TraditionNeverGraduates
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Could it be you overestimated Elder's talent, which you have been doing all year long?
Region 4 Championship: Archbishop Moeller (12-1) vs Lakota West (13-0)
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Could it be you overestimated Elder's talent, which you have been doing all year long?
HSFB Fan
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Yes he is...
Fightinirish123
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Have you done much research on West? To say their oline is better than Moe is.... odd. Any explanation?
ElDuderino
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HSFB Fan
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I like WEST in this one 24-20.
WEST cannot be negative in the turnover stat and needs to stay disciplined and the D will carry them.
Moeller is +5 in turnovers to WEST +3 so far the past 3 games so this will be key to stay + for WEST.
I was surprised to see 117 yards in penalties for Moeller in the Mason game they other two games were nowhere . Moe has committed 24 penalties for 180 yards in the three playoff games to WEST 12 for 125 both decent.
As long as neither team had any injuries last week this should be a great game especially match ups with WEST D Line to Moeller's O line.
WEST cannot be negative in the turnover stat and needs to stay disciplined and the D will carry them.
Moeller is +5 in turnovers to WEST +3 so far the past 3 games so this will be key to stay + for WEST.
I was surprised to see 117 yards in penalties for Moeller in the Mason game they other two games were nowhere . Moe has committed 24 penalties for 180 yards in the three playoff games to WEST 12 for 125 both decent.
As long as neither team had any injuries last week this should be a great game especially match ups with WEST D Line to Moeller's O line.
FourthAndOne
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I feel like LW OL is a little more athletic
Ohioriverboy42
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Stated differently, I was right all along and ya heard it here first...
FootballGuru9
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SHS will be by FAR the best offense either Moeller or LW has faced all year. Not sure why people keep sleeping on them…..going to be a close game against Moe or LW.
Ohioriverboy42
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Because they want it to be an all parochial school final. Ever since the loss to Fairmont, SHS's defense has really stepped up and the offense has been unstoppable.
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Moeller's opponents during the regular season are a combined 75-36. LW opponents on the other hand were 49-63. I don't know what to make of this other than Moeller's schedule was markedly more difficult and they seemed to have faced a variety of offensive and defensive game planners. I doubt they will see anything they have not seen before. Based on the performance of their O line and stout running game, they should be able to wear down the LW defense. They will undoubtedly test the West secondary to keep them from stacking the box. Moeller's defense will be the best that LW has seen all year and they will have to prove that they can run and pass efficiently. Pressure by the Moeller front seven will be key in keeping the West QB from getting too comfortable. Moeller's stand out defensive secondary will be on the lookout for errant pass attempts as the result of defensive pressure. Once again, if Moeller brings their A game-they win. Anything less-they may not. GBM 
ElderHSfan02
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I don't think so. Elder was in the game, and I don't think Elder played particularly well. I'm not taking anything away from West, I was very impressed with them. Bolden has them playing lights out right now. They are a lot better right now than they were week 1.
It should be a great game. I just think LW has the defense to slow Moe down a little.
Ohioriverboy42
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LW is bent on finally breaking through and making the final 4. They're determined not to lost this game to GCL for third straight year. That and the revenge factor may carry them to final 4. But then, they may have an emotional letdown in the next game.
I’d agree if they could run the ball
LW would sit their D1 talent back and challenge them to run
Forced throws into coverage will create turnovers
Moe. Well it’s Moe and a running game that is difficult and will play keep away with most teams
Wolverines698
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1. Okay well Elders Regular Season opponents had a combined record of 80-34, so can we please not do this schedule stuff. That’s all a lot of Elder posters talked about all week long.Moeller's opponents during the regular season are a combined 75-36. LW opponents on the other hand were 49-63. I don't know what to make of this other than Moeller's schedule was markedly more difficult and they seemed to have faced a variety of offensive and defensive game planners. I doubt they will see anything they have not seen before. Based on the performance of their O line and stout running game, they should be able to wear down the LW defense. They will undoubtedly test the West secondary to keep them from stacking the box. Moeller's defense will be the best that LW has seen all year and they will have to prove that they can run and pass efficiently. Pressure by the Moeller front seven will be key in keeping the West QB from getting too comfortable. Moeller's stand out defensive secondary will be on the lookout for errant pass attempts as the result of defensive pressure. Once again, if Moeller brings their A game-they win. Anything less-they may not. GBM
2. If west shuts down Marshall, they probably lose simple. Your pass game is all set up out of the fear of a Marshall run. You’re not gonna sit back and continuously throw for good yards on this West Secondary. Elder just tried to smash the football on West and look what happened. Though it seems Moeller likes the stretch which makes sense as that allows Marshall to make a move but this West D line is quick, they can move laterally as well as they play power straight up.
