnati Elder (3-1 D1 R4)
#14 Euclid (4-0 D1 R1)
#15 Springboro (4-0 D1 R2)
#16 Hilliard Davidson (3-1 D1 R3)
#17 Springfield (3-1 D1 R2)
#18 Toledo Whitmer (4-0 D1 R2)
#19 Avon (4-0 D2 R6)
#20 Westerville Central (4-0 D1 R3)
#21 Toledo Central Catholic (4-0 D2 R7)
#22 Pickerington Central (3-1 D1 R3)
#23 West Chester Lakota West (3-1 D1 R4)
#24 Medina (3-1 D1 R1)
#25 Mayfield (4-0 D2 R5)
#26 Canton McKinley (3-1 D1 R1)
#27 Stow-Munroe Falls (3-1 D1 R1)
#28 Columbus Bishop Hartley (4-0 D3 R11)
#29 Reynoldsburg (4-0 D1 R3)
#30 Whitehouse Anthony Wayne (4-0 D2 R7)
#31 Strongsville (4-0 D1 R1)
#32 Cincinnati Turpin (4-0 D2 R8)
#33 Coldwater (4-0 D6 R23)
#34 Kirtland (4-0 D5 R17)
#35 Clayton Northmont (2-2 D1 R2)
#36 Hilliard Darby (3-1 D1 R3)
#37 Dublin Jerome (3-1 D1 R2)
#38 Cincinnati Sycamore (3-1 D1 R4)
#39 Cleveland Benedictine (4-0 D2 R6)
#40 Perry (4-0 D4 R13)
#41 Solon (3-1 D1 R1)
#42 Westerville South (4-0 D2 R7)
#43 Wapakoneta (4-0 D3 R12)
#44 Akron St Vincent-St Mary (3-1 D3 R9)
#45 Cincinnati Wyoming (4-0 D4 R16)
#46 Massillon Jackson (3-1 D1 R1)
#47 Trotwood-Madison (3-1 D3 R12)
#48 Granville (4-0 D3 R11)
#49 Uniontown Lake (4-0 D2 R5)
#50 Columbus Bishop Watterson (4-0 D3
Updated 23-Sep-2019 9:51PM
Scores & schedules courtesy of Joe Eitel
Props to the Federal League, getting 4 teams in the Top 50 is quite an achievement, especially when 20% of the top 50 is comprised of private schools!
#1 Mentor (4-0 D1 R1)
#2 Cincinnati St Xavier (4-0 D1 R4)
#3 Lakewood St Edward (3-1 D1 R1)
#4 Cleveland St Ignatius (2-2 D1 R1)
#5 Massillon Washington (4-0 D2 R5)
#6 Dublin Coffman (4-0 D1 R2)
#7 Akron Archbishop Hoban (3-1 D2 R5)
#8 Powell Olentangy Liberty (4-0 D1 R3)
#9 Cincinnati Winton Woods (4-0 D2 R8)
#10 Cincinnati La Salle (4-0 D2 R8)
#11 Fairfield (4-0 D1 R4)
#12 Cincinnati Colerain (3-1 D1 R4)
#13 Cincinnati Elder (3-1 D1 R4)
#14 Euclid (4-0 D1 R1)
#15 Springboro (4-0 D1 R2)
#16 Hilliard Davidson (3-1 D1 R3)
#17 Springfield (3-1 D1 R2)
#18 Toledo Whitmer (4-0 D1 R2)
#19 Avon (4-0 D2 R6)
#20 Westerville Central (4-0 D1 R3)
#21 Toledo Central Catholic (4-0 D2 R7)
#22 Pickerington Central (3-1 D1 R3)
#23 West Chester Lakota West (3-1 D1 R4)
#24 Medina (3-1 D1 R1)
#25 Mayfield (4-0 D2 R5)
#26 Canton McKinley (3-1 D1 R1)
#27 Stow-Munroe Falls (3-1 D1 R1)
#28 Columbus Bishop Hartley (4-0 D3 R11)
#29 Reynoldsburg (4-0 D1 R3)
#30 Whitehouse Anthony Wayne (4-0 D2 R7)
#31 Strongsville (4-0 D1 R1)
#32 Cincinnati Turpin (4-0 D2 R8)
#33 Coldwater (4-0 D6 R23)
#34 Kirtland (4-0 D5 R17)
#35 Clayton Northmont (2-2 D1 R2)
#36 Hilliard Darby (3-1 D1 R3)
#37 Dublin Jerome (3-1 D1 R2)
#38 Cincinnati Sycamore (3-1 D1 R4)
#39 Cleveland Benedictine (4-0 D2 R6)
#40 Perry (4-0 D4 R13)
#41 Solon (3-1 D1 R1)
#42 Westerville South (4-0 D2 R7)
#43 Wapakoneta (4-0 D3 R12)
#44 Akron St Vincent-St Mary (3-1 D3 R9)
#45 Cincinnati Wyoming (4-0 D4 R16)
#46 Massillon Jackson (3-1 D1 R1)
#47 Trotwood-Madison (3-1 D3 R12)
#48 Granville (4-0 D3 R11)
