Mark Solis to Olentangy

EagleFan said:
Do kids from Olentangy district head to private schools much (DeSales or Watterson)?
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Generally, and it's not a hard and fast rule, kids from the NE areas like Westerville go to Desales And kids from the Dublin/Powell area go to Watterson. Olentangy LSD doesn't send a great amount because of the proximity, but there are some that go for various reasons; devout Catholics, family legacy, etc.
 
Saw Coach Solis today at the Ohio State Senior 1-day sporting his Blue & Gold colors for Olentangy. Good luck coach and welcome to Central Ohio!!!
 
Oil Filter said:
One would think that's obvious to anyone who has any knowledge of public education. Teachers have adopted a business model which devalues initiative and ambition in favor of seniority and compliance. They choose to be treated all the same; differentiation is discouraged. One's as good as the next.
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Oilcan -- I rarely agree with you, especially on your defense of the Big Red Rape Crew, but you are spot on here, vis a vie Teachers commoditizing themselves , and/or allowing their union to do it for them.

Everything is: "Education + years of service". That's it. That's even how some refer to themselves, e.g. "I'm Masters plus 10", etc.

They haven't helped matters by fighting real evaluations either. They fight standardized testing, but have allowed their Bargaining Unit to standardize them.
 
Oil Filter said:
One would think that's obvious to anyone who has any knowledge of public education. Teachers have adopted a business model which devalues initiative and ambition in favor of seniority and compliance. They choose to be treated all the same; differentiation is discouraged. One's as good as the next.

Consider an analogy to McDonald's. Do you pick which burger you get from the warming rack? You don't. And you usually get the one that's been there the longest -- although there's no assurance that it's any better than any other.
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I do see your point and yes I do know more than enough about public education to recognize that there's quite a bit of truth to that. I don't think that significantly changing that system would work, though, and the truth is that districts still have the opportunity to hire the best teaching candidate out of the pool of applicants for an open position. Quite often, especially for a position such as secondary social studies, districts will receive hundreds or thousands of applications.

Lambeau Fields said:
Oilcan -- I rarely agree with you, especially on your defense of the Big Red Rape Crew, but you are spot on here, vis a vie Teachers commoditizing themselves , and/or allowing their union to do it for them.

Everything is: "Education + years of service". That's it. That's even how some refer to themselves, e.g. "I'm Masters plus 10", etc.

They haven't helped matters by fighting real evaluations either. They fight standardized testing, but have allowed their Bargaining Unit to standardize them.
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Real evaluations? You mean like using student test scores to measure their value? It's an idea that studies have shown is preposterous.

To some degree, I do agree with you both that teachers have become a bit too much like widgets. On the other hand, it's a trade-off they make because of a lack of trust (based on experience, in many cases) of those making the decisions about hiring/firing.
 
Bennies'01 said:
Real evaluations? You mean like using student test scores to measure their value? It's an idea that studies have shown is preposterous.
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Sorry proud OEA member, my apologies for ruffling your feathers. A.) I can produce a "study" to prove anything I want to prove and B.) There are other evaulation methods besides "test scores" on which evaluations can be based and C.) The concept of tying evaluations to test scores has never been practiced on a wide enough scale for a long enough period to ever prove or disprove its effectiveness.
 
Bennies'01 said:
To some degree, I do agree with you both that teachers have become a bit too much like widgets. On the other hand, it's a trade-off they make because of a lack of trust (based on experience, in many cases) of those making the decisions about hiring/firing.
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ROFLMAO!! You used "teacher" and "firing" in the same paragraph. In the context of public schools no less. That is just about the most hysterical thing I have EVER heard. Public school teacher firings are so rare as to be statistically insignificant. When they are fired, it is for gross misconduct (porn, sex with students, etc.) . I've never, ever, never-ever, heard of one being fired for incompetitence. You and I both know there are thousands of incompetitent teachers. Why is their profession immune from competetency based dismissals?
 
What is Solis' doing about his staff? Are most of the guys from the old staff staying on? I read on another board that the previous staff was upset about the hire. Does anyone know what's up?
 
Here's what ThisWeekSports.com has on the hire.

http://www.thisweeknews.com/content...rtedly-accepts-coaching-job-at-olentangy.html

Anyway, as a matter of historical perspective, I would characterize Olentangy this way...

