Region 1 2019

cardzfan1234

Well-known member
McKinley has gotten better every week under new Coach Marcus Wattley and is being picked by some of the die hard Massillon fans to beat Massillon this week. If the Bulldogs do manage to get past the Tigers (9-0) after having just beaten Mass. Perry ( Perry will def win their last game and finish 8-2), where will the 9-1 Bulldogs likely finish, 2nd or 3rd?.

WHERE CHAMPIONS ARE MADE AND SUCCESS IS TRADITION
If Eds wins too, it would be very close between the two at the 2/3 seeds. Not that it really matters who is the 2 and who is the 3.

If McKinley loses, it will be very close for them between the 3 and 4 seed with Euclid.
 

SVillegrad

Well-known member
Looks pretty cut and dry after today.

1. Jackson will be in, win or lose (anywhere from 6-8)
2. Medina/Brunswick winner is in (Medina could also be 6 to 8 with a win, Brunswick would be the No. 8 with a win)
3. Cleveland Heights is in with a win (could also be anywhere from 6 to 8)
4. If Medina wins and Cleveland Heights loses, Stow/ Heights will be close for the final spot, but think Stow edges Heights out
5. If Brunswick beats Medina and Heights loses, it will be Medina/Stow/Heights for the final spot, and I think Medina edges them out.

The only other thing that would change that is if Strongsville beats Mentor. They could get up to No. 8 in scenarios four and five (and could actually finish ahead of a 7-3 Brunswick in scenario 2 ... though that would take Berea, Hudson, Brecksville all winning and Lorain losing to Shaw, so not very likely). And actually, Strongsville isn't an automatic in scenario 5 either, because Medina could still finish higher. Strongsville's only .001 percent hope may be to win and then for scenario 4 to happen.
 
Last edited:

Maxie

Well-known member
McKinley has gotten better every week under new Coach Marcus Wattley and is being picked by some of the die hard Massillon fans to beat Massillon this week. If the Bulldogs do manage to get past the Tigers (9-0) after having just beaten Mass. Perry ( Perry will def win their last game and finish 8-2), where will the 9-1 Bulldogs likely finish, 2nd or 3rd?.

WHERE CHAMPIONS ARE MADE AND SUCCESS IS TRADITION
Please name these “die hard Massillon fans.”
 

Mr. Slippery

Well-known member
Why went from 2 to 0 ?.
Pasteur was missing either Moeller's loss to St. Edward or Loyola's loss to Marist. Take the 6.5 potential L2 points off the table for whichever loss wasn't factored in yet, and Iggy's max win-out average dropped below the min lose-out averages for 8 of the teams in region 1 (Mentor, St. Ed, McKinley, Euclid, Solon, Jackson, Medina, and Cleveland Hts.). Once that happens, a team is mathematically eliminated by Eitel.
 
Last edited:

SVillegrad

Well-known member
Well I guess there is the possibility of West Toronto Prep cancelling the Week 10 game (it's been said on here that Ignatius would never purposely cancel at the last minute on somebody). That would be a little fishy though, especially since West Toronto just gave Warren Harding a close game. I don't think it is going to happen and that game looks like it will be played. But this is more a general question, has a situation like that ever happened, and how would the OHSAA count it? Would they give West Toronto a forfeit if they were the ones to cancel, or would the OHSAA treat it as an Iggy bye week, which would put them back in the mix.
 

Mr. Slippery

Well-known member
Well I guess there is the possibility of West Toronto Prep cancelling the Week 10 game (it's been said on here that Ignatius would never purposely cancel at the last minute on somebody). That would be a little fishy though, especially since West Toronto just gave Warren Harding a close game. I don't think it is going to happen and that game looks like it will be played. But this is more a general question, has a situation like that ever happened, and how would the OHSAA count it? Would they give West Toronto a forfeit if they were the ones to cancel, or would the OHSAA treat it as an Iggy bye week, which would put them back in the mix.
Cancellations are treated as open weeks.

A cancellation is rather unlikely, but at best, Iggy would finish at 20.5364 if it went down like that.
 
Last edited:

SVillegrad

Well-known member
Cancellations are treated as open weeks.
I know they are, but this would be a different scenario because this doesn't look like a team that would be putting their kids in danger for playing the game. Granted Warren Harding is not Iggy, but Warren Harding is still a quality, Division II playoff team that they just hung with. Before anybody accuses me of saying that West Toronto is going to cancel, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that in a case where a team cancels on another with the only logical reason for the cancellation is to help the other team make the playoffs, I think the OHSAA should treat it as a forfeit instead of an open week.
 

