Lawsuit against Jackson Local Schools over Breach of Privacy?

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If you have an elementary school child(ren) in the JLSD, like myself, odds are you are aware of the phone calls that we were supposed to receive this week from a pro-levy group, calling from Cutler Realty, asking for your support of the levy.

However, the JLSD may have really screwed up here by handing over contact details to this pro-levy group to make these calls - breach of privacy problems. Not sure if they have a case or not, but as I was reading on the Canton Rep this morning, one poster claims to have contacted a Cleveland law firm about this invasion of privacy and is planning to file a class-action lawsuit against the JLSD.

http://www.cantonrep.com/communitie...ckson-school-levy-supporters-start-phone-bank

holbi
7 hours ago


I've contacted a law firm from Cleveland and they will take this case as a class action law suit for reaviling students private records to the publicThey will sue the Jackson Superindent,and school board plus Culter Reaity plus any one making the phone calls.So far the suit well be about $20,000,000 dollars.So the B.O.E. will have to raise the tax alot to cover the law suit expense.I will give an email address soon to those who want to join this class action law suit. Don't call me again Jackson school board or put your threats in the paper.Find out how to budget you're income. Start at the top where its mostly dead weight.I will Contact the regular tax payers soon so we can sue them out of there jobs.

And a second comment, posted just a bit ago:

JAY
7 minutes ago

First, I would like to question the lack of foresight in the construction of and addition to the Jackson Local Schools buildings. For all the complaints about heating the buildings it would seem that those in charge should have considered constructing more energy efficient buildings. Buildings with high ceilings are difficult to heat as heat does tend to rise - a basic principle such a highly rated school district should have taken in to consideration. Secondly, as for the bussing situation - I do not respond well to bullying and scare tactics. Furthermore, I have already had to drive my child to and from school due to the inept people hired to drive the busses. My daughter was often freightened and in tears and my complaints and concerns were disregarded. Finally, I in no way shape or form authorized the release of my contact information. I feel my privacy has been violated. This is harrassment and I am considering contacting a lawyer. The Jackson Schools have a great deal to answer for.

Bold emphasis added by me.
 
 
holbi and Jay

You people are nuts and may want to consider moving out of Jackson.

No student information was released. It was parent information. Is it a secret that you live in the Jackson Local School District ? OHHHH it's a big secret !!!!

holbi I am a Lawyer, a real one, and I about laughed myself out of my chair when I saw the dollar amount. One thing is for sure. The Cleveland firm will take your money.

Unless you haven't noticed the cost of almost everting goes up. If you want to live in a cheaper area the Massillon or Canton schools are not too far....
 
I agree with Jackson Hockey. If you hate the administration and the top notch facilities so bad, please move...we don't want you here anyway. Jackson used to be a real proud community, but it is embarasing to see how so many people are acting towards the school. When you settled down in Jackson Township, you knew that Jackson was a top notch school and you were going to pay high taxes. Again, I'm sure Massillon, Canton City, or Alliance (no offense to those schools) would welcome you with open arms.
 
You people are nuts and may want to consider moving out of Jackson.

No student information was released. It was parent information. Is it a secret that you live in the Jackson Local School District ? OHHHH it's a big secret !!!!

holbi I am a Lawyer, a real one, and I about laughed myself out of my chair when I saw the dollar amount. One thing is for sure. The Cleveland firm will take your money.

Unless you haven't noticed the cost of almost everting goes up. If you want to live in a cheaper area the Massillon or Canton schools are not too far....

Pitiful retort!

As you know as an attorney almost all class-action suits are filed for ediculous amounts. An assumption is made that this is to catch one's attention. I would be surprised if this person is even interested in the money, but rather making a point. They probably do not like being bothered or have their name released for someone to solicit them.

The majority has spoken at least five times in recent years. FOR whatever reason the voters of Jackson Township cannot or will not support a levy at this time. Inevitably at some point a levy will pass just not now.

I have a great idea since you are in the minority of voters at this time and are unhappy take yourself up on moving to another district.

I HAVE AN EVEN better idea contact your state legislators and urge them to balance the way they fund our schools. This would be a lot more helpful than you making moving plans for the majority of voters in our community.
 
