Manchester's Jay Brophy Retires

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Hey Sheldon that’s twice you’ve taken shots at Bohley’s coaching record. Nothing said on this forum is going to change the hire, but to say he can’t coach, because he coached at Atwater Waterloo and Chippewa is ignorant. He’s won a state coach of the year, he’s took Chippewa to an elite 8, he has an inland coach of the year, and a simple Google search shows a PTC County coach of the year. So before you take shots at someone’s coaching record at those two schools, at least acknowledge the fact that the new HC has never even called a play.
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100% look at what Waterloo has done since he left? Uh yeah not good. Take a look at the history of Chippewa before him. 1 winning season in the 70s. 3 straight playoff appearances for a school that has 1 in its existence. Lost and coached against a Coldwater team that...you can look them up too! The community in doylestown isn't quite the same as Manchester either. He is loved and respected there because he has done things that they have never done EVER!

(Little known fact the Elite 8 team. How many coaches were on staff for a team that went 9-3. 4 coaches because administration couldn't get anyone in building to help. He has done more with way less)

Now your asking someone who was "underutilized" AKA wasn't trusted eith responsibility as a football coach and basketball coach.
 
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Part of me thinks The Chester is still back in the days of Tom Melody writing in the Akron Wreaking Urinal, the Red Pepper Steak House on Barber Road, Billy Soule on Channel 23, Howie Chizek on The Talk of Akron WNIR, the smell of popcorn at Rolling Acres near the fountains and escalator, and Acme Click.....not Acme Fresh Market.
 
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As a lifetime Panther, I like this hire. It's time to turn the page from the Koach legend. There will be a new school building and new stadium in 2024, might as well move forward. Stacy will have one year in the old stadium to take in all the smells and "aura" of the old place, that will give him some old time perspective of the program. He'll get whatever else he needs from the fence posts.

The comments about lack of experience remind me of a time (long ago) when a local school hired another inexperienced coach to follow the footsteps of a retiring legend that had a .680 winning percentage over a 25 year career. The locals were up in arms, crying how could our school hire THAT coach. THAT coach was only about 30 years old and had one year of HC experience, which was a 3-7 stint at Coventry (you know, the cradle of coaches known as Coventry). Anyway, this happened about 50 years ago and THAT coach was named Jim France and the rest of the story y'all know!
 
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7Diamond said:
As a lifetime Panther, I like this hire. It's time to turn the page from the Koach legend. There will be a new school building and new stadium in 2024, might as well move forward. Stacy will have one year in the old stadium to take in all the smells and "aura" of the old place, that will give him some old time perspective of the program. He'll get whatever else he needs from the fence posts.

The comments about lack of experience remind me of a time (long ago) when a local school hired another inexperienced coach to follow the footsteps of a retiring legend that had a .680 winning percentage over a 25 year career. The locals were up in arms, crying how could our school hire THAT coach. THAT coach was only about 30 years old and had one year of HC experience, which was a 3-7 stint at Coventry (you know, the cradle of coaches known as Coventry). Anyway, this happened about 50 years ago and THAT coach was named Jim France and the rest of the story y'all know!
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This comment is amazing and totally Southern Summit County Portage Lakes Amazing like the Red Pepper salad bar and old Brown Derby steak house on Waterloo Road.
 
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RedRiderRTR said:
Hey Sheldon that’s twice you’ve taken shots at Bohley’s coaching record. Nothing said on this forum is going to change the hire, but to say he can’t coach, because he coached at Atwater Waterloo and Chippewa is ignorant. He’s won a state coach of the year, he’s took Chippewa to an elite 8, he has an inland coach of the year, and a simple Google search shows a PTC County coach of the year. So before you take shots at someone’s coaching record at those two schools, at least acknowledge the fact that the new HC has never even called a play.
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RedRiderRTR said:
Hey Sheldon that’s twice you’ve taken shots at Bohley’s coaching record. Nothing said on this forum is going to change the hire, but to say he can’t coach, because he coached at Atwater Waterloo and Chippewa is ignorant. He’s won a state coach of the year, he’s took Chippewa to an elite 8, he has an inland coach of the year, and a simple Google search shows a PTC County coach of the year. So before you take shots at someone’s coaching record at those two schools, at least acknowledge the fact that the new HC has never even called a play.
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Not taking shots just sharing info … numbers are numbers
 
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sheldoncooper said:
Not taking shots just sharing info … numbers are numbers
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And that analytical approach is why the Browns blow. You have no idea what coaching at some of those schools is like. Extremely tight budget, pay to play, kids that come from far than less ideal circumstances. But yeah, lets talk winning percentages
 