#49 Uniontown Lake (4-0 D2 R5)
#50 Columbus Bishop Watterson (4-0 D3
Predictions for week #5
Computer Generated
Akron Manchester (3-1 D5 R17) by 15 (80%) vs Massillon Tuslaw (2-2 D5 R17)
Alliance Marlington (2-2 D3 R9) by 20 (87%) at Carrollton (0-4 D4 R13)
Canfield (2-2 D3 R9) by 6 (64%) vs Alliance (2-2 D2 R5)
Canton GlenOak (1-3 D1 R1) by 1 (52%) at Uniontown Green (1-3 D2 R6)
#26 Canton McKinley (3-1 D1 R1) by 10 (71%) at North Canton Hoover (3-1 D2 R5)
Cuyahoga Falls Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy (3-1 D4 R13) by 14 (79%) at Navarre Fairless (2-2 D4 R13)
Malvern (2-2 D7 R25) by 2 (54%) vs Zoarville Tuscarawas Valley (1-3 D6 R21)
Massillon Perry (3-1 D2 R5) by 3 (56%) at Louisville (2-2 D3 R9)
#5 Massillon Washington (4-0 D2 R5) by 44 (99%) vs Akron Firestone (0-4 D2 R5)
New Philadelphia (4-0 D3 R9) by 23 (90%) vs Canton Central Catholic (2-2 D5 R17)
Orrville (4-0 D5 R18) by 10 (72%) at Canal Fulton Northwest (4-0 D4 R14)
Rootstown (4-0 D5 R17) by 11 (74%) at Louisville St Thomas Aquinas (3-1 D7 R25)
Salem (4-0 D4 R13) by 19 (87%) vs Canton South (2-2 D4 R13)
Magnolia Sandy Valley (3-1 D5 R17) by 29 (95%) vs Uhrichsville Claymont (0-4 D4 R15)
Strasburg-Franklin (2-2 D7 R25) by 1 (50%) vs Newcomerstown (2-2 D6 R21)
Struthers (2-2 D4 R13) by 12 (74%) at Cortland Lakeview (1-3 D4 R13)
Sugarcreek Garaway (4-0 D5 R17) by 17 (84%) at East Canton (2-2 D6 R21)
#49 Uniontown Lake (4-0 D2 R5) by 1 (52%) vs #46 Massillon Jackson (3-1 D1 R1)
Beloit West Branch (0-4 D3 R9) by 21 (88%) vs Minerva (0-4 D4 R13)
Wooster Triway (2-2 D4 R14) by 9 (69%) vs Loudonville (1-3 D6 R22)
Prediction Results
Week #1: 250-91 (73.3%)
Week #2: 259-83 (75.7%)
Week #3: 267-71 (79.0%)
Week #4: 270-72 (78.9%)
Computer Generated
Akron Manchester (3-1 D5 R17) by 15 (80%) vs Massillon Tuslaw (2-2 D5 R17)
Alliance Marlington (2-2 D3 R9) by 20 (87%) at Carrollton (0-4 D4 R13)
Canfield (2-2 D3 R9) by 6 (64%) vs Alliance (2-2 D2 R5)
Canton GlenOak (1-3 D1 R1) by 1 (52%) at Uniontown Green (1-3 D2 R6)
#26 Canton McKinley (3-1 D1 R1) by 10 (71%) at North Canton Hoover (3-1 D2 R5)
Cuyahoga Falls Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy (3-1 D4 R13) by 14 (79%) at Navarre Fairless (2-2 D4 R13)
Malvern (2-2 D7 R25) by 2 (54%) vs Zoarville Tuscarawas Valley (1-3 D6 R21)
Massillon Perry (3-1 D2 R5) by 3 (56%) at Louisville (2-2 D3 R9)
#5 Massillon Washington (4-0 D2 R5) by 44 (99%) vs Akron Firestone (0-4 D2 R5)
New Philadelphia (4-0 D3 R9) by 23 (90%) vs Canton Central Catholic (2-2 D5 R17)
Orrville (4-0 D5 R18) by 10 (72%) at Canal Fulton Northwest (4-0 D4 R14)
Rootstown (4-0 D5 R17) by 11 (74%) at Louisville St Thomas Aquinas (3-1 D7 R25)
Salem (4-0 D4 R13) by 19 (87%) vs Canton South (2-2 D4 R13)
Magnolia Sandy Valley (3-1 D5 R17) by 29 (95%) vs Uhrichsville Claymont (0-4 D4 R15)
Strasburg-Franklin (2-2 D7 R25) by 1 (50%) vs Newcomerstown (2-2 D6 R21)
Struthers (2-2 D4 R13) by 12 (74%) at Cortland Lakeview (1-3 D4 R13)
