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[Yorktown]

Socialist Bernie supporters cheer wildly when S.C. mayor calls them ‘bunch of radicals’ and ‘revolutionaries’

Bernie Sanders supporters cheered at a rally when the mayor of Florence, South Carolina, suggested it was awesome to be "radical socialists."

www.bizpacreview.com

Remember when those terrible tea party individuals were going to take over the country by force?
This is outrageous. People cheering for communist at a Democrat rally.
The mask has come off. Dems need to change their symbol from a jackass to a hammer and sickle.

 

[19AL63]

I am almost 75 years old and I never thought large portions of our population would stand up and cheer and support Socialism which is nothing but Communism under another name. What happen to the day when people felt it would be better to be dead than red? How has this happened?

 

[Qcity]

I am almost 75 years old and I never thought large portions of our population would stand up and cheer and support Socialism which is nothing but Communism under another name. What happen to the day when people felt it would be better to be dead than red? How has this happened?

8 years of a pathetic presidency from someone who vowed to "fundamentally transform America", plus non-stop left-wing propaganda and indoctrination at nearly every university in America, along with a complicit liberal media.

Venezuela went to hel! in just 20 years; we can too.

 

[SWMCinci]

I am almost 75 years old and I never thought large portions of our population would stand up and cheer and support Socialism which is nothing but Communism under another name. What happen to the day when people felt it would be better to be dead than red? How has this happened?

Educators, the media, and politicians have mainstreamed socialist dogma for nearly 40 years and the bumper-sticker reading comprehension of the younger generations has lost it's ability to truly discern the truth. The weird thing is that they've also managed to keep Putin and the Russians as the bad guys vs communism so it seems like they're connected.

 

[Yappi]

Venezuela went to hel! in just 20 years; we can too.

Most of my life, I thought that was not possible. We were in too good of shape and had way too much intelligence to make those kind of mistakes.

Now is the first time that I fear that it may be possible. I still doubt it but the fact that people like Sanders and AOC are thought of as mainstream Americans is a scary thought.

 

[Qcity]

Most of my life, I thought that was not possible. We were in too good of shape and had way too much intelligence to make those kind of mistakes.

Now is the first time that I fear that it may be possible. I still doubt it but the fact that people like Sanders and AOC are thought of as mainstream Americans is a scary thought.

The fact that the democratic party has allowed a socialist to run under their banner is simply bizarre.

 

[chs1971]

How has this happened?

Bad, and nonexistent, parenting.

 

[chs1971]

The fact that the democratic party has allowed a socialist to run under their banner is simply bizarre.

What do you mean "a" socialist?

 

[MoeDude]

I thought this was a sort of interesting take on "how". I'm not sure I agree with everything they're saying (NBC, pfff), but they're getting into the ballpark (at least vaguely - there's more to it).

Op-Ed: Bernie Sanders is the front-runner because of how we raised our kids

How did an avowed socialist get to the top of the Democratic Party? He is supported by millions of younger voters who have been raised to support Bernie Sanders, even if their parents don't realize it, writes Jake Novak.

www.cnbc.com

This is scary, I like your post. There are some very valid points mentioned in the link i think the one major piece I would add to topics mentioned in the link is what chs1971 stated,"Bad and nonexistent parenting!" We now have two+ generations of everyone gets a trophy mentality and having mommy and daddy pay for everything. Well as adults when the mommy and daddy well runs dry they turn to the government to become the new bankroll.

I do have a question for you, do you believe in the direction the Democrat Party and Bernie Sanders are headed? Are you a proponent of this Socialist Movement?

 

[cabezadecaballo]

A bit after the 2016 election (and even the few years leading into it), there were a ton of meetings between various leftist groups where we agreed to stop bickering with each other (at least, not nearly as much as we had in the past) and cooperatively attempt to hijack the Democratic Party's mechanisms to repurpose them. Everyone that you see in the media right now who is "confused" by what is happening either ignored it or dismissed it at the time.

This came up in another thread, and one of my posts have some links that provides some more background. The funny part is, all of the various groups to the left of the Democratic Party were explicit, in no uncertain terms, about what was going to be attempted, and because nobody really took it seriously, well... ...here we are. There's still a long way to go, but things are moving along quite nicely, a bit ahead of schedule even.

The Infiltration and Takeover of the democrat party

Who could have ever imagined (just 20 years ago) that the democrat party could be and would be infiltrated and taken over by radical leftists, socialists and Marxists? It is a shocking revelation. There is a lesson here, these radicals literally infiltrated a major political party (that...

yappi.com

Way too early. Trump has sped you up and wrecked you lot. You needed a Romney type. Trump pulled out many of the working class voters you needed.

