Mentor Football 2022

cardzfan1234

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After a subpar 2021 season that saw Mentor lose more games than it had since 1997, which was Triv's first year. They will aim for something better in 2022 behind third year head coach Matt Gray. Some talented seniors, especially on offense, have graduated and left big holes to replace. Two of the biggest names on the team do return: starting QB Jacob Snow and Notre Dame defensive end commit Brenan Vernon. The success of the team will surely rise and fall on the trio of Gray, Snow, and Vernon.

The schedule looks like this:

Week 1 vs Canton McKinley
Week 2 @ St Ignatius
Week 3 vs Riverside
Week 4 vs North Allegheny (PA)
Week 5 OPEN
Week 6 @ Brunswick
Week 7 @ Medina
Week 8 vs Solon
Week 9 vs Strongsville
Week 10 @ Euclid

The addition of Riverside (and not renewing St Edward) is the only eye popping thing about the schedule. For many reasons, I really do like the swap. As for Week 5, I would love to see a team like Walsh Jesuit. The Warriors are coached by former Mentor assistant, Nick Alexander. Massillon also appears to be open. Either one of those teams would be a great addition. Other than that, I have a feeling Mentor may have to go outside the state (or country) to fill it.

Offensively, the biggest return by far is QB Jacob Snow. He dealt with an injury and inconsistent play throughout the season. If he can raise his game up a couple steps, the offense will be fine. Current freshman Scotty Fox filled in for the injured Snow and had some strong moments - especially the Week 5 performance against Clarkson Football North (Canada) in which he threw for over 400 yards and 5 TD's. I don't expect a QB controversy, but it is good to know that Mentor has a very nice backup QB who should be a two year starter in 2023/24. RB Mitchell Waite returns after getting some starts following the season ending injury to Panhorst. Waite was a steady back that showed some flashes at times last season. At receiver, Jordan Stapleton is the one with the most returning experience. He had 12 catches for 129 yards and 1 TD through Week 9 according to the stats on the Mentor Redline page. There are some kids who primarily played JV that will step into the other starting positions that were occupied by dynamic talents Evan Harper and Michael Norwood.

Defensively, Mentor has to find a way to fix things. I don't see how that can ever happen when the coaching staff remains completely in tact, but maybe they can surprise me. Brenan Vernon needs to play like an elite national talent in order for Mentor to reach the bar set so highly by many teams before this one. Along with Vernon, the defensive line also returns Ryan Lawson at tackle. Linebacker could be a position of strength as Collion Orosz showed a lot of potential last year. He is joined by Kadyn Burkholder and Jack Geudling, who both started a bunch of games in 2021. Caleb Pohto is the only returning player in the secondary after a season in which he led the team in interceptions. On special teams, their kicker and punter (Joseph Evans and Matt Moegling) return.

Expectations? Depending on who they schedule in Week 5, I see a 7-3 record at best. The GCC will not have any team that is a certain loss like there was in 2021 with Medina. But with the way Mentor is playing, there may not be one that is a certain win either.
 

bkmk1

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I think it is a good schedule for them. I look at the OOC games first because they have to play their league games, so the OOC games the AD and coach have input into who they would like to add/subtract. And that is a 2 way street. The schools they would like to add need to be available and willing to play and have an opening at the same time. I think their OOC with CM, Iggy, Riverside, NA, is perfect for them this year. Good teams that will challenge them. Now just need to fill week 5. I still keep hoping they could work something out for a yearly game with Erie McDowell or Erie Prep.
 

EaglePride01

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Wondering if the Riverside game is the first byproduct we are seeing from the expanded playoff, or whether Riverside just likes the team they have coming up and thinks this is their best shot to take on the Cardinals in the post-Triv era. Multi-year deal or one year?
 

MentorGrad2002

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Wondering if the Riverside game is the first byproduct we are seeing from the expanded playoff, or whether Riverside just likes the team they have coming up and thinks this is their best shot to take on the Cardinals in the post-Triv era. Multi-year deal or one year?
2 year home and home
 

MentorGrad2002

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After a subpar 2021 season that saw Mentor lose more games than it had since 1997, which was Triv's first year. They will aim for something better in 2022 behind third year head coach Matt Gray. Some talented seniors, especially on offense, have graduated and left big holes to replace. Two of the biggest names on the team do return: starting QB Jacob Snow and Notre Dame defensive end commit Brenan Vernon. The success of the team will surely rise and fall on the trio of Gray, Snow, and Vernon.

The schedule looks like this:

Week 1 vs Canton McKinley
Week 2 @ St Ignatius
Week 3 vs Riverside
Week 4 vs North Allegheny (PA)
Week 5 OPEN
Week 6 @ Brunswick
Week 7 @ Medina
Week 8 vs Solon
Week 9 vs Strongsville
Week 10 @ Euclid

The addition of Riverside (and not renewing St Edward) is the only eye popping thing about the schedule. For many reasons, I really do like the swap. As for Week 5, I would love to see a team like Walsh Jesuit. The Warriors are coached by former Mentor assistant, Nick Alexander. Massillon also appears to be open. Either one of those teams would be a great addition. Other than that, I have a feeling Mentor may have to go outside the state (or country) to fill it.