Sugarcreek Garaway (4-0 D5 R17) by 17 (84%) at East Canton (2-2 D6 R21)
#49 Uniontown Lake (4-0 D2 R5) by 1 (52%) vs #46 Massillon Jackson (3-1 D1 R1)
Beloit West Branch (0-4 D3 R9) by 21 (88%) vs Minerva (0-4 D4 R13)
Wooster Triway (2-2 D4 R14) by 9 (69%) vs Loudonville (1-3 D6 R22)
Prediction Results
Week #1: 250-91 (73.3%)
Week #2: 259-83 (75.7%)
Week #3: 267-71 (79.0%)
Week #4: 270-72 (78.9%)
Mackinbiner
Well-known member
Long time? You have a short memory.
Just 2 years ago Jackson started 3-1, like this year, and got to 5-1
And just 3 years ago the Bears started 6-0.
Stereotypes are hard to break.
Maxie
🏈 2023 State Champions——16-0
#40 Perry is not Massillon Perry. It is located in Lake County.
Egret
Well-known member
Sorry. I'm not online to high school web-sites 7x24 to know all this. And following Jackson's record the last four years isn't on my daily agenda. But thanks for correcting me.
Mackinbiner
Well-known member
Algorithm Strength of Schedule (games played)
Mass 24.6
Jackson 22.6
McK 20.5
GO 20.2
Perry 17.7
Alliance 16.1
Lou 16.0
Green 10.6
Carrollton 10.0
Fairless 8.1
Marlington 7.3
CCC 6.1
Lake 2.9
Tuslaw 2.0
Hoover -0.8
Sandy Valley -2.6
Minerva -7.3
E Canton -9.4
STA -13.4
CSouth -14.5
NW -15.9
Mass 24.6
Jackson 22.6
McK 20.5
GO 20.2
Perry 17.7
Alliance 16.1
Lou 16.0
Green 10.6
Carrollton 10.0
Fairless 8.1
Marlington 7.3
CCC 6.1
Lake 2.9
Tuslaw 2.0
Hoover -0.8
Sandy Valley -2.6
Minerva -7.3
E Canton -9.4
STA -13.4
CSouth -14.5
NW -15.9
Starkcountylegend
Well-known member
The teams you have beaten are a combined 10-7, and the teams McKinley has beaten are 9-7! So, using Massilon moronic logic, this leads to the conclusion that Massillon has played a vastly superior schedule? Im telling you, the Massillon school system has failed many in that community!
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Starkcountylegend
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Quite hypocritical of any Massillon fan to be calling out other programs, when in fact, you cant even control your own school administrator from threatening refs, or contain the adult fans that feel the need to come to the game intoxicated and then go onto to the field and threaten refs, yes, they are adults in the 40's in Massillon showing up intoxicated to high school games!. Let Massillon get a handle on the circus they have going on, before trying to address other neighboring schools discipline problems, as one of the greatest coaches in Stark County Wakefield said, theres a whole lot of stuff going on over at Massillon. Surely, he hit the nail on the head with such a true and accurate comment. Take away the large number of starters for your football team that were recruited into play, and the team becomes a 5 or 6 win team if they had to play Massillon kids instead of the transfers! Surely, kids are not transferring into Massillon for the academic program that the state had to take over!