I'm re-e-eally looking forward to the Bernie Bros taking a big steaming dump on Milwaukee when he gets jobbed again.

 

[y2h]

I grew up raised by parents who were/are card-carrying DSA members, so it's not exactly new territory for me. I remember being taken to see Bernie Sanders speak back in the 90's when I was a pre-teen, back when it was likely that you already personally knew more than half of the people attending those sorts of things. I don't consider myself a DSA member (about half of their membership is a little bit too far for me), but my views are closer to Sanders and AOC than a moderate Democrat. I'm more than fine with them pulling the Democratic Party leftward.

I understand that the nuance doesn't mean much to most people on this board, but Bernie Sanders isn't nearly as far left as most conservatives in our country imply. He would be a "precocious but largely unremarkable part of the centre-left" in most Western democracies. A fair number of DSA people don't even really consider him a very "good" Democratic Socialist - they're just behind him because he's the closest person that they have to a realistic national candidate. The problem is that "Democratic Socialist" is a poor label for an organization that doesn't exactly have everyone on the same page to begin with, and honestly, Sanders does a pretty lousy job of explaining what he means when he calls himself one. It's basically just shorthand for expressing the idea of mixing social solutions with market solutions in an open democratic system, but people get caught up with the "S word". It would be more accurate to say "Advocate For The Employment of Both Aspects of Socialism and Market Solutions Within A Democratic System", but that's a little wordy, so the term "Democratic Socialist" came into use. It's a pretty far cry from the "seize the means of production" crowd that you're thinking of (though there are many self-identified DSA people who are pretty anti-capitalist) - someone like Sanders accepts a role for capitalism and markets that Socialists and Communists see as a complete non-starter. The Bernie Sanders types of the world want to "fix" capitalism by complementing it with social solutions, not destroy it like a Socialist would. If you're looking for an actual honest-to-goodness "Socialist Movement", you'll be hard pressed to actually find it in this country, and someone like city councilwoman Kshama Sawant of Socialist Alternative in Seattle would be much more representative.

So it's only ironic rather than intentional that he would wreck capitalism?

 

[MoeDude]

I grew up raised by parents who were/are card-carrying DSA members, so it's not exactly new territory for me. I remember being taken to see Bernie Sanders speak back in the 90's when I was a pre-teen, back when it was likely that you already personally knew more than half of the people attending those sorts of things. I don't consider myself a DSA member (about half of their membership is a little bit too far for me), but my views are closer to Sanders and AOC than a moderate Democrat. I'm more than fine with them pulling the Democratic Party leftward.

I understand that the nuance doesn't mean much to most people on this board, but Bernie Sanders isn't nearly as far left as most conservatives in our country imply. He would be a "precocious but largely unremarkable part of the centre-left" in most Western democracies. A fair number of DSA people don't even really consider him a very "good" Democratic Socialist - they're just behind him because he's the closest person that they have to a realistic national candidate. The problem is that "Democratic Socialist" is a poor label for an organization that doesn't exactly have everyone on the same page to begin with, and honestly, Sanders does a pretty lousy job of explaining what he means when he calls himself one. It's basically just shorthand for expressing the idea of mixing social solutions with market solutions in an open democratic system, but people get caught up with the "S word". It would be more accurate to say "Advocate For The Employment of Both Aspects of Socialism and Market Solutions Within A Democratic System", but that's a little wordy, so the term "Democratic Socialist" came into use. It's a pretty far cry from the "seize the means of production" crowd that you're thinking of (though there are many self-identified DSA people who are pretty anti-capitalist) - someone like Sanders accepts a role for capitalism and markets that Socialists and Communists see as a complete non-starter. The Bernie Sanders types of the world want to "fix" capitalism by complementing it with social solutions, not destroy it like a Socialist would. If you're looking for an actual honest-to-goodness "Socialist Movement", you'll be hard pressed to actually find it in this country, and someone like city councilwoman Kshama Sawant of Socialist Alternative in Seattle would be much more representative.

I think you and your parents were and are fooling yourselves. I agree there are some issues with how Capitalism has gone but that's true with all systems financial or otherwise there is always going to be aspects that need to be addressed and altered. But when you look at history in time Socialism fails miserably and we have plenty of examples to demonstrate just how bad it can be. You can be very idealistic about it but in the long run Socialism brings the masses down versus building them up, and you end up with an elitist group in the government living well while the rest of the country battles poverty. Venezuela is the perfect recent example. It only took one generation to bring that country down.

The other thing about the "American Way" anyone who puts their mind to it can be a success and earn wealth. It can be more difficult for some but there are a lot of scio economic influences that determine each story and luck does and can have an impact as well. But the fact is there are multitude of stories of LEGAL Immigrants who have given up everything but made it big in America because of their work ethic and the opportunities this great nation allows. You show me one Socialist nation people are risking their lives to enter and are able to build a comfortable life with little more than the shirts on their back.