SVillegrad

Well-known member
Cancellations are treated as open weeks.

A cancellation is rather unlikely, but at best, Iggy would finish at 20.5364 if it went down like that.
Yeah, didn't add it up. But if that's the case they probably would only go back up to 2 percent, so its moot in this case anyway.
 

SVillegrad

Well-known member
Just spitballing on these percentages, but this is roughly what I would put the odds of the 6 remaining teams who are still alive for the final 3 spots:

Jackson: 99 percent (might as well count them as a lock)

Medina: 65 percent (win and in, but still even has a couple paths with a loss).

Cleveland Heights: 60 percent (win and in and still has a longshot path with a loss).

Brunswick: 40 percent (a win should do it, but there are a couple scenarios where they could win and still be out).

Stow: 5 percent (still alive and while it wouldn't take some so inconceivable scenarios to make me say they are done, it still will take a minor miracle).

Strongsville: 1 percent (Mentor has the outright GCC title to play for so they probably play everybody for a half, build up a 3-4 TD lead then rest everybody. That may give Strongsville's starters a 2 percent chance to come back on Mentor's backups in the second half. But I'm dropping it back down to 1 percent because a win, unlikely as it is to begin, still doesn't guarantee a spot ... and even if it does, they will just go right back against Mentor in week 11 and lose by 40-plus, lol).
 

JJBulldog

Well-known member
Being a home team in a neutral stadium second round can sometimes mean not having to sit in an ice storm blowing tiny ice particles in your face at 40 miles per hour (Brunswick) lol. As a fan, I'm willing to suffer the elements to support my team, but there are limits. Sitting in the visitors stand in Brunswick last year in the second half of the game with Mentor was literally Chinese torture. I felt sorry for the band who couldn't get up and move to the home stand to survive it. It coincided with the second half collapse of our team, but they weren't physically ready to go the distance anyway. They were a finesse team with no depth and questionable conditioning getting pummeled with injuries and pellets of blinding, painful ice. So if we win, it would be nice not to have to wear goggles in the second round matchup! Better still, it would be even nicer to be back in our old region 2 where its easier to progress to a semi to play only one of Mentor or St. Edward than needing to beat both with a new coach and a young team just to get out of the region. Life in R1 is like a box of chocolates...;-)

WHERE CHAMPIONS ARE MADE AND SUCCESS IS TRADITION
 

EagleSE

Active member
Well I was wrong about St. I getting in, thought they would beat X, but weather conditions can effect a game.

It's interesting how things will end up McK a win over Mas should put them in #2, but a loss puts them in #3 or #4. Ed's could drop to 4, but that would take a lot of unusual things to happen. It will be fun to watch out how 6, 7 & 8 plays out this next weekend. Should be some great high school games.
 

Wildcat97

Well-known member
Well I was wrong about St. I getting in, thought they would beat X, but weather conditions can effect a game.

It's interesting how things will end up McK a win over Mas should put them in #2, but a loss puts them in #3 or #4. Ed's could drop to 4, but that would take a lot of unusual things to happen. It will be fun to watch out how 6, 7 & 8 plays out this next weekend. Should be some great high school games.
6, 7, and 8 are the battles to see who can avoid running clocks
 

Hank THE Tank

New member
Being a home team in a neutral stadium second round can sometimes mean not having to sit in an ice storm blowing tiny ice particles in your face at 40 miles per hour (Brunswick) lol. As a fan, I'm willing to suffer the elements to support my team, but there are limits. Sitting in the visitors stand in Brunswick last year in the second half of the game with Mentor was literally Chinese torture. I felt sorry for the band who couldn't get up and move to the home stand to survive it. It coincided with the second half collapse of our team, but they weren't physically ready to go the distance anyway. They were a finesse team with no depth and questionable conditioning getting pummeled with injuries and pellets of blinding, painful ice. So if we win, it would be nice not to have to wear goggles in the second round matchup! Better still, it would be even nicer to be back in our old region 2 where its easier to progress to a semi to play only one of Mentor or St. Edward than needing to beat both with a new coach and a young team just to get out of the region. Life in R1 is like a box of chocolates...;-)

WHERE CHAMPIONS ARE MADE AND SUCCESS IS TRADITION
Could be McKinley vs St. Edward Rd 2. Guessing at Byers an Reg final in Euclid again. If you guys get the 2 and we at 3, man those Home stands suck as bad,maybe worse than Brunswick visitors. You want the 3 just so u can sit on the west side. Lol.
 