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Helmet guy said:
And that analytical approach is why the Browns blow. You have no idea what coaching at some of those schools is like. Extremely tight budget, pay to play, kids that come from far than less ideal circumstances. But yeah, lets talk winning percentages
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Damn, only took 8 pages for someone to complain about using numbers to evaluate sports
 
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Helmet guy said:
And that analytical approach is why the Browns blow. You have no idea what coaching at some of those schools is like. Extremely tight budget, pay to play, kids that come from far than less ideal circumstances. But yeah, lets talk winning percentages
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Why is Brophy gone ? He lost ? It isn’t rocket science
 
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sheldoncooper said:
Why is Brophy gone ? He lost ? It isn’t rocket science
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Winning cures a lot. But speaking from experience, I know teams that did not like playing or preparing for a certain person in this hunt. No matter the talent (and over the last couple years that has been few and far between) you had kids who are bought in to lifting weights, practicing, working hard, and giving everything they had. Coaches knew regardless of the talent disparity they were in for a War.

That has way more to do with culture and program building than numbers can show. Stats lie can definitely be deceiving.
 
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Helmet guy said:
No idea what the hell you're talking about. Glad it gives you a laugh I have new member status. 👍
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In the last 2 pages of this thread there are 6 new members to Yappi. New member status sometimes indicates a regular "well-known member" on this site that doesn't want everyone to know it was him/her posting. So they create a new account to post under and use as a burner account.

Wasn't referencing you specifically

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Stizostedion

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I think it should be pointed out that I was correct again. Stacy is a good hire for Manchester. He will win there for two or three seasons and then be off to greener pastures.
 
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Stizostedion said:
I think it should be pointed out that I was correct again. Stacy is a good hire for Manchester. He will win there for two or three seasons and then be off to greener pastures.
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I think this is a great hire....he is a great guy and knows the game. Dad taught him well and he has done well with all the schools he has been with. I hated to see him leave the Lake Staff...and that was a while ago.
 
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Stizostedion said:
I think it should be pointed out that I was correct again. Stacy is a good hire for Manchester. He will win there for two or three seasons and then be off to greener pastures.
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You do realize that's not why you hire a coach right?? You want someone who is invested in that community/kids and wants to be there through thick and thin.

Also, he's done well at other places? Then why is he leaving?? Again the word is "underutilized" coming from Northwest AKA doesn't have much say.

You people are completely blinded and don't realize what really went down here. This was a debacle from the start and agendas got in the way what was truly best for those kids, school, and community. Mess!!
 
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Football IQ said:
You do realize that's not why you hire a coach right?? You want someone who is invested in that community/kids and wants to be there through thick and thin.

Also, he's done well at other places? Then why is he leaving?? Again the word is "underutilized" coming from Northwest AKA doesn't have much say.

You people are completely blinded and don't realize what really went down here. This was a debacle from the start and agendas got in the way what was truly best for those kids, school, and community. Mess!!
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You have blinders on. The administration is trying to change what is very clearly a toxic culture right now - and tbh, it's not just the football team it was/is the community as a whole. Why do you think they showed Gene the door after how many years of coaching the boys basketball team? They recognize that there needs to be a collective culture change and they were looking for good, young(er) people to help them do it. This is not difficult to see.

You call it a debacle.....I'm sorry....but did they make an offer to someone who turned them down? I don't believe they did. They literally got their first choice which is great for them - yet, you and a few others are on here acting like they got turned down 8 times and scraped the bottom of the barrel to find a head coach.

You're trying to run a bright, young coach out of town before he's even coached his first game. You want a good program back in Manchester, start looking at the mirror when trying to figure out why it hasn't happened yet.
 
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You're trying to run a bright, young coach out of town before he's even coached his first game.
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This is the way. This is the blueprint. Crazy Jimmy Irsay with the Indianapolis Dolts after drinking a whole bottle of Woodford Reserve couldn't even match this pure frontier gibberish.
 
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CasualFan24 said:
You have blinders on. The administration is trying to change what is very clearly a toxic culture right now - and tbh, it's not just the football team it was/is the community as a whole. Why do you think they showed Gene the door after how many years of coaching the boys basketball team? They recognize that there needs to be a collective culture change and they were looking for good, young(er) people to help them do it. This is not difficult to see.

You call it a debacle.....I'm sorry....but did they make an offer to someone who turned them down? I don't believe they did. They literally got their first choice which is great for them - yet, you and a few others are on here acting like they got turned down 8 times and scraped the bottom of the barrel to find a head coach.

You're trying to run a bright, young coach out of town before he's even coached his first game. You want a good program back in Manchester, start looking at the mirror when trying to figure out why it hasn't happened yet.
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If by admin you mean 1 to 2 peoples agendas and friends. Then sure. I guarantee that people that sat in this process were shocked by the outcome.

