green_genes
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Because it doesn't really affect their competitiveness. Their ratio of students to student-athletes as compared to Eastwood, for example, is much different.
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Because it doesn't really affect their competitiveness. Their ratio of students to student-athletes as compared to Eastwood, for example, is much different.
Bulldog_Pride
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Light bulb moment, I had to look again but these are the boys enrollment numbers at Elmwood and Benton. Benton getting kicked out because of their size and Elmwood coming in to replace them. Isn't that basically the same as saying the league is done with BIG schools but are okay with very LARGE schools? Who were the braniacs behind that LOL.
green_genes
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Elmwood leaving the NBC because of Rossford "recruiting" through open enrollment only to join a conference with Liberty-Benton is another head scratcher.
Was that even any part of their decision?
green_genes
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Eastwood, Lake, Otsego, Maumee: all on Elmwood's schedule in boys' basketball over the next couple of years. Guess who isn't?
A. Parents in the district are having an exponentially higher number of girlsGirls:
Elmwood 139
Liberty 203
B. Every open enroll HS student is a female
Not sure which it is?
Findlay?
St. Ignatius...I win!
Liberty Benton is the school district equivalent of Mr. Steal Your Girl.Girls:
Elmwood 139
Liberty 203
Fostoria?
Bleacher Bum
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I made a Friday night trip to Vanlue a few years ago. Those wearing helmets and pads, playing instruments at halftime, and those waving pom poms on the sidelines seemed to account for a majority of the student body. I'm not sure why 8 man wouldn't be the default option.
How many schools would legit be in this discussion. How many schools are at 20-22 kids or less that are heading toward this reality. I think a lot of people who make these decisions need to realize the interest and numbers in football just aren’t there anymore for some schools. There is no reason any school to have to wait around to see if their opponent is going to cancel on them the week of the game.
CCHS93
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Part of the problem is that Ohio has, I believe, 611 school districts while states with similar populations, like Georgia (about 200 districts) and Illinois (about 70 districts). With the declining population and tax base, it would make sense to consolidate a large number of schools.
Examples that could make sense:
1. Vanlue and Carey
2. Bucyrus and Bucyrus Wynford
3. Van Buren, North Baltimore, and Elmwood
4. Ottoville and Fort Jennings
Tons of other examples. It would be tough on some smaller communities. But perhaps putting the high school in one and middle school in the other or something so both communities still have a piece of it and feel a part of it.
This will save tons of money and hopefully help in the football world as well by not having so many schools on the verge of losing 11 man football.
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All of these schools would probably think this is a great idea...for the OTHER districts you mentioned but not for them because they are doing "just fine".
irish_buffalo
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The stain they call Northwood should be absorbed into Lake.
eastisbest
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No idea why you'd call it a "stain" but Ideally, they'd both go either into Rossford or Eastwood/Pemberville
2112
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I've often considered that if the Toledo Diocese would build a single, large school in say, Bellevue, they could consolidate SMCC, SJCC, and NSP (Calvert might be a bit of a stretch) and be dollars ahead. Of course, I state this with approximately 100% ignorance of how the politics underlying any of this might work.
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irish_buffalo
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Merry Christmas you filthy animals.
The Bucyrus and Wynford school buildings are only about a mile and a half apart from each other.
Bucyrus also has the issue of being landlocked, so to speak. Parts of both the Colonel Crawford and Wynford school district boundaries extend into the Bucyrus city limits.
Most states have county-wide districts in low population areas. I don't think you're ever going to get something like in Ohio and I personally don't think we should try at scale because you're going to decimate small communities and their sense of individualism.
You also picked two states that only have one major population center, as opposed to the three in Ohio....I mean, Chicago Public Schools have 150+ high schools just in that district alone. That makes up a fairly significant amount of districts in Ohio vs. those in Georgia/Illinois.
With some effort the newer or better facilities could be made to house the classes needed. I believe both schools have combined the MS/HS into one building. Make one a HS and the other a MS, or even grades 5-8. Then use the better elementary budling for K-4.
Maple_City_Fan
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Thing is, St. Paul is on strong footing. Don't punish this Parish School because others are failing
Are there advantages to consolidation? Yes
Are there disadvantages? Yes?
Having lived & taught through the consolidations 50 years ago I can tell you the resentment and jealousy lasts for decades.
Putting the high school and middle school in different towns did not make everybody happy then and there is no reason to think it would be any different now.
I want to be a fly on the wall when the state tells Ottoville and Ft Jennings they have to consolidate.
CCHS93
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It would have to come from voters likely.
CCHS93
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Just brainstorming. Cookie cutter approaches definitely wouldnt be good.
Bruce Monnin
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Look at places that have consolidated. The "lesser" town that does not get the school just shrivels up and dies. Any kids still there now have long bus rides which is another incentive for anyone with school age kids to leave, thus accelerating the shriveling effect.
The consolidated school now has more kids who come from distance. More busing, lower percentage who stay for extra-curriculars (sports, drama club, band, etc).
I am not saying it is not necessary at times, but it is a death knell to a small community. Might as well save time, knock down all the buildings and have more farm land.
The consolidated school now has more kids who come from distance. More busing, lower percentage who stay for extra-curriculars (sports, drama club, band, etc).
I am not saying it is not necessary at times, but it is a death knell to a small community. Might as well save time, knock down all the buildings and have more farm land.