cardzfan1234

Well-known member
Stow's path to the 8 seed looks like it includes all of the following:

1) Stow victory over Cuyahoga Falls (94% likelihood according to Pasteur)
2) Cleveland Heights loss to Maple (27%)
3) North Royalton over Nordonia (48%)
4) Twinsburg over Hudson (7%)

In other words, right around 1% likelihood. Barring the incredibly unlikely scenarios above taking place, looks like the final spot will be decided in the Medina/Brunswick game. Determining the 8th seed will be the following:

If Medina wins or Heights loses, Heights will be the 8 seed
If Cleveland Heights/Brunswick win, Brunswick will be the 8 seed
 

cardzfan1234

Well-known member
My projections:

1. Mentor (10-0) 39.700
2. St Edward (9-1) 34.283
3. Euclid (8-2) 29.696
4. McKinley (8-2) 29.350
5. Solon (8-2) 28.800
6. Jackson (8-2) 25.700
7. Medina (7-3) 25.500
8. Cleveland Heights (9-1) 24.750

We could see as many as four or five regular season rematches out of the seven Region 1 playoff games. But my projections include all fresh match ups in the first round, which would be more interesting. A couple Fed/GCC showdowns. Reigniting an old LEL matchup with Mentor/Heights. Eds/Medina...not much to say about that. I imagine it might be the first time the two would have ever played before, just a guess.
 

Hank THE Tank

New member
There is lot of good teams in the region. Lot of ppl expect Mentor and Eds.

Eds playing Detroit Cass Tech, Erie Prep, Elder, Winton Woods, even a bad Moeller would beat Elyria 100 to 0.
Mentor probably would of beat everyone Eds played an they did Iggy an Clarkson...but Mentor plays Elyria, Shaker, and a few other GCC teams that are ok, then Solon Euclid, they did whoop them.

think that Eds harder schedule playing helps get them ready more than any team in region.

Anything can happen but just a thought
 

bagobones

Member
There is lot of good teams in the region. Lot of ppl expect Mentor and Eds.

Eds playing Detroit Cass Tech, Erie Prep, Elder, Winton Woods, even a bad Moeller would beat Elyria 100 to 0.
Mentor probably would of beat everyone Eds played an they did Iggy an Clarkson...but Mentor plays Elyria, Shaker, and a few other GCC teams that are ok, then Solon Euclid, they did whoop them.

think that Eds harder schedule playing helps get them ready more than any team in region.

Anything can happen but just a thought
Have you been drinking like Frank the Tank?
 

halifax8

New member
@Hank THE Tank
Those two are solely the owners of Region 1 until someone can pry it from their hands. I don't see how it could possibly happen this year. Or next. But until Hoban wins another State Championship, adds more boys to their enrollment and has to compete in Region 1, then we could see a different Region 1 winner.
 

Hank THE Tank

New member
Have you been drinking like Frank the Tank?
[/
@Hank THE Tank
Those two are solely the owners of Region 1 until someone can pry it from their hands. I don't see how it could possibly happen this year. Or next. But until Hoban wins another State Championship, adds more boys to their enrollment and has to compete in Region 1, then we could see a different Region 1 winner.
Agree with u.
 

mailman112

Well-known member
I think almost everyone would be shocked if it's not Ed's and Mentor. Two best teams without question. Now do I think Ed's schedule will help? 100% Mentor hasn't played a game that mattered since the Iggy game. When they meet in 4 weeks that will be almost 3 months since they had any meaningful snaps. I am not saying Mentor is going to lose just when you go that long without a meaningful game it may cause some issues. Either way should be a great game. The winner should be the favorite to win it all.
 

MentorGrad2002

Well-known member
I think almost everyone would be shocked if it's not Ed's and Mentor. Two best teams without question. Now do I think Ed's schedule will help? 100% Mentor hasn't played a game that mattered since the Iggy game. When they meet in 4 weeks that will be almost 3 months since they had any meaningful snaps. I am not saying Mentor is going to lose just when you go that long without a meaningful game it may cause some issues. Either way should be a great game. The winner should be the favorite to win it all.
True to a point but it isn't like Eds has played a bunch of juggernauts either in the 2nd half

Solon and Euclid could be 4/5 in region 1 when it's all said and done. Are they elite like mentor and Eds? Of course not. But maybe Mentor made them look very bad because Mentor is very good. Crazy I know
 
.
Top