The problem is high school coaches have petitioned on different occasions of doing exactly what you are talking about separate playoffs and divisions for private/ parochial schools vs public schools. It has been voted down by a wide margin every time.
OE is a tool to get kids in seats that would not normally be there. That means more money for the district and most have an application/criteria you must meet to get that OE spot. I would like to know what that criteria is. Would OCC schools win many of the championship as laid out above, sure, but I don't think that is a reason not to do something.
Central was built about 30 years after Westerville split into North/South, to service the booming Genoa Twp side of the district. It probably should’ve been called Westerville East, but alas!
Probably because the OHSAA feels like someone/lawyer will sue and call it discrimination. So they don't want the hassle.
So take a gate/$$$ from schools for losing a home game going to 9? I’m sure that’ll go over well.
I’m not saying it’s a good idea or that I think it’s the best idea…. But it is definitely more likely then going to 12 teams or 8 teams again.
Just give everyone a partcipitation trophy.
I don’t fully agree here. They ruffled feathers adding the 6th official and demanding that schools must pay that extra official the same amount. You cannot make all of this revenue and hit your members with more expenses. I think the OHSAA either reduces to 12 or is forced to begin giving money back to the schools
Exactly I don't care who you blame but it's not the kids because they did not hand out the participation trophies
Harbin is flawed but at least you know what you need to do to make the playoffs. If we are just letting the OHSAA pick the teams they want at the end of they year then no one knows what is required to make the playoffs. IMO setting a win threshold and then drawing names from a hat based on that would be better than just letting the OHSAA decide.
You are failing to recognize a couple of facts to this conversation.
Before the playoff expansion, wasn't it 3 scrimmages - 10 weeks reg season - 5 playoff games? Now it is 2 scrimmages and 6 playoff games. I thought they took away a scrimmage to accommodate the extra week of playoffs.
There were 3 weeks that you could scrimmage prior to the playoff expansion, and the 3rd had to be a "jamboree" played like a game. Some teams took advantage of all 3 weeks, most that I know of only used 2. Our school never had 3 scrimmages - just the standard 2 in the 2 weeks prior to the season starting. For a long time Grove scrimmaged Liberty Center, it was always Grove's second scrimmage and LC's third, so it had to be the jamboree style. The last time that I went before they stopped scrimmaging, they played 1 half of live varsity with a running clock, then the second half was all or mostly JV and freshmen, so it ended up being shorter than a standard scrimmage anyway
This seems to be the format I am seeing from our jamboree games recently.
LC actually schedules as good as anyone in NW Ohio....
Tinora- yearly conference title contender, routinely in the running for top 8
Napoleon- 2 whole divisions bigger than them by raw numbers, even in a down period now wins 5-7 games yearly
Otsego- Has had 2 losing regular seasons in the last decade, and one was 2015. Like Tinora, usually in the discussion for top 8 in their region.
They've now replaced Napoleon with Eastwood.
LC is also the 3rd smallest school in terms of straight up boys enrollment in their league. They're CONSTANTLY playing up and STILL dominant. So making it seem like "they beat everyone by 30 so they just purposely avoid challenges" is flat out wrong.
PH plays Grove. Hicksville hasn't been good in almost 10 years. Ayersville has their moments, but when they're bad they're awful.
Next you'll say Marion Local plays no one because their closest game was 21 points
Plus the way Marion even practices, starters only take 50% or less of snaps and very few are 100% effort reps. This also helps get kids ready for when they are starters. Marion Local, basically, runs the same scheme year in and year out so it is mostly timing stuff to get worked out on Offense. Side note....how many programs run plays with their QB as a lead blocker? I remember seeing them in 2012-2013 running Super Power with Adam Bertke(Pitt recruit) running lead blocker and thinking how crazy that was.
I think you could say the same thing for Liberty Center. I just looked it up on Joe Eitel, the last two years they have had 16 40+ wins. Those starters aren't playing 16 full games a season. I think I saw someone post that they have 70+ kids on the roster as well. I would assume they can go pretty deep on the depth chart.
If I remember correctly Ellet took Buchtel to triple OT in 87 before losing to the eventual state champs. Ellet really got up for Buchtel games back then. I think a lot had to do with bussing in Akron at the time, a good chunk of west Akron kids were bussed to Ellet and suited up for them. These were kids that played pee wee football for the West Griffins and South Rangers, traditional Buchtel feeder teams, and were forced to attend Ellet. Kids like Grandville Weems that lived 4 blocks from Buchtel's front door on the west side was bussed passed the east side to Ellet. A lot to unpack from that time period.
Copied that from DSJ.
So seven teams left in the second round?
Common Core math, duh. Lol