 

[Qcity]

What do you mean "a" socialist?

Forgive me for the significant oversight.

 

[y2h]

I'm not defending countries like Venezuela or the Soviet Union. I think trying to use social solutions for everything is folly, just as I think using market solutions for everything is folly. Countries that fail go to one extreme or the other, and all of the countries that are reasonable to live in use some mixture of the two (including ours). There are no socialist utopias in the world, and there aren't any libertarian utopias either - that's not a coincidence. I think both approaches are better viewed as tools at our disposal, to use in tandem, to varying degrees (depending on the situation and the needs of the society in question) than as ideologies to marry yourself to. Someone like Bernie Sanders or AOC works from that framework - they have no intention of adopting a Soviet-style command economy. It's simply a difference in opinion on what the appropriate mix should be.

You arent going to go from where we are today to a Soviet style government by November without an armed revolution.

The key is to ease into it...so 20 years from now we'll be there before anyone realizes what happened. The old frog in boiling water parable.

The difference of opinion on the left isnt a question of should we, only a question of how fast is too fast.

 

[my2sense]

Mud/Harry/Happy - please name the place where Socialism has been a sustained success. Thanks in advance.

 

[Yorktown]

Capitalism in this country is already wrecked. ?

It that is true it’s a direct result of the socialist regulations/controls that we already have from the federal gov.

 

[winbypin]

A bit after the 2016 election (and even the few years leading into it), there were a ton of meetings between various leftist groups where we agreed to stop bickering with each other (at least, not nearly as much as we had in the past) and cooperatively attempt to hijack the Democratic Party's mechanisms to repurpose them. Everyone that you see in the media right now who is "confused" by what is happening either ignored it or dismissed it at the time.

This came up in another thread, and one of my posts have some links that provides some more background. The funny part is, all of the various groups to the left of the Democratic Party were explicit, in no uncertain terms, about what was going to be attempted, and because nobody really took it seriously, well... ...here we are. There's still a long way to go, but things are moving along quite nicely, a bit ahead of schedule even.

The Infiltration and Takeover of the democrat party

Who could have ever imagined (just 20 years ago) that the democrat party could be and would be infiltrated and taken over by radical leftists, socialists and Marxists? It is a shocking revelation. There is a lesson here, these radicals literally infiltrated a major political party (that...

yappi.com

YOU were at these meetings?

Maybe that explains your disappearance for a couple years since the election.

 

[cabezadecaballo]

Mud/Harry/Happy - please name the place where Socialism has been a sustained success. Thanks in advance.

Closest thing to it might be Vatican City.

Kuwait shares with their tiny populace pretty well. Or I guess provides well on average would be more accurate. Very few to share with, considering the vast wealth.

 

[Yorktown]

I grew up raised by parents who were/are card-carrying DSA members, so it's not exactly new territory for me. I remember being taken to see Bernie Sanders speak back in the 90's when I was a pre-teen, back when it was likely that you already personally knew more than half of the people attending those sorts of things. I don't consider myself a DSA member (about half of their membership is a little bit too far for me), but my views are closer to Sanders and AOC than a moderate Democrat. I'm more than fine with them pulling the Democratic Party leftward.

I understand that the nuance doesn't mean much to most people on this board, but Bernie Sanders isn't nearly as far left as most conservatives in our country imply. He would be a "precocious but largely unremarkable part of the centre-left" in most Western democracies. A fair number of DSA people don't even really consider him a very "good" Democratic Socialist - they're just behind him because he's the closest person that they have to a realistic national candidate. The problem is that "Democratic Socialist" is a poor label for an organization that doesn't exactly have everyone on the same page to begin with, and honestly, Sanders does a pretty lousy job of explaining what he means when he calls himself one. It's basically just shorthand for expressing the idea of mixing social solutions with market solutions in an open democratic system, but people get caught up with the "S word". It would be more accurate to say "Advocate For The Employment of Both Aspects of Socialism and Market Solutions Within A Democratic System", but that's a little wordy, so the term "Democratic Socialist" came into use. It's a pretty far cry from the "seize the means of production" crowd that you're thinking of (though there are many self-identified DSA people who are pretty anti-capitalist) - someone like Sanders accepts a role for capitalism and markets that Socialists and Communists see as a complete non-starter. The Bernie Sanders types of the world want to "fix" capitalism by complementing it with social solutions, not destroy it like a Socialist would. If you're looking for an actual honest-to-goodness "Socialist Movement", you'll be hard pressed to actually find it in this country, and someone like city councilwoman Kshama Sawant of Socialist Alternative in Seattle would be much more representative.