Offensively, the biggest return by far is QB Jacob Snow. He dealt with an injury and inconsistent play throughout the season. If he can raise his game up a couple steps, the offense will be fine. Current freshman Scotty Fox filled in for the injured Snow and had some strong moments - especially the Week 5 performance against Clarkson Football North (Canada) in which he threw for over 400 yards and 5 TD's. I don't expect a QB controversy, but it is good to know that Mentor has a very nice backup QB who should be a two year starter in 2023/24. RB Mitchell Waite returns after getting some starts following the season ending injury to Panhorst. Waite was a steady back that showed some flashes at times last season. At receiver, Jordan Stapleton is the one with the most returning experience. He had 12 catches for 129 yards and 1 TD through Week 9 according to the stats on the Mentor Redline page. There are some kids who primarily played JV that will step into the other starting positions that were occupied by dynamic talents Evan Harper and Michael Norwood.

Defensively, Mentor has to find a way to fix things. I don't see how that can ever happen when the coaching staff remains completely in tact, but maybe they can surprise me. Brenan Vernon needs to play like an elite national talent in order for Mentor to reach the bar set so highly by many teams before this one. Along with Vernon, the defensive line also returns Ryan Lawson at tackle. Linebacker could be a position of strength as Collion Orosz showed a lot of potential last year. He is joined by Kadyn Burkholder and Jack Geudling, who both started a bunch of games in 2021. Caleb Pohto is the only returning player in the secondary after a season in which he led the team in interceptions. On special teams, their kicker and punter (Joseph Evans and Matt Moegling) return.

Expectations? Depending on who they schedule in Week 5, I see a 7-3 record at best. The GCC will not have any team that is a certain loss like there was in 2021 with Medina. But with the way Mentor is playing, there may not be one that is a certain win either.
Great summary. I'm hoping to hear about a DC change but that's a decade overdue so I expect the status quo of not trying to adjust and win it all down the road

Massillon or Walsh Jesuit would be great in week 5
 

cardzfan1234

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Wondering if the Riverside game is the first byproduct we are seeing from the expanded playoff, or whether Riverside just likes the team they have coming up and thinks this is their best shot to take on the Cardinals in the post-Triv era. Multi-year deal or one year?
It is likely a combination of factors. One, expanded playoff. Two, Riverside feels pretty good about their upcoming classes. Three, they have to be aware that Mentor in this new era is much more competitive than they would've been for most of the previous 20 years.

Riverside's first four games are Perry (a team they have notoriously lost to), Aurora, Mentor, and Chardon. They obviously feel good about their group to add Mentor to their existing schedule.
 

BlackandGold

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Wondering if the Riverside game is the first byproduct we are seeing from the expanded playoff, or whether Riverside just likes the team they have coming up and thinks this is their best shot to take on the Cardinals in the post-Triv era. Multi-year deal or one year?
It appears to be a two-year deal according to Arbiter. At Mentor in 2022 and at Riverside in 2023.
 

tig62

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We are both open week 5. Let your AD know. With the expanded playoffs it makes sense for two big publics to play instead of you guys playing multiple D1 private schools
I did pass this info onto our head coach. He replied that Massillon has open dates, as of now, for weeks 3, 7, 8, 9. Evidently week 5 looks to have been tentatively scheduled.
 

MentorGrad2002

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I did pass this info onto our head coach. He replied that Massillon has open dates, as of now, for weeks 3, 7, 8, 9. Evidently week 5 looks to have been tentatively scheduled.
Ah ok. I assume it isn't us then so that's unfortunate. Good try though. Maybe in later years
 

MentorGrad2002

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Any updates on week 5? Haven't heard of any talks.

Looks like not much available in state. Fear it's another out of state team.

Ignatius needs to be moved to week 4 or 5. A lot easier to find teams in the first 3 weeks
 

cardzfan1234

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Taking a stab at an early 2022 depth chart, keeping in mind that much can change in the next 7 months:

QB - Jacob Snow (sophomore Scotty Fox as the backup)
RB - Mitchell Waite
WR - Jordan Stapleton
WR - Nick Jares??
WR -
WR -
OL - Michael McClure (only returning starter)
OL - Jack O'Neil, Jared Hines, and Joey Jonke were backups in 2021 that are returning

DL - Brenan Vernon
DL - Ryan Lawson
DL - ?
LB - Collin Orosz
LB - Jack Geudling
LB - Kadyn Burkholder
LB - ?
Secondary - Caleb Pohto plus ??

