Mentor Cardinals Football 2019

Wildcat97

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Coach Triv goes for career win No. 199 this week as Mentor hosts a team from Canada for the first time I can remember...probably the first time ever.

Back in July, I did a little preview on Clarkson Football North. They are essentially a prep football academy in Ontario that seeks to attract a lot of the best football players up North that are looking to play American football style in college. Now that their sister school (St Joe's Football North) recently and unexpectedly shut down their football program (possibly the school too??), I wonder how many of those guys just transferred over to Clarkson Football North. The two Canadian teams were supposed to meet this past weekend, but that didn't happen. Clarkson had been the far superior team, but if some of the kids jumped ship it could only help their depth.

Due to their crazy schedule, I don't expect Football North to win more than two games this year. They are 1-1 right now and only have an 8 game schedule per Joe Eitel. This is not going to be a glorious harbin victory compared to having Glenville in this slot a season ago. Lorain is Football North's best remaining shot. They certainly have some individual talent, but they will have a hard time competing with the depth of programs like Mentor, St Ignatius, St Edward, and the GCL. Football North has some big boys on the line and an experienced QB committed to an FCS school. It is hard to know what exactly to expect. If Mentor has a letdown week after the highs of the last two wins, they could find themselves in a game for a bit.

If Mentor brings their A game, I have to believe this should be a very comfortable win.
Have seen them for a couple years. Better than West Toronto Prep by far, but honestly wont be competition. Best comparison might be a non glenville Senate school possibly.
 

cardzfan1234

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Have seen them for a couple years. Better than West Toronto Prep by far, but honestly wont be competition. Best comparison might be a non glenville Senate school possibly.
You’ve seen them and I haven’t - so who am I to judge? But that statement seems ridiculous to me. Never in a million years would Rhodes, JFK, or East Tech beat Cathedral Prep or even Lorain as Football North did last year. Those teams can’t even beat Brooklyn or Parma. Never would any of the non-Glenville Senate teams have the talent, depth, discipline, or coaching that I expect Football North to have.

I know that Ignatius whopped on them more than any team in Ohio last year. So obviously you’re basing a lot of your opinion on that. Football North didn’t exactly get run off the field last year against Elder, Moeller, or St X. They lost those three games by an average of 13.3 points per game. The final scores were probably closer than the game felt I am sure. But imagine if John Marshall or Collinwood played the GCL? Come on, that’s a ridiculous comparison.
 

Wildcat97

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You’ve seen them and I haven’t - so who am I to judge? But that statement seems ridiculous to me. Never in a million years would Rhodes, JFK, or East Tech beat Cathedral Prep or even Lorain as Football North did last year. Those teams can’t even beat Brooklyn or Parma. Never would any of the non-Glenville Senate teams have the talent, depth, discipline, or coaching that I expect Football North to have.

I know that Ignatius whopped on them more than any team in Ohio last year. So obviously you’re basing a lot of your opinion on that. Football North didn’t exactly get run off the field last year against Elder, Moeller, or St X. They lost those three games by an average of 13.3 points per game. The final scores were probably closer than the game felt I am sure. But imagine if John Marshall or Collinwood played the GCL? Come on, that’s a ridiculous comparison.
Based off of more than just 1 year. It is an opinion. Everyone entitled to one. Bottom line, the clock will run.
 

bkmk1

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Here is a list of some of the college talent on Football North's roster:

QB Quincy Vaughn (6'4, 225, Team MVP from 2018): committed to Old Dominion
DB Mick Malcom-Bell (6'1, 175): offers from Minnesota and Kent
DB Peter Kemeni (6'1, 185): committed to Ohio U
OL Justin Stevens (6'6, 285): offers from several MAC schools
DE Reignings Awah (6'4, 235): committed to Kent
LB Cade Cote (6'4, 215): FCS offers

They have several others on the team headed to some level of post-HS football. Many will probably stay in Canada. Some might find their way into FCS or DII offers in the states.

Football North's last game was August 23 at Erie Cathedral Prep, the winners of the last three state titles in Class 4A. Prep won the game 53-34. QB Quincy Vaughn was 20-28 for 271 yards. Prep hosts St Eds this week. Prep is a great program, but offensively they are no better than Mentor. If they can put up 50+ on Football North, Mentor should be able to name their score on offense - as long as they take care of the football. Defensively, it would be nice to see Mentor really shine this week.
Also in 2018 Football North came to Erie and upset Cathedral Prep.
 
