St Ignatius Football 2021

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Chaloub played well. I thought Aerni made some nice plays.

It wasn't the defense that concerns me.

The offense, and this is my opinion as not to offend certain readers, is void of playmakers. As good as 22 is, he's not a burner and his running style tends to lead to being dinged up.
 
Yes they always play a tough schedule. Always do. But that doesn't negate my point they would be feeling better if the loss last Friday was to X. I think it's because Springfield hasn't won State and therefore still doesnt have a big, well respected name amongst the elite programs yet.
Most of these programs have had state relevance for decades. Springfield is currently relevant at that level, but it's only been for a few years. People are still getting used to it.
 
Let's revisit this Friday night. I saw two good, well coached teams last night that their fans should have confidence in. Just my opinion.
Hopefully the game happens. Don't know anything but with the amount of covid cancelations already this week, just never know.
 
Had Ignatius lost 24-20 to St Xavier the exact same way, i.e., poised to win until the final minutes, everyone would be talking about what a good team they are, how they're gonna have a great season and should beat Mentor. Well, Springfield was just 2 points away from beating X last year and they returned the entire team, and this year they have a couple of new weapons. Although it was a very tough loss, I really think Ignatius did well last week. It just seems like a shame people aren't seeing it that way.
I'm not basing off score, based off what I watched.
 
Yes they always play a tough schedule. Always do. But that doesn't negate my point they would be feeling better if the loss last Friday was to X. I think it's because Springfield hasn't won State and therefore still doesnt have a big, well respected name amongst the elite programs yet.
Eh, don't agree. See Mentor, that doesn't change our opinion when we view those game results *i.e lack of titles*. Springfield was good last year, it isnt about them, it is about the turtle speed and separation I watched AND the insane schedule that is to come.
 
Definitely a valid point. I think Ignatius fans would be reacting differently if Springfield had more name recognition and a couple titles to their name, even if it’s not necessarily rational.
Yeah, but they shouldn't look at it that way. SHS has a pretty good chance of going 10-0 which will likely have them rated #1 in the State in the AP poll and the top seed in the playoffs. I really think everyone will view the week 1 game very differently at the end of the season.
 
Eh, don't agree. See Mentor, that doesn't change our opinion when we view those game results *i.e lack of titles*. Springfield was good last year, it isnt about them, it is about the turtle speed and separation I watched AND the insane schedule that is to come.
But Ignatius may have appeared slow against SHS's explosive quick strike offense. I thought Ignatius seemed like the usual GCL South teams. They just seemed tired and worn down when the 4th qtr comeback started.
 
But Ignatius may have appeared slow against SHS's explosive quick strike offense. I thought Ignatius seemed like the usual GCL South teams. They just seemed tired and worn down when the 4th qtr comeback started.
Springfield offense has nothing to do with Ignatius speed on offense, which is what I am referring to. As far as defense, I have seen them match up many times in years past against likes of Glenville, so the defense is not my concern after week 1. Offense on the other hand, very much so
 
For the record , Ignatius can beat Mentor . I just don't see them crushing us or solidly handling us like outside fan said above. I do think Ignatius fans are panicking way too quickly
I never said crushed or solidly handling. Just soundly. It's important to remember that late in the game, Ignatius had a double digit lead, possession and were in clock eating mode before the comeback started. And, not many teams will be able to pullout the comeback SHS did. I expect that against other opponents in that situation, Ignatius would win.
 
I never said crushed or solidly handling. Just soundly. It's important to remember that late in the game, Ignatius had a double digit lead, possession and were in clock eating mode before the comeback started. And, not many teams will be able to pullout the comeback SHS did. I expect that against other opponents in that situation, Ignatius would win.
Still doubt it. I expect Mentor to win and Ignatius winning would be an upset. I don't see an Ignatius win being a wide margin at all if it happens. If it's a blowout ( which I doubt) I think Mentor will be the victor

Springfield has been solid for a few years but I think you overrate them a bit based just on staying close with X in one game. Almost beating Springfield doesn't make a team a world beaters by any means. I saw iggy fans saying that Springfield team wasn't impressive and didn't look top 5 in D1
 
Most of these programs have had state relevance for decades. Springfield is currently relevant at that level, but it's only been for a few years. People are still getting used to it.
That, coupled with how bad SHS was before Douglass. But it's really not fair to the Ignatius players to judge their loss based off name recognition and playoffs history. I think Ignatius had a pretty good team that suffered a very painful, tough loss last week to a very good team who had the weapons and experience to pulloff a comeback for the ages. It's very possible that by end of the regular season, Ignatius' game was the closest SHS came to losing.
 