Special teams: punter and kicker (Matt Moegling and Joseph Evans both return)
 

MentorGrad2002

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Anything on scrimmage opponents? I see Fitch is listed as a first one. Are kenston and Chardon continuing ?

And anything on week 5 rumors ?
 

MentorGrad2002

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So saw the Matt freeman social media post on Vernon being 6 5 and 285 pounds now. Please tell me he's playing inside at DT and we will be smart enough to have a 4 man line and create havoc up the middle ?

I'm not counting on it unless funk finally retired though. He's going to be even slower at DE and a smart coach would use him inside. That's where he is going to end up in college anyways
 

Cardgrad90

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Taking a stab at an early 2022 depth chart, keeping in mind that much can change in the next 7 months:

QB - Jacob Snow (sophomore Scotty Fox as the backup)
RB - Mitchell Waite
WR - Jordan Stapleton
WR - Nick Jares??
WR -
WR -
OL - Michael McClure (only returning starter)
OL - Jack O'Neil, Jared Hines, and Joey Jonke were backups in 2021 that are returning

DL - Brenan Vernon
DL - Ryan Lawson
DL - ?
LB - Collin Orosz
LB - Jack Geudling
LB - Kadyn Burkholder
LB - ?
Secondary - Caleb Pohto plus ??

Special teams: punter and kicker (Matt Moegling and Joseph Evans both return)
Shelly at safety with Pohto. The 2024 team has some strong linebacker talent, could definitely see one those boys stepping in that open slot.
 

Cardgrad90

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Shelly at safety with Pohto. The 2024 team has some strong linebacker talent, could definitely see one those boys stepping in that open slot.
Taking a stab at an early 2022 depth chart, keeping in mind that much can change in the next 7 months:

QB - Jacob Snow (sophomore Scotty Fox as the backup)
RB - Mitchell Waite
WR - Jordan Stapleton
WR - Nick Jares??
WR -
WR -
OL - Michael McClure (only returning starter)
OL - Jack O'Neil, Jared Hines, and Joey Jonke were backups in 2021 that are returning

DL - Brenan Vernon
DL - Ryan Lawson
DL - ?
LB - Collin Orosz
LB - Jack Geudling
LB - Kadyn Burkholder
LB - ?
Secondary - Caleb Pohto plus ??

Special teams: punter and kicker (Matt Moegling and Joseph Evans both return)
Is there only one running back needed or available? Any word on other options in the event the Cards go to a two man backfield or Waite is out?
 

MentorGrad2002

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I still don't get keeping St Ignatius in week 2. You know the GCC has 6 teams. You know weeks 4 and 5 are harder to schedule because those are conference weeks for many leagues. Why not move the every year Ignatius game to one of those weeks ?

If Mentor ends up with a bye week as a public school , that's a gigantic failure
 

FightingCardinal

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Is there only one running back needed or available? Any word on other options in the event the Cards go to a two man backfield or Waite is out?
I'm hoping Makel Harrison gets a shot to play at tailback as a junior. Mason Coughlin is probably bound for JV this season as a sophomore.
 

MentorGrad2002

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North Allegheny backed out of our home game as part of the agreed upon home and home. That and the home cooking they got should stop us from going into PA again anytime soon..

Clarkson in week 4 now per arbiter. Gigantic blah. Don't even think Canadian teams count in harbins anymore. Since almost everyone makes it anyways, I guess that doesn't matter
 

bkmk1

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North Allegheny backed out of our home game as part of the agreed upon home and home. That and the home cooking they got should stop us from going into PA again anytime soon..

Clarkson in week 4 now per arbiter. Gigantic blah. Don't even think Canadian teams count in harbins anymore. Since almost everyone makes it anyways, I guess that doesn't matter
That is garbage. I don't know if they signed a contract or not. But even if it was a verbal agreement and they pull out, there needs be some sort of sanction against NA. That is complete garbage when teams do that. Schedule a home and home and play their game at home but then don't travel to uphold the home and home. Maybe if a school gets fined about $25000 or more, they wouldn't be doing that crap anymore.
 

MentorGrad2002

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That is garbage. I don't know if they signed a contract or not. But even if it was a verbal agreement and they pull out, there needs be some sort of sanction against NA. That is complete garbage when teams do that. Schedule a home and home and play their game at home but then don't travel to uphold the home and home. Maybe if a school gets fined about $25000 or more, they wouldn't be doing that crap anymore.
Wasn't signed but this is high school. Be a man of your word and honor the agreement. They backed out and scheduled Erie McDowell and I heard wouldnt even communicate with our school. Cowards and they should be called out for it
 

cardzfan1234

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Mentor has/had open weeks in Week 4 and 5. If they fill it with a Canadian school and a bye week, this will be a massive failure for the kids and the program. I was OK moving on from scheduling St Eds, but I would rather play them than have a bye week. It shouldn't be this difficult to fill out a schedule. If it is, I worry what Mentor's schedule would look like if they ever had to be independent.
 
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