getting healthy. everyone is banged up by week 10, some more than others. some teams may need the bye and some may not, so i think you do a draw and give the top 4 teams an opportunity to take it or not, then pass it down by seed.
I vote for a top 8 with 4 weeks of playoffs. This way teams will have earned a playoff spot, the games for the most part will be more competitive and you can start the season late August early September. I don't like this middle of August start to the season.
a. You wait until Monday?
a. Who wouldn't want a week to rest legs and allow bruises to heal?
Who waits until the Monday after to review the previous game? (edit: I see the confusion. By 'review' in this context, I'm referring to watching the film of the upcoming opponent. Review as in watching as a team since most film exchanges through Hudl aren't accomplished until after the Saturday team session -- they'll get distributed to the team through the Hudl app before Monday. Monday would be the first opportunity to view it over as one unit, but it shouldn't be the first time all the kids in the room are seeing their upcoming opponent's tape.)
I suppose it depends if a coach prioritizes routine over rest!chs1971 said:
Sure. If there’s the liberty to take or decline the bye (decline = pass it down like you said) then there’s likely more support for the concept!
There are many teams that wait until Monday to review the previous game film... and there are many that don't, for equally valid reasons. When I played at Walsh Jesuit, we had guys coming from University Heights, Medina, Stark County, Ravenna, and all parts in between. Given that a lot of guys had Saturday jobs, and many of the juniors/sophomores had JV, meeting on Saturday wouldn't have made sense, for numerous logistical reasons. And being a Catholic school, Sunday was out of the question. However, a smaller local public could much more easily do a Saturday film session. It all depends on the proverbial "cards" that you're dealt.
The new D1 regions of made up of 17&18 teams is a killer in the 16 team playoff. Is it possible to have all other divisions go 16 or 12, and have D1 go back to 8. Half of their region is still qualifying.
This is just a dumb argument. Football is the only high school sport where you can only play 1 game per week. Volleyball, soccer, basketball, baseball, softball all can have everyone make the tournament and get the tournament done quicker because they can play twice a week.
yer right, I don’t have an understanding of the concept of something that football coaches of good teams generally are not interested in being forced upon them.
Other states have shortened the rest days between games for football in the postseason before. Not arguing for it, just pointing it out.
Has an NFL team ever proposed a rule change that they not be "forced" to take a bye in the playoffs?
If it is going to be 8, strength of schedule HAS to be included. To go along with DJS, Napoleon (5-5) was the 13 seed and beat #4 Lorain Clearview 49-0 and #5 Bay Village 28-0. Drew Pasteur had Napoleon winning both of those games based on his system.
Apples to oranges, just like it’d be apples to oranges for me to cite the top four seeds in the most recent CFP playoff going 0-4 in their games as an argument against byes.
gotta love taking opportunities away from kids!
exactly why theyll keep it at 16... the cream rises to the top anyways
Generally I agree with this statement but I remember one time that live scouting might have had a negative effect. This goes back to playoffs 2007, Marion Local was playing Indian Creek on a Saturday afternoon because Marion's girls volleyball team had a either a state final or semifinal game the evening before and the football game had been moved to the following afternoon to allow fans to attend both.
Co-State Champs?
Ridiculous take concerning the bye. This isn't like the CFP where you get an extra two weeks off and you're sitting at home for nearly a month
i heard parkway claims that win too (since the mac won)
Another incredibly dumb argument
Shorten the number of rest & recovery days in a season that's already longer than most colleges? What could go wrong?
No, more like Fugi to Gala.
Listen pal, if I want to hear about how they do it in other states, I’ll only take info from the guy that’s seen 4,239 games across the lower 48…
The opportunity to lose by 50 to a team like Marion local, Liberty Center and Ironton. Just to name a few 1 seeded teams that breeze by their first game. DSJ was a 15 and their schedule proved why they made a little run they did. Not very often will you said that in the lower divisions.
Absolute BS argument. With the exception of the aforementioned 15-seed DSJ (which, as mentioned, their seeding was the result of their murder-face schedule), those 13-16 seeds have no business being there, and by and large, those kids don't even want to be there. Average margin of victory for 13-4 through 16-1 games is in the 30's according to a podcast cited on another thread. Can't imagine that's fun for anyone.
There have been in the past other sports and still is at least one sport where not everyone qualifies for the playoffs/tournament. I am not sure what the status of boys ice hockey and lacrosse are presently but not everyone got in at one point. And boys tennis at present it is still the case, only in NEO.