Egret
Well-known member
Recollecting. Just don't remember it. Once again, don't spend every waking hour on a high school web-site.
longtime1sttime
Well-known member
5 Things to Watch: McKinley at Hoover
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5 Things to Watch: McKinley at Hoover
McKinley travels to North Canton's Memorial Stadium on Friday to take on Hoover in an intriguing matchup of last year's Federal League co-champs. Here are five things to watch:
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JJBulldog
Well-known member
In one sense you are right. Privates recruit. They have a built-in advantage in larger cities when they have established programs. We take whatever we have in our district and do the best we can with it. However, Canton, from time to time, has very good athletes in numbers St V can't match.Cases in point- two of our State Champions were nationally ranked #1 and #2. St. V' s very best football teams are never even in that conversation. Because they recruit greater Akron, St V has a more consistent quality
This year, we have the kind of size, talent, and depth St. V can't match. And our coach left St. V to be a defensive assistant @Akron U. for coach Bowden. . Only the very best McKinley coaches have coached in the college ranks. His assistants are very impressive.
If you have a different perspective, I am fine with that. But I would suggest you respect my informed opinion as well, as I'm pretty sure you have never played the game yourself. That's why you judge him superficially like some of the knuckleheads that post about us from Massillon based upon early season results you've heard about, not the progress I've witnessed in person. What do you know about conditioning and lifting techniques, because the improvement there is epic. That's coaching JAF.. This week in practice, McKinley is already a lot better than even two weeks ago. Such is a learning curve with teenagers. They learn and mature more readily under coaches who have the right skill-sets, and Coach Wattley has them all. He is taking us back to statewide prestige one week at a time.
Btw Euclid would beat every team on Massillon's schedule. Two weeks ago, they escaped the best one by far. We have already improved big time since that loss. The things we did wrong were all correctable, because the talent/coaching combo exists @ Canton McKinley.
I would add Coach Wattley frankly doesn't care what either of us think of his abilities or anyone else on this board. He is far too busy coaching and being a father to bother reading a message board full of multiple screen -named loonies and people with other social issues.
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Raylan_Givens
Always right, unless I'm wrong
Interesting that Northwest has the weakest SOS to this point in season in Stark Co by the computer & yet “ranked” a top 10 team by people.
Yep, you're right, damn gotta proof read a little better!
True, sometimes these algorithms see some things that we dont see, and sometimes they are just wacked out. NW's four opponents to date have a combined record of 6-10, which includes Claymont going 0-4. If you look a little deeper, the six second level wins by NW's opponents, they are against opponents that have a combined 3-21 record. That is probably the basis for the low rating, surely, NW's SOS will increase after Orrville this week and CVCA next week.
Maxie
🏈 2023 State Champions——16-0
Kudos to you for providing everyone with this information.
Benchboss1
Well-known member
You sure do spew this crap incessantly, but you never back it up with any proof. Please provide some proof next time you hurl accusations like that. If you have no proof, how about shutting your pie hole????