I agree with Jackson Hockey. If you hate the administration and the top notch facilities so bad, please move...we don't want you here anyway. Jackson used to be a real proud community, but it is embarasing to see how so many people are acting towards the school. When you settled down in Jackson Township, you knew that Jackson was a top notch school and you were going to pay high taxes. Again, I'm sure Massillon, Canton City, or Alliance (no offense to those schools) would welcome you with open arms.

You also are unhappy with the majority of voters so I am quite sure you could find comfort in Massillon, Canton City or Alliance.

Same for you contact your state legislators and demand that they balance the way they fund our schools. It should not fall just on the shoulders of property owners.
 
I don't have a dog in this fight, but the title caught my attention.

The two most precious things that any community can have is its police department and it’s education system. The two things that most people want do #1 to be able to go to sleep at night know they are safe. #2 a good education system for their children.
If there is anything that you should want to spend money it should be those two.

I’m tired of people acting like there is some sort of sinister plot, just because the elected school board officials are spending money in a way that YOU don’t agree with! I believe that 99.9% of the elected school officials are there because they want to help the community!

When kids have a disagreement we tell them to work it out. Yet if this is the typical anti-school levy move, the first thing they do is run and hire a lawyer. The lawyer sues if they win the anti-tax levy groups ask for their lawyer fees back. So in fact they take the money from the school district and hurt the community they say they are trying to protect. What hypocrites!

What is really amazing is this is about a phone call! You have people volunteering their time to make phone calls because they want to support the school and community. (they are doing what they think is right for everyone) Instead of being polite and saying thank you then hanging up. They file a lawsuit!
 
Is it true that Jackson has increased the mills of this Feb. levy from 3.9 to 4.9? If this is true, there's no way the voters will approve this. I know that part of the reason they are putting this levy on in Feb. is because many senior citizens will be in Florida, etc. and won't be available to vote, but it will still be defeated if the mills are increased.

Also, Jackson is shooting themselves in the foot by cutting busing. For one thing, it's unsafe. For another, it's inconvenient. Still another, bus drivers have lost their jobs because of this yet Jackson won't cut retired/rehired employees who make much more than the bus drivers. Nor do they cut some administrative jobs that are not really necessary. It seems it's always the lower personnel who get their jobs cut.

It's kind of embarrassing to Jackson Township, which is considered one of the more affluent districts in NE Ohio, that they need to cut busing. I've always said that Jackson schools and teachers are some of the best around; however, they need to be managed more effectively.

Get rid of some of the overpaid Administrators - we could save more money this way. Also, I do agree that we didn't need such high ceilings in some of these school buildings. It's costly for heating and cooling.
 
I'll address what I can here - some of it I'm not sure about:

Is it true that Jackson has increased the mills of this Feb. levy from 3.9 to 4.9? If this is true, there's no way the voters will approve this.

They did so because they lost an entire year of funding, and thus are even deeper in debt. Just to catch back up to what they had been asking, they apparently had to increase the millage. As an accountant, I'd say that fiscally (for the JLSD's part) makes sense, although obviously it doesn't go over well.

I know that part of the reason they are putting this levy on in Feb. is because many senior citizens will be in Florida, etc. and won't be available to vote, but it will still be defeated if the mills are increased.

The admin/BOE has officially been saying they put it up to capitalize on the "momentum" from the 'better' results in November (it wasn't defeated as badly as the other three times). I won't begin to get into whether they also were trying to capitalize on seniors being gone, but that's another story....lol.

Also, Jackson is shooting themselves in the foot by cutting busing. For one thing, it's unsafe. For another, it's inconvenient. Still another, bus drivers have lost their jobs because of this yet Jackson won't cut retired/rehired employees who make much more than the bus drivers. Nor do they cut some administrative jobs that are not really necessary. It seems it's always the lower personnel who get their jobs cut.

The BOE/admin has repeatedly said they've scaled back administrative positions as much as possible, although they evidently haven't scaled back their salaries through caps/reduced wages. According to the ODE, Jackson does spend less per pupil on administrative costs than many other districts, if not most (I've got the data somewhere, but I'm too lazy to find it now...lol). Not that they couldn't cut more, though, perhaps, I guess. Personally, I'm a little flustered over the elementary busing cuts and I've already given Ken Douglas (BOE president in 2008) an earful about it. My kids won't be directly affected by it, as we're outside the 2mile zone, but it still sucks, esp. for those students at Strausser with the dangerous roads around that particular school.