Any new person will change a culture. That necessarily doesnt mean good or bad. But I'd also go with one that has worked once maybe even twice, before I went with an unproven one.

I'm not trying to run anyone out of town. What is done is done. But when things go south with a person who doesn't even have a staff (besides retreads from old regime/ People who think it's awesome to be on a sideline.) We'll be here to just shake our heads at what could've been.
 
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Football IQ said:
You do realize that's not why you hire a coach right?? You want someone who is invested in that community/kids and wants to be there through thick and thin.

Also, he's done well at other places? Then why is he leaving?? Again the word is "underutilized" coming from Northwest AKA doesn't have much say.

You people are completely blinded and don't realize what really went down here. This was a debacle from the start and agendas got in the way what was truly best for those kids, school, and community. Mess!!
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One of the best QBs in the county over the last 20 years, lead his team to an AP state title and a final four, has been on staff at a bunch of very successful programs and worked with some prolific coaches, and on top of it he comes from a family with a great pedigree. I don't think this is the disaster you're trying to make it out to be, seems like you have a personal vendetta
 
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One of the best QBs in the county over the last 20 years, lead his team to an AP state title and a final four, has been on stuff at a bunch of very successful programs and worked with some prolific coaches, and on top of it he comes from a family with a great pedigree. I don't think this is the disaster you're trying to make it out to be, seems like you have a personal vendetta
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Again going from place to place really shows loyalty. Jumping place to place when things get tough and trying to follow already existing talent. He's been a lot of places and never had more than a "co-offensive" coordinator role. The track record is just hard to follow because there is none. Speaking from experience those former teams have had a ton of talent all over but never struck fear in anyone physically. Soft

You're only as good as the people you are going to put around you and your program. He doesn't have that staff either.
 
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Just curious on why he didn't take the job after they offered it to him the first time? He was their first choice, changed his mind and then they offered it Brophy. Would love to ask him. What changed? 0-10 last year? And I think whoever took the job there would be people on here complaining. Just change the names around in the complaints!!!!
 
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Grendel said:
Just curious on why he didn't take the job after they offered it to him the first time? He was their first choice, changed his mind and then they offered it Brophy. Would love to ask him. What changed? 0-10 last year? And I think whoever took the job there would be people on here complaining. Just change the names around in the complaints!!!!
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That last sentence is, as Kenny Bania would say, "Gold! Pure Gold!"

Manchester faithful should really be thankful they found someone in the local area WILLING to take the job. The history & tradition there are absolutely real, but they're also a 500lbs gorilla that you have to carry around everyday and listen to from the fence around the field every game. Not to mention, that gorilla was whipped up and then set free after an 0-10 season.

For all the "bad choice" folks here's an honest question - have you ever applied for and not taken a job? It's not an all or nothing proposition. I've gone thru the process more than once and, either due to the folks I'd work with/for or the finances, said "no thanks".

Honestly, from the outside looking in, I view this as a big win for the program. Not many young coaches as well regarded as Stacy would want to tackle the monster combo of that tradition & that lack of talent.

Cue upset parents & folks who wish it was still 1987 in 3..2..1...
 
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Raylan_Givens said:
That last sentence is, as Kenny Bania would say, "Gold! Pure Gold!"

Manchester faithful should really be thankful they found someone in the local area WILLING to take the job. The history & tradition there are absolutely real, but they're also a 500lbs gorilla that you have to carry around everyday and listen to from the fence around the field every game. Not to mention, that gorilla was whipped up and then set free after an 0-10 season.

For all the "bad choice" folks here's an honest question - have you ever applied for and not taken a job? It's not an all or nothing proposition. I've gone thru the process more than once and, either due to the folks I'd work with/for or the finances, said "no thanks".

Honestly, from the outside looking in, I view this as a big win for the program. Not many young coaches as well regarded as Stacy would want to tackle the monster combo of that tradition & that lack of talent.

Cue upset parents & folks who wish it was still 1987 in 3..2..1...
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Can I ask why he is respected but has been multiple places and never held a coordinator position or called plays?
Also, so we'll respected he has multiple people lined up to coach with him?? Oh, correct he does not.
 
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Well, the guy complaining the most has yet to have his questions answered and each seems to get deflected. Instead of acknowledging his points and questions, he gets jabs taken at him.
 
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I wish Manchester the best. I have 0 ties to the community. I know one guy who is a friend of mine who I know would have been great for the job. I hope this guy hired is also great for the job. Don't know him. This isnt a burner account and I am willing to bet I know more about high school football than most posting. I'm calming down now Casual
 
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