Olentangy was essentially considered the "middle of nowhere" in 1980s/1990s the same way Dublin and Hilliard used to be considered the "middle of nowhere" in the 1960s/1970s. So, Dublin and Hilliard "suburbanized" before Olentangy, but when people in Dublin and Hilliard got tired of all of the corn fields becoming houses, they started moving to Olentangy.

Well, lo & behold, the same thing that happened to Dublin and Hilliard happened to Olentangy. When I was growing up, no one ever talked about "Powell" or "Lewis Center." Most folks generically referred to all of it as "Delaware County," and they generally couldn't quote you the names of the townships. It was just one big blob on the other side of the Franklin County line.

Now, things are much different. A lot of the "soccer moms" in the Olentangy school district are girls who grew up in Dublin and Hilliard (I know several and they do generally drink a lot of wine), as well as the newer people who moved into metro Columbus from elsewhere.

I can tell you that a lot of people never imagined the $500,000+ houses that would built "way out there." It's to the point that the median house in the district runs almost $300,000.

http://www.sdelawarecohomes.com/real-estate-in-olentangy-schools-february-2013/

The median in Hilliard (just for comparison's sake), runs much closer to $200,000, probably somewhere around $225,000, if I had to make a semi-educated guess. Part of that is because "Olentangy" (broadly defined) is on the other side of Dublin away from Hilliard.

So, you have a lot of folks in "Olentangy" (once again, broadly defined) who want "Dublin stuff," but they don't want to pay "Dublin prices."
 
Good post, FW, though you've just described nearly every growing outlying suburban area around the mid to major midwest cities. That's basically how suburbs are born.

Also, remember your sales-price numbers are skewed by builder financing and by larger land tracts. There aren't as many 10+ acre lots with single-family homes being sold in Hilliard and virtually none in Dublin, whereas that can normal in many parts of the Olentangy SD.

Hopefully, CatAlum is reading the posts such as yours and he can chime in with actual knowledge of the Olentangy area next time it comes up, instead of what his buddy told him or what he finds on google.
 
Steel Valley FB said:
That never stopped you before!


Jk! :)
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OK, SV.... I made the observation that I agreed with FWC and as I said earlier in the thread that the reason most folks moved out to Olentangy was for the schools. I'd also say, that even though there are a lot of pricey homes in OLSD, you will get a new home with a lot of square footage, so in relative terms -- compared to say Upper Arlington or Bexley -- housing is a bit more affordable.

Now fire away... :)
 
That was strictly a joke. I don't recall a single post of yours, honestly. I just couldn't pass it up. ;)

My only comment was going to be that it's even cheaper than you realize when you factor in the builder financing. Two year rate buy downs are very common with nearly all new developments in central Ohio. It also inflates the recorded sales price, thus my comment to FW. It's applicable when comparing the new builds to existing homes found in UA, etc.
 
Poor Mark Solis. This thread started about him and ended with a discussion of "soccer moms" and 3-2-1 buy-downs.

What a "welcome" to central Ohio that is.....:rolleyes:
 
Lambeau Fields said:
Poor Mark Solis. This thread started about him and ended with a discussion of "soccer moms" and 3-2-1 buy-downs.

What a "welcome" to central Ohio that is.....:rolleyes:
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Solis never struck me as someone who would care about what was said on a message board. I hope he does well at Olentangy.
 
Lambeau Fields said:
Poor Mark Solis. This thread started about him and ended with a discussion of "soccer moms" and 3-2-1 buy-downs.

What a "welcome" to central Ohio that is.....:rolleyes:
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Well, he will have to get used to the idea that most folks are more interested in their educational value per tax dollar than how the football is doing. Even though many of the football teams are more successful these days, Central Ohioans tend to be very picky about their schools first and foremost.

I imagine that tends to make being a superintendent or school board member around Columbus a rather unpleasant job. I certainly wouldn't sign up for it willingly.

On the plus side, Columbus does have a lot of hot soccer moms. So, that isn't all bad. ;)
 
FormerWildcat said:
Well, he will have to get used to the idea that most folks are more interested in their educational value per tax dollar than how the football is doing. Even though many of the football teams are more successful these days, Central Ohioans tend to be very picky about their schools first and foremost.

I imagine that tends to make being a superintendent or school board member around Columbus a rather unpleasant job. I certainly wouldn't sign up for it willingly.

On the plus side, Columbus does have a lot of hot soccer moms. So, that isn't all bad. ;)
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It's true, but I can't see it affecting him directly.
 
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