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cardzfan1234

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Based off of more than just 1 year. It is an opinion. Everyone entitled to one. Bottom line, the clock will run.
That’s true, we’re all entitled to opinions. I gave lots of support for my opinion on why that comparison is ridiculous. Care to expand how they remind you of Rhodes, East Tech, JFK, etc? It’s not talent. It’s probably not discipline. I’m curious.

One thing I do agree with is that if Mentor plays well, it should be a comfortable win. They have more college football players on their roster, but they can’t compete with the rest of what a program like Mentor has to offer.
 
Mentor's game against visiting Football North has been moved to a 6:30 p.m. kickoff at The JTO on Sept. 13 to beat the forecasted storms coming into the area.
 

cardzfan1234

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In one half of football (and now the final score due to storms), Mentor beats Football North (Canada) by a score of 28-15.

Let down game? Yeah, there was some of that...especially on defense. Mentor had a pretty dull game. Maybe in the second half they would have looked a lot better. Maybe not. Football North was much better than the likes of East Tech (who got crushed by DVII Newbury last night), Rhodes, JFK, etc. They have some talent, but not much depth. The QB wasn't perfect with his throws, but he has a strong arm. Mentor's defense made Football North look better than they are, but this is a team you can't dismiss. Their lines were pretty big and played pretty decent. Mentor had way too much trouble tackling their bowling ball of a running back.

Not much Mentor could take away from one half of football against these guys. It didn't help that Trobel missed the 2nd quarter. Mentor's offense had the ball five times. Three touchdowns (one score was a pick six), one missed FG, and then their final drive of the half stalled out as the half expired. Offense wasn't super sharp, but they did fine all things considered. The defense forced two interceptions, but simply gave up too many yards.
 

Worm02

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In one half of football (and now the final score due to storms), Mentor beats Football North (Canada) by a score of 28-15.

Let down game? Yeah, there was some of that...especially on defense. Mentor had a pretty dull game. Maybe in the second half they would have looked a lot better. Maybe not. Football North was much better than the likes of East Tech (who got crushed by DVII Newbury last night), Rhodes, JFK, etc. They have some talent, but not much depth. The QB wasn't perfect with his throws, but he has a strong arm. Mentor's defense made Football North look better than they are, but this is a team you can't dismiss. Their lines were pretty big and played pretty decent. Mentor had way too much trouble tackling their bowling ball of a running back.

Not much Mentor could take away from one half of football against these guys. It didn't help that Trobel missed the 2nd quarter. Mentor's offense had the ball five times. Three touchdowns (one score was a pick six), one missed FG, and then their final drive of the half stalled out as the half expired. Offense wasn't super sharp, but they did fine all things considered. The defense forced two interceptions, but simply gave up too many yards.
Football North isn't a bad program at all. Definitely not what you think of when you hear about Canadian football teams. They play all American teams (quite a few in Ohio) and I'm sure that their kids continually get better. Props to Mentor on getting the victory!
 

cardzfan1234

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Kipp had his biggest passing game so far with 169 passing yards in just a half. He ran for three scores as well. Mentor surrendered 170 yards to Football North in a half. Not their best. The article says Football North has 7 DI recruits (likely including FCS). They have some talent for sure. I think they will beat Lorain, but I would be very surprised if they beat Ignatius, Eds, or the GCL teams on their schedule.

The team had already planned to drive back to Canada through the night, so any delay was impossible. Too bad for both teams that they didn't get to finish.
 

cardzfan1234

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For the first time since 2011 (I think), Mentor is ranked No. 1 in the AP poll. That opportunity at a perfect regular season was spoiled in Week 10 at Twinsburg in probably the most shocking loss in the Triv era. The Week 10 loss to Elyria in 2015 and even the 2007 loss at Euclid are right up there too. But as good as Mentor played that season, I couldn't believe it all ended in Week 10. Twinsburg was really, really good that night though.

Mentor hasn't had an undefeated regular season since 2003. After they opened last year with two wins over Eds/Ignatius, I felt pretty confident it was going to happen. An injury to Kipp put a dent in those hopes as Solon upset Mentor in overtime in Week 8. I think the GCC is much deeper than last year. But I don't think the #2 and #3 teams are as good as they were last year. I also am not convinced (yet) that the 2019 Mentor team is better than 2018 though. Should be interesting. In my eyes, the biggest threat to 10-0 is against Euclid.
 
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