The lies you tell.

Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) - Working towards a better future for all.

Working towards a better future for all.

www.dsausa.org

Jackson is a Troll and socialist apologist.

If this organization was to obtain real power they would do anything and everything to end capitalism.
This includes incarcerating and or murdering people who refuse to bow to their dogma.

 

[cabezadecaballo]

I'm not defending countries like Venezuela or the Soviet Union. I think trying to use social solutions for everything is folly, just as I think using market solutions for everything is folly. Countries that fail go to one extreme or the other, and all of the countries that are reasonable to live in use some mixture of the two (including ours). There are no socialist utopias in the world, and there aren't any libertarian utopias either - that's not a coincidence. I think both approaches are better viewed as tools at our disposal, to use in tandem, to varying degrees (depending on the situation and the needs of the society in question) than as ideologies to marry yourself to. Someone like Bernie Sanders or AOC works from that framework - they have no intention of adopting a Soviet-style command economy. It's simply a difference in opinion on what the appropriate mix should be.

When too strong a mechanism for control of the populace exists, the "appropriate mix" will always become whatever those in power want. Why do you think these people always start with gun controls ? They are carpet-baggers and parasites of the worst kind.

 

[cabezadecaballo]

I have no desire to live in a Soviet-style country. I explained it pretty explicitly. Try reading.

Fantasy-land is what you "explained".

 

[19AL63]

Capitalism and socialism are not binary. Your stupidity and lack of imagination does not make me a "liar".

But your thinking and your voicing that socialism is the answer to our problems might make you something other than educated and wise.

 

[19AL63]

I never claimed that it was the answer to our problems. I even explicitly said otherwise. I'm not sure how you could have possibly missed that.

And yet here you are day after day voicing your support for these Communistic Socialistic Liberal Democrats.

 

[Omar]

8 years of a pathetic presidency from someone who vowed to "fundamentally transform America", plus non-stop left-wing propaganda and indoctrination at nearly every university in America, along with a complicit liberal media.

Venezuela went to hel! in just 20 years; we can too.

No, it’s s**tty parenting. A whole generation of coddled brats who haven’t learned what it takes to be an adult. You might not like Obama, but this is not his fault

 

[Belly35]

And yet here you are day after day voicing your support for these Communistic Socialistic Liberal Democrats.

This is why our forefathers in their wisdom included the 2 Amendment.
This is why Liberal, Democrats, Socialists, Communists Politicians want to take away your right of weapon ownership.

 

[Guillotine]

No, it’s s**tty parenting. A whole generation of coddled brats who haven’t learned what it takes to be an adult. You might not like Obama, but this is not his fault

Maybe not 100% his fault, but he is complicit.

By all measures Barry destroyed the Democrat party, and his greatest legacy is President Trump. He created a void in leadership that the Moonbat wing is now poised to fill.

 

[cabezadecaballo]

Maybe not 100% his fault, but he is complicit.

By all measures Barry destroyed the Democrat party, and his greatest legacy is President Trump. He created a void in leadership that the Moonbat wing is now poised to fill.

I think they destroyed thenselves. When you try so hard to be all things to all people, you end up being no good to anyone. Pull the 'Pubs too far right, and the Dems are back in business.

 

[Omar]

Maybe not 100% his fault, but he is complicit.

By all measures Barry destroyed the Democrat party, and his greatest legacy is President Trump. He created a void in leadership that the Moonbat wing is now poised to fill.

We were already trending in this direction early into his 1st term ( Occupy Wall St). This is the result of an entire generation not understanding how to handle failure. When they’re not successful it’s not their fault, it’s someone else’s. The rich/billionaires were an easy scapegoat.

 

[Guillotine]

We were already trending in this direction early into his 1st term ( Occupy Wall St). This is the result of an entire generation not understanding how to handle failure. When they’re not successful it’s not their fault, it’s someone else’s. The rich/billionaires were an easy scapegoat.

You're missing my point.

Barry (through failed leadership) created a void in party leadership that the far left Moonbats are now filling.

If he'd have been a stronger leader, the trend you speak of would have never grown legs.

 

[Omar]

You're missing my point.

Barry (through failed leadership) created a void in party leadership that the far left Moonbats are now filling.

If he'd have been a stronger leader, the trend you speak of would have never grown legs.

And I disagree. This wave of Millennial socialism isn’t a response to Obama. It’s about an authority figure telling an entire generation they’re not to blame for their struggles (which are self inflicted).

The only way I think Obama is to blame is him not publicly backing Joe Biden. If he came out and pledged support for Biden, I think that would give him enough to beat out Sanders.