Key games for week 5
Updated 23-Sep-2019 9:51PM
Scores & schedules courtesy of Joe Eitel
Biggest games statewide (come on now I would take Jackson-Lake or Hoover-McK over a couple of these)
1) #3 Lakewood St Edward (3-1) at #9 Cincinnati Winton Woods (4-0)
2) #44 Akron St Vincent-St Mary (3-1) at #7 Akron Archbishop Hoban (3-1) (Good gauge on the difference between Massillon and Hoban, Tigers set the bar high with a 30 point win over STV)
3) #24 Medina (3-1) at #1 Mentor (4-0)
4) #11 Fairfield (4-0) at #23 West Chester Lakota West (3-1)
5) Clarksville Clinton-Massie (3-1) at #28 Columbus Bishop Hartley (4-0)
6) #16 Hilliard Davidson (3-1) at #22 Pickerington Central (3-1)
7) Maria Stein Marion Local (3-1) at Anna (4-0)
8) Cincinnati Archbishop Moeller (1-3) neutral vs #2 Cincinnati St Xavier (4-0)(Was shocked to see that Moeller has been shut out and routed three times this year, my have times changed)
9) Groveport Madison (4-0) at #8 Powell Olentangy Liberty (4-0)
10) Pickerington North (1-3) at #6 Dublin Coffman (4-0)
11) Chardon (3-1) at #25 Mayfield (4-0)
12) #35 Clayton Northmont (2-2) at #47 Trotwood-Madison (3-1)
Games with biggest playoff implications (Looks like Alumni Field get number #1 billing in Ohio for computer points this week)
1) Massillon Jackson (3-1 D1 R1) at Uniontown Lake (4-0 D2 R5)
2) Independence (3-1 D7 R25) at Beachwood (3-1 D5 R18)
3) Marion Pleasant (3-1 D5 R18) at Shelby (3-1 D4 R14)
4) Cincinnati Indian Hill (3-1 D4 R16) at Cincinnati Madeira (4-0 D5 R20)
5) Gahanna Columbus Academy (2-2 D5 R19) at Canal Winchester Harvest Prep (3-1 D7 R27)
6) Clayton Northmont (2-2 D1 R2) at Trotwood-Madison (3-1 D3 R12)
7) Collins Western Reserve (3-1 D6 R22) at Plymouth (3-1 D7 R26)
8) Columbus Bishop Watterson (4-0 D3 R11) at Dayton Chaminade Julienne (3-1 D3 R12)
9) Chillicothe Unioto (3-1 D3 R11) at Frankfort Adena (3-1 D6 R24)
10) Cleveland Benedictine (4-0 D2 R6) at Austintown-Fitch (3-1 D2 R5)
11) Bellbrook (3-1 D3 R11) at Franklin (3-1 D3 R12)
12) Cambridge (2-2 D4 R15) at Bellaire (3-1 D5 R17)
13) Lakewood St Edward (3-1 D1 R1) at Cincinnati Winton Woods (4-0 D2 R8)
14) West Milton Milton-Union (4-0 D4 R16) at Middletown Madison (2-2 D5 R20)
15) Berlin Center Western Reserve (3-1 D6 R21) at McDonald (2-2 D7 R25)
16) Brecksville-Broadview Heights (2-2 D2 R6) at Hudson (2-2 D2 R5)
17) Portsmouth (4-0 D5 R19) at Gallipolis Gallia Academy (4-0 D4 R15)
18) Streetsboro (4-0 D3 R9) at Ravenna (4-0 D3 R9)
19) Lockland (2-2 D7 R28) at Cincinnati College Prep (3-1 D7 R28)
20) Lewis Center Olentangy (2-2 D2 R7) at New Albany (3-1 D1 R3)
21) Girard (4-0 D4 R13) at Canfield South Range (2-2 D5 R17)
22) Massillon Perry (3-1 D2 R5) at Louisville (2-2 D3 R9)(Wow, can't wait for this one, two teams playing for their playoff lives, the loser is probably most likely on life support to making the playoffs)
23) Columbus Grandview Heights (4-0 D6 R24) at Whitehall-Yearling (1-3 D2 R8)
24) Cincinnati Mount Healthy (2-2 D3 R12) at Hamilton Ross (3-1 D3 R12)
25) Vandalia Butler (2-2 D3 R12) at Piqua (2-2 D2 R7)
Updated 23-Sep-2019 9:51PM
Scores & schedules courtesy of Joe Eitel
Biggest games statewide (come on now I would take Jackson-Lake or Hoover-McK over a couple of these)
1) #3 Lakewood St Edward (3-1) at #9 Cincinnati Winton Woods (4-0)
2) #44 Akron St Vincent-St Mary (3-1) at #7 Akron Archbishop Hoban (3-1) (Good gauge on the difference between Massillon and Hoban, Tigers set the bar high with a 30 point win over STV)
3) #24 Medina (3-1) at #1 Mentor (4-0)