Still doubt it. I expect Mentor to win and Ignatius winning would be an upset. I don't see an Ignatius win being a wide margin at all if it happens. If it's a blowout ( which I doubt) I think Mentor will be the victor
Yes, on paper Mentor is the favorite to win m and I never said Ignatius would win by a wide margin. But I think they will win because they will take out their frustration about last week's stinging loss on Mentor.
 
Yes, on paper Mentor is the favorite to win m and I never said Ignatius would win by a wide margin. But I think they will win because they will take out their frustration about last week's stinging loss on Mentor.
Again you overrate Springfield on here quite a bit. I don't think almost beating them means you are elite.

I always count on iggy to be a challenge. It really has nothing to do with Springfield.
 
Again you overrate Springfield on here quite a bit. I don't think almost beating them means you are elite.

I always count on iggy to be a challenge. It really has nothing to do with Springfield.
How am I overrating Springfield? I just think that often times after a tough loss like that, a team takes it out on the next team. If anything, I think Ignatius will view Mentor as equivalent to SHS since both went to the final 4 the past 2 years. So, they will want to knock Mentor off their perch at home the way they feel they should have last week.
 
How am I overrating Springfield? I just think that often times after a tough loss like that, a team takes it out on the next team. If anything, I think Ignatius will view Mentor as equivalent to SHS since both went to the final 4 the past 2 years. So, they will want to knock Mentor off their perch at home the way they feel they should have last week.
Im sure Ignatius always wants to beat Mentor. Really has nothing to do with Springfield

Also region 2 is the weakest region in most years so you haven't exactly had the road to the final 4 that Mentor has done. It's not really comparable .
 
Im sure Ignatius always wants to beat Mentor. Really has nothing to do with Springfield

Also region 2 is the weakest region in most years so you haven't exactly had the road to the final 4 that Mentor has done. It's not really comparable .
That's not true either. Region 2 is tough now since they added all of Dayton and NW Columbus suburbs. Last year, Dublin Coffman was undefeated, rated #2 in the State and were the top seed in R2. And, last year, SHS gave the 2d best performance in the State tournament barely losing to the State champions by 2 points because of a missed FG. But Mentor lost to a team that got thoroughly embarrassed before halftime. The year before that, SHS and Mentor both lost state semifinals by 1 TD late in the 4th qtr, and the state championship game was also decided by 1 TD late in the 4th qtr. And I still think Ignatius will take their frustrations about last week out on Mentor. Let's revisit this Friday night.
 
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That's not true either. Region 2 is tough now since they added all of Dayton and NW Columbus suburbs. Last year, Dublin Coffman was undefeated, rated #2 in the State and were the top seed in R2. And I still think Ignatius will take their frustrations about last week out on Mentor. Let's revisit this Friday night.
Dublin Coffman wasn't a top 2 team in the state. You are out of your mind if you think region 2 stacks up to Region 1 in most years. You have no private schools to go through and usually 2 legit schools at all.

I doubt you'll be back to revisit if Mentor beats Ignatius . Iggy fans , you can have this booster joker and your discussion on your team back ?
 
How am I overrating Springfield? I just think that often times after a tough loss like that, a team takes it out on the next team. If anything, I think Ignatius will view Mentor as equivalent to SHS since both went to the final 4 the past 2 years. So, they will want to knock Mentor off their perch at home the way they feel they should have last week.
Springfield has nothing to do with how Ignatius views Mentor. The games and rivalry over the years itself have taken care of how this series is viewed. Right, wrong, or indifferent, those are just the facts. I was not terribly impressed by Springfield. That doesn't mean they won't run the table etc. I want to see what mentor, X, Hoban, Mueller, Ed's etc look like and then I will rank who I think fits where. Until Mentor regressed, they are a standard bearer in NEO and the state alongside Ed's and X
 
That's not true either. Region 2 is tough now since they added all of Dayton and NW Columbus suburbs. Last year, Dublin Coffman was undefeated, rated #2 in the State and were the top seed in R2. And, last year, SHS gave the 2d best performance in the State tournament barely losing to the State champions by 2 points because of a missed FG. But Mentor lost to a team that got thoroughly embarrassed before halftime. The year before that, SHS and Mentor both lost state semifinals by 1 TD late in the 4th qtr, and the state championship game was also decided by 1 TD late in the 4th qtr. And I still think Ignatius will take their frustrations about last week out on Mentor. Let's revisit this Friday night.
Please don't try to compare R2 to R1 top portion or R4. It's disingenuous. Anyways, this is an Ignatius thread, so perhaps if that discussion is desired, maybe a new thread is the best place. R2 only matters to Ignatius or other R1 teams in the state semis
 
Springfield has nothing to do with how Ignatius views Mentor. The games and rivalry over the years itself have taken care of how this series is viewed. Right, wrong, or indifferent, those are just the facts. I was not terribly impressed by Springfield. That doesn't mean they won't run the table etc. I want to see what mentor, X, Hoban, Mueller, Ed's etc look like and then I will rank who I think fits where. Until Mentor regressed, they are a standard bearer in NEO and the state alongside Ed's and X
I just think that generally speaking, after a team has a really stinging tough loss like last week, it's natural to want to get back out there and redeem and prove yourself in the next game. So, I'm sure Ignatius-Mentor has a rivalry but I still think the loss last week will provide extra motivation. Ignatius feels they should have won last week so they want to make damn sure it happens this week. As for Springfield, I think they were rusty most of last week's game. But I hope you were impressed with the comeback. That really showed what they're capable of on both sides of the ball.
 
