Fan of good basketball, not necessarily Taft. Look through the SWDAB site over the years, many times especially in D3/D4 teams with an average record are seeded above teams with a great record. That was my only point, it is not an extreme situation.
Martin RPI
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I get your point you are trying to make but the fact a there is no system known that will take every situation for 800 teams and deal with it perfectly. Even teams with perfect records are not always given top billing. The beautiful thing is with basketball everyone makes it in and the games decide who is the best. Not a formula, not a board and not a fan.
Diebler33
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that’s not any different than what he did last year lmao.
I believe he likes to wait until all teams have played 6-7 games. It'll also be nice when they release which teams are in which district too (for the NW district).
January 8
TribeGuy95
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There's no way the NWDAB is watching the rankings before determining districts to better the cause that this method is needed is there?
No.
I worded that poorly. It would be nice for the NWDAB to hurry up and release the districts. Especially since Martin RPI relies on that so he can rank the assigned teams in each district accordingly.
TribeGuy95
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I don't think you did. Is it possible that NWDAB is watching the rankings now til they are released publicly to avoid putting a high number of Teams in one district say (D4 Elida) or to balance out some D4 districts ahead time?
Woodmore as a D4 team is going to be an interesting test case since they only have 3 D4 opponents on their current schedule.
Woodmore as a D4 team is going to be an interesting test case since they only have 3 D4 opponents on their current schedule.
If you read through this thread (especially focusing on the Taft discussion) Woodmore better win a lot of those games against bigger schools or they will be seeded low.
If you lose games you are ranked low in any system. Ask Nick Saban.
Ha, I thought my comment would get your attention
I knew mine would get a reply.Ha, I thought my comment would get your attention
northwest07
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NW District basketball seeds to be determined by Martin RPI
The computer system replaces votes by coaches.
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This whole system is flawed. Look at the football rankings he had.....New Bremen in the 20's. Antwerp in the top 5? That is not a knock on Antwerp, but even looking at his rankings from last year at the end of the year. He had 4 teams from SE Ohio in the top 10.....when was the last time a SE Ohio team was even good in d4 basketball......He had richmont hts at 6 or 7 and they won the whole thing by 25+
From the article - “From the OHSAA’s perspective, that was the thing they liked the most about it was getting rid of the coaches' vote,” said Brayton Martin, the site’s founder, “because they’re well aware that those coaches' votes can be a little off.”
NW District basketball seeds to be determined by Martin RPI
The computer system replaces votes by coaches.
This coming from a guy whose rankings had the D3 state champion ranked in the 40s
Read through this thread, you and I could be soulmates
Diebler33
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The computer rankings for the playoff seeding had New Bremen at 22. RPI had them at 20. Would've been Top 5 in both if their QB played the final game of the season but he was out with an injury. But good luck finding a statewide rankings system that can factor in injuries for 700+ football teams lol.
Also RH was #1 in D4 & Hiland & River were the only SEO teams in the D4 Top 10.
Every year. They're from Berlin Hiland.
In football you only have to be top 16 in a region and NB clearly was. I would guess they gladly would take a couple losses against great programs for the competition and lower ranking in preparing them for tournament. Looks like it worked perfectly.
Diebler33
Member
Right on...Man, SWOHHoops is gonna be SOOO pissed when the SW schools use RPI for seeding next year
Buckeye2220
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Can the rankings from last season be found anywhere? I checked the Martin RPI site but they have been taken down.
It would be nice to look at last year's rankings and see how the seeding would have turned out
It would be nice to look at last year's rankings and see how the seeding would have turned out
It takes a lot more than changing high school basketball seeding to make me pissed.....but this was really funny! Well done!Right on...Man, SWOHHoops is gonna be SOOO pissed when the SW schools use RPI for seeding next year
He probably scrubbed the D3 rankings since they weren't close to reality
I have never heard how college football scrubbed their ranking process after the 2014-45 season. Something had to be off when the AP #5 team wins the title. These guys do this for a living. Not just a bunch of teachers working in their free time.
You wanna know what system wouldn’t have had New Bremen ranked in the 20s? A vote by the coaches.
I can't like this enough!!
Last season coaches: Taft is #1
Last season RPI: Taft is 40
Reality: Taft is state champs
Please provide the link to the statewide coaches poll that had Taft at #1.
This was heading into sectional week across Ohio Last year. Richmond Hts was #6 (flat out embarrassing), Tri Village #11 was easy a top 5 team last year.
no disrespect, but usually not great- Trimble, River, Mathews--all in the top 10 come on man.
He completely misses the entire west central part of the state. New Bremen, Marion Local, Spencerville are the only 3 teams that were worthy of being ranked last year?
My point to this system is a win in SE Ohio or NE Ohio (outside of Richmond Hts) is not the same as a win in the MAC. It is not apples to apples.