4) #11 Fairfield (4-0) at #23 West Chester Lakota West (3-1)
5) Clarksville Clinton-Massie (3-1) at #28 Columbus Bishop Hartley (4-0)
6) #16 Hilliard Davidson (3-1) at #22 Pickerington Central (3-1)
7) Maria Stein Marion Local (3-1) at Anna (4-0)
8) Cincinnati Archbishop Moeller (1-3) neutral vs #2 Cincinnati St Xavier (4-0)(Was shocked to see that Moeller has been shut out and routed three times this year, my have times changed)
9) Groveport Madison (4-0) at #8 Powell Olentangy Liberty (4-0)
10) Pickerington North (1-3) at #6 Dublin Coffman (4-0)
11) Chardon (3-1) at #25 Mayfield (4-0)
12) #35 Clayton Northmont (2-2) at #47 Trotwood-Madison (3-1)
Games with biggest playoff implications (Looks like Alumni Field get number #1 billing in Ohio for computer points this week)
1) Massillon Jackson (3-1 D1 R1) at Uniontown Lake (4-0 D2 R5)
2) Independence (3-1 D7 R25) at Beachwood (3-1 D5 R18)
3) Marion Pleasant (3-1 D5 R18) at Shelby (3-1 D4 R14)
4) Cincinnati Indian Hill (3-1 D4 R16) at Cincinnati Madeira (4-0 D5 R20)
5) Gahanna Columbus Academy (2-2 D5 R19) at Canal Winchester Harvest Prep (3-1 D7 R27)
6) Clayton Northmont (2-2 D1 R2) at Trotwood-Madison (3-1 D3 R12)
7) Collins Western Reserve (3-1 D6 R22) at Plymouth (3-1 D7 R26)
8) Columbus Bishop Watterson (4-0 D3 R11) at Dayton Chaminade Julienne (3-1 D3 R12)
9) Chillicothe Unioto (3-1 D3 R11) at Frankfort Adena (3-1 D6 R24)
10) Cleveland Benedictine (4-0 D2 R6) at Austintown-Fitch (3-1 D2 R5)
11) Bellbrook (3-1 D3 R11) at Franklin (3-1 D3 R12)
12) Cambridge (2-2 D4 R15) at Bellaire (3-1 D5 R17)
13) Lakewood St Edward (3-1 D1 R1) at Cincinnati Winton Woods (4-0 D2 R8)
14) West Milton Milton-Union (4-0 D4 R16) at Middletown Madison (2-2 D5 R20)
15) Berlin Center Western Reserve (3-1 D6 R21) at McDonald (2-2 D7 R25)
16) Brecksville-Broadview Heights (2-2 D2 R6) at Hudson (2-2 D2 R5)
17) Portsmouth (4-0 D5 R19) at Gallipolis Gallia Academy (4-0 D4 R15)
18) Streetsboro (4-0 D3 R9) at Ravenna (4-0 D3 R9)
19) Lockland (2-2 D7 R28) at Cincinnati College Prep (3-1 D7 R28)
20) Lewis Center Olentangy (2-2 D2 R7) at New Albany (3-1 D1 R3)
21) Girard (4-0 D4 R13) at Canfield South Range (2-2 D5 R17)
22) Massillon Perry (3-1 D2 R5) at Louisville (2-2 D3 R9)(Wow, can't wait for this one, two teams playing for their playoff lives, the loser is probably most likely on life support to making the playoffs)
23) Columbus Grandview Heights (4-0 D6 R24) at Whitehall-Yearling (1-3 D2 R8)
24) Cincinnati Mount Healthy (2-2 D3 R12) at Hamilton Ross (3-1 D3 R12)
25) Vandalia Butler (2-2 D3 R12) at Piqua (2-2 D2 R7)
letsgetitdone
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Benchboss1
Well-known member
More garbage spewing. You, and others, sure like to use Wakefield's quote, as a reason for most of the Fed not wanting to schedule Massillon. Maybe you should take a look at Wakefield's record against the Tigers as THE MAIN reason he does not want to schedule Massillon. While you are at it, why not look at the records of all the "non scheduling Massillon" Federal League teams, and see what their combined record is against the Tigers. Maybe, juuusssttt maybe, you will find the REAL reason they won't schedule Massillon. Heck, Massillon has already taken away one of those teams most often used "reasons" by agreeing to travel to any stadium. So now, the faithful Fed flock aimlessly follows their esteemed leader and prophet, Shephard Wakefield.
Good luck to all Stark County teams and hopefully everyone comes out injury free after Friday night.