I've been complaining about the Ignatius offense for years, even when they had more playmakers.

Again it's a wide open offense that runs 4-5 plays. (3 are running)

Watch a St X game if you want to see diverse playcalling and formations. Ignatius copied their defense, I recommend doing the same on O.
 
Please don't try to compare R2 to R1 top portion or R4. It's disingenuous. Anyways, this is an Ignatius thread, so perhaps if that discussion is desired, maybe a new thread is the best place. R2 only matters to Ignatius or other R1 teams in the state semis
But they play R2 teams in the regular season too. My only point is there are good teams in all 4 regions so I agree there's no point in trying to compare playoff region strength. But I'm not the one who tried to do that.
 
I've been complaining about the Ignatius offense for years, even when they had more playmakers.

Again it's a wide open looking offense that runs 4-5 plays. (3 are running)
I kinda had the impression Pfaff was trying to compete with Smoot on the long bombs. What did you think?
 
Dublin Coffman wasn't a top 2 team in the state. You are out of your mind if you think region 2 stacks up to Region 1 in most years. You have no private schools to go through and usually 2 legit schools at all.

I doubt you'll be back to revisit if Mentor beats Ignatius . Iggy fans , you can have this booster joker and your discussion on your team back ?
Oh, I'll be back. In fact, I would love to see SHS v. Mentor in the playoffs. Dublin Coffman was very good last year and I think they were ranked #2 in the State behind PC in the AP poll.
 
Oh, I'll be back. In fact, I would love to see SHS v. Mentor in the playoffs. Dublin Coffman was very good last year and I think they were ranked #2 in the State behind PC in the AP poll.
Ah the AP poll which is meaningless. Got it...

Sure I'd love to play Springfield in the playoffs because that would mean we are in the state finals via rebracket. That has nothing to do with Springfield though.

And region 2 vs region 1 is a no contest that isn't in your favor

I already said Ignatius could beat us so I don't have anything to hide from if they do. If mentor wins though I'm sure you won't be back to say you were wrong
 
Ah the AP poll which is meaningless. Got it...

Sure I'd love to play Springfield in the playoffs because that would mean we are in the state finals via rebracket. That has nothing to do with Springfield though.

And region 2 vs region 1 is a no contest that isn't on your favor
Right and how many state championships does Mentor have coming out of Region 1? The same number of state titles as Springfield, Wayne and Centerville. I will point out Lima Senior is from R2. Let's face it, Mentor is Region 2 caliber according to your standards. In fact, Mentor would not have gotten out of R2 The past 2 years.
 
But they play R2 teams in the regular season too. My only point is there are good teams in all 4 regions so I agree there's no point in trying to compare playoff region strength. But I'm not the one who tried to do that.
Well when you say state final 4 is the same for both teams , yes there is reason to compare. Region 1 is a way harder road.
 
Right and how many state championships does Mentor have coming out of Region 1? The same number of state titles as Springfield, Wayne and Centerville. I will point out Lima Senior is from R2. Let's face it, Mentor is Region 2 caliber according to your standards.
State titles isn't the be all end all in comparing programs. Springfield has a long way to go to do what Mentor did. Mentor and Eds would win region 2 most years but I admit they usually have one solid team at least. Right now it's your school
 
That, coupled with how bad SHS was before Douglass. But it's really not fair to the Ignatius players to judge their loss based off name recognition and playoffs history. I think Ignatius had a pretty good team that suffered a very painful, tough loss last week to a very good team who had the weapons and experience to pulloff a comeback for the ages. It's very possible that by end of the regular season, Ignatius' game was the closest SHS came to losing.
Since it's also mentioned here, virtually no one respects region 2 as well, especially Cincinnati and Cleveland. It's assumed you got a cakewalk and weren't all that good, which I find somewhat ironic as outside of one year of Olentangy Liberty getting crushed the region 2 champ has been extremely competitive the last 5-6 years in the state semifinals. Last year's state final, while I imagine Pick Central would be much more competitive in than game 9 times out of 10, left me feeling like Springfield could have won state.

Iggy even if they go 3-7 or 4-6 I wouldn't be surprised if they had some postseason success and wind up being a very tough out. Almost every week they are getting a week 12 or better opponent.
 
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