I think you're not reading in between the lines of what the committee has been saying since the jump. They have said repeatedly that OSU is the most complete team and the strength of schedule stuff is used in tie breakers. IMHO they have believed all along that OSU is the best team and LSU and Clemson are a small notch below the Bucs. If OSU beats Wisky and LSU beats Georgia I still think they have already made up their minds. Still think if everyone wins out it will beI would agree with this if the Bucks were playing Minnesota. But a rematch with Whisky throws a bit of a wrench into things. I just don't have a clue as to how the committee will view this game. Do they expect that anythng less then a 35 point win by Ohio State is underachieving? Or do they take the track that I would and expect that rematch games in which one team gets blown out can be particularly tough.
And if the playoff rankings mirror the AP rankings then LSU will have a better resume then Ohio State if they beat Georgia. With Bama & Florida in the top 10 and Auburn at 11 or 12 a win over the #4 Bulldogs makes for a nice body of work.
This is why Minny laying an ostrich egg last week hurt the Buckeyes almost as much as it hurt them IMO.
Of course maybe the place to be is at #2. That way if you win out you really were the best team as it means you beat both Clemson and either Ohio State or LSU. Now that's an impressive resume for any 15 - 0 National Champion.
It really does not matter so much if you are 1, 2, 3, or 4.
YepIf LSU loses (I think they will), How does it go then? OSU, Clemson, Georgia, LSU?
If LSU loses (I think they will), How does it go then? OSU, Clemson, Georgia, LSU?
Curious why you think that.If LSU loses (I think they will), How does it go then? OSU, Clemson, Georgia, LSU?
What happens if both LSU and OSU lose ? Would the CFP committee put two teams in the CFP that did not win their conference championship ?If LSU loses (I think they will), How does it go then? OSU, Clemson, Georgia, LSU?
What happens if both LSU and OSU lose ? Would the CFP committee put two teams in the CFP that did not win their conference championship ?
YepWhat happens if both LSU and OSU lose ? Would the CFP committee put two teams in the CFP that did not win their conference championship ?
Minnesota's loss not good for OSU. Wisconsin lower rated opponent. OSU beating Wisconsin will be dwarfed by LSU beating #4 Georgia. LSU back to #1 and OSU-Clemson in the cards.
This.
Many think it is just a matter of when, not if the playoffs will expand to 8 so it includes all Power 5 conference champs. At that point OOC will not matter as much unless you are looking for one of the 3 at large spots, then it will be a huge metric especially is a W is against a champ that has qualified.
For the same reason I thought it was wrong to jump Ohio State over LSU BEFORE the Michigan game it would be wrong to now put LSU over Ohio State BEFORE the SEC championship game. As impressive as the Tigers beat down of A&M was, the Ohio State beat down of Michigan was more impressive.
I know this won't be a popular position but if LSU beats Georgia then no matter what the BUCKS do against Whisky, LSU should go to #1. This is why I'm so annoyed at Minnesota.
Yeah I think that will change things, though if you are on the 8-9 bubble it will still matter just like it does on the 4-5 bubble now.
When it goes to 8, the top schools will have a less pressure to go undefeated as 2-loss teams will start to become the norm on the bottom half of the bracket.
I would think Oklahoma given a good win over Baylor.
LSU will not take over the one spot unless the Buckeyes lose. The committee had to give them some credit for the Bama win but they have said from the beginning that the Bucks were the most balanced team.
It will be
OSU v Utah/Okla
LSU v Clemson
I imagine LSU goes to #1 with a win over Georgia, but things could be interesting if Ohio State puts an absolute smackdown on Wisconsin. I can't see them going down a spot after winning on the road by four scores in a huge rivalry game against a top-15 opponent.
The committee has limited rhyme or reason to it's decision making, but it would still be hard to justify dropping them a spot in the final rankings if they hammer a top-15 Wisconsin team at a neutral site worse than the beat down they put on them in Columbus earlier this year.
Neither of those top 10 opponents were scoring points in "garbage time". They were scoring after halftime and it nearly cost them twice. It's pretty easy to look up team stats per game and find they are chilling below mid-major teams in yards and points per game.
To an extent it was as in both games LSU opened up 2 TD leads very late in the 4th quarter. We all know the effectiveness of the "prevent" defense.
Having watched all of LSU's games this season their defense is a trouble spot for sure. It's also head scratching as they probably have at least 5 NFL 1st round picks on that side of the ball. Their secondary is ON PAPER particularly strong. IMO the Tigers D is suffering from the same thing the Bucks D suffered from last year - BAD coaching.
Recently, the LSU D played up to their potential in the first half against Bama and for the whole game against A&M. IF and it's a BIG IF the Tigers D continues to play this well they will be hard for anybody to beat.
If LSU loses (I think they will), How does it go then? OSU, Clemson, Georgia, LSU?
Why ? I'd rather be sure that JB gets a shot at the Buckeyes. You really wanna see a B1G grad transfer win the SEC that much, or is it about JB v. tOSU in the Final ?God I hope that doesn't happen
I'd think they would be eliminated from the top 4, but who knows.
Curious why you think that.
Average point spread for LSU 26.6
Average point spread for Georgia 22.5
LSU has probably played a bit stronger schedule. For the 4 common opponents.
Average point spread LSU 22
Average point spread Georgia 11
You think Georgia's defense can handle LSU offense?
Or you thinking something else?
thisYes, I think they would. No way Wisconsin gets in as the Big 10 champ. They would have a way to keep LSU in and still include the SEC champ, which would be Georgia. I don't think Oklahoma or Utah have a stronger resume than OSU with an OSU loss. Especially considering their wins have been pretty dominant all year.
Pretty much agree. But style points might come into play.Yes, I think they would. No way Wisconsin gets in as the Big 10 champ. They would have a way to keep LSU in and still include the SEC champ, which would be Georgia. I don't think Oklahoma or Utah have a stronger resume than OSU with an OSU loss. Especially considering their wins have been pretty dominant all year.