3. West comfortably beats up the #11 and #5 teams in D1 Ohio (last polls of the season) in the playoffs and still we are going to act like this isn’t a team Moeller should be worried about?
Monstawarrior
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Uh...ok?
Monstawarrior
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Thanks for the history lesson... I guess.
MoeDude
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Nice analysis, now throw in the unknown. Which QB does Moe go with in this one. The Frosh showed a lot of poise last week coming in early in a playoff game. I thnk he may give Moe a better chance with the long ball. This unknown could spell doom for LW with a combination of running and passing or it could be challenge on the nerves of a very young QB if they opt for the Frosh.Moeller's opponents during the regular season are a combined 75-36. LW opponents on the other hand were 49-63. I don't know what to make of this other than Moeller's schedule was markedly more difficult and they seemed to have faced a variety of offensive and defensive game planners. I doubt they will see anything they have not seen before. Based on the performance of their O line and stout running game, they should be able to wear down the LW defense. They will undoubtedly test the West secondary to keep them from stacking the box. Moeller's defense will be the best that LW has seen all year and they will have to prove that they can run and pass efficiently. Pressure by the Moeller front seven will be key in keeping the West QB from getting too comfortable. Moeller's stand out defensive secondary will be on the lookout for errant pass attempts as the result of defensive pressure. Once again, if Moeller brings their A game-they win. Anything less-they may not. GBM
Fightinirish123
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The Mason vs West game is on youtube. Please watch. Think you will see Mason presented challenges to that oline all game. Score indicates a bigger blow out than what occurred. Moeller had no problem controlling the line of scrimmage against Mason. I know its tough to compare like opponents but I will always go back to what is shown on film when making opinions on teams. Context is key.
HSFB Fan
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The -6 in the turnover stat the past 3 games is not going to be a winning stat vs a WEST or Moe.
If SHS does not turn it over I think it will be a tight contest. Lose the turnover battle like the first game vs Fairmont, I like WEST or Moe..
Wolverines698
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How does Riverboy turn every thread into a Springfield thread. Aren’t there Springfield threads out there? 
fish82
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It was 37-7, and West out gained Mason 425-98. I mean, it was pretty much a beatdown.
Didn't you all play the SOS card with Elder last week???Moeller's opponents during the regular season are a combined 75-36. LW opponents on the other hand were 49-63. I don't know what to make of this other than Moeller's schedule was markedly more difficult and they seemed to have faced a variety of offensive and defensive game planners. I doubt they will see anything they have not seen before. Based on the performance of their O line and stout running game, they should be able to wear down the LW defense. They will undoubtedly test the West secondary to keep them from stacking the box. Moeller's defense will be the best that LW has seen all year and they will have to prove that they can run and pass efficiently. Pressure by the Moeller front seven will be key in keeping the West QB from getting too comfortable. Moeller's stand out defensive secondary will be on the lookout for errant pass attempts as the result of defensive pressure. Once again, if Moeller brings their A game-they win. Anything less-they may not. GBM
FourthAndOne
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I just don’t put a lot of weight into SOS at this point. Ask Specht how that worked out for STX last season. It is all about 4Qs on Friday night.
Pope Francis 1
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I have a GCL bias but I’ll go with Lakota West over Moeller 17-10. I hope I’m wrong and also hope the winner takes the state title.
Frank the first:
What is the over under for penalties, penalty yards and personal Fouls?
I got it at 20, 200 and 6
And your odds for post game fireworks and no handshake?
I got both at Even
ALLAMERICAN85'
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You reaching there. You a stalker?How does Riverboy turn every thread into a Springfield thread. Aren’t there Springfield threads out there?