It's kind of embarrassing to Jackson Township, which is considered one of the more affluent districts in NE Ohio, that they need to cut busing. I've always said that Jackson schools and teachers are some of the best around; however, they need to be managed more effectively.

Becasue I wish to remain as neutral as possible, I'll save my personal comments here.

Get rid of some of the overpaid Administrators - we could save more money this way. Also, I do agree that we didn't need such high ceilings in some of these school buildings. It's costly for heating and cooling.

See above on the admins. I would think that, as we replace retiring admins (there are very high profile ones coming up between now and 2010), we should do it with much cheaper labor.

I'm not sure I agree 100% on the ceilings, as there is a 2nd floor in a portion on the peripheral of the Commons, although I think the design might have been a bit better. I do think the streetlights are pretty silly. I was in there over break and all the tables were gone, leaving the streetlights all by themselves in the middle of the huge Commons area - looked very out of place - I would have recommended better lighting.

As far as natural light goes, when I was at JHS, it was almost depressing having most of your classes w/o windows. One of the little joys of the day was to be able to go to lunch and sit by the windows in the old cafeteria - regardless how gloomy it might be that day. So I agree w/letting in as much natural light as reasonable. Not sure it was done in the best way possible, but I do think having natural light is a good thing.
 
Pitiful retort!

As you know as an attorney almost all class-action suits are filed for ediculous amounts. An assumption is made that this is to catch one's attention. I would be surprised if this person is even interested in the money, but rather making a point. They probably do not like being bothered or have their name released for someone to solicit them.

The majority has spoken at least five times in recent years. FOR whatever reason the voters of Jackson Township cannot or will not support a levy at this time. Inevitably at some point a levy will pass just not now.

I have a great idea since you are in the minority of voters at this time and are unhappy take yourself up on moving to another district.

I HAVE AN EVEN better idea contact your state legislators and urge them to balance the way they fund our schools. This would be a lot more helpful than you making moving plans for the majority of voters in our community.

OK HoopsRGreat I'll take your challenge if you take mine:
You agree to no pay increase in your salary for 5 years straight and I'll move from Jackson.
What's that you say? Jackson funding had a lot of "fat" on the bone to cut. Well I'm sure you and your family can get through 5 years without a payraise if you cut out things like vacations, going out to eat, cell phones, internet, insurance. The point is yes there was fat, we all agree but the administration took steps to remedy that. Now the pendulum has swung way too far against them. They need money.... like the rest of us !
 
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OK HoopsRGreat I'll take your challenge if you take mine:
You agree to no pay increase in your salary for 5 years straight and I'll move from Jackson.
What's that you say? Jackson funding had a lot of "fat" on the bone to cut. Well I'm sure you and your family can get through 5 years without a payraise if you cut out things like vacations, going out to eat, cell phones, internet, insurance. The point is yes there was fat, we all agree but the administration took steps to remedy that. Now the pendulum has swung way too far against them. They need money.... like the rest of us !

I took a cut in pay three years ago and have not had an increase for the past two years, so I guess that means I am 3/5 of the way there.

You refuse to recognize that currently people are struggling and the message they are sending is that all must learn to survive on what they have at this point. Surely in the future things may change, but not now.

In the mean time contact your legislators who make the laws so attorneys can thrive! If memory serves me correctly our Supreme Court in Ohio has directed our legislators to change the way the schools are funded on more than one occasion. Funny how legislators are the only ones that can get away with this kind of thing. Examples of elected officials who continue to thrive while sticking it right up our behinds, Barney Frank(no pun intended), Chris Dodd etc.
 
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The point isn't that anyone knows we live in Jackson. The fact is that everyone that works with or around children in our school systems has to go through background checks. And someone in the schools just handed over private information letting the volunteers know that the name,address, and phone number they are calling DOES have children in that house.

You may not care about that, but I do. If one of those volunteers is a predator of sorts... what then?
 
The point isn't that anyone knows we live in Jackson. The fact is that everyone that works with or around children in our school systems has to go through background checks. And someone in the schools just handed over private information letting the volunteers know that the name,address, and phone number they are calling DOES have children in that house.

You may not care about that, but I do. If one of those volunteers is a predator of sorts... what then?

WOW, disclosure that there are children in the house !

Someone can tell there are children in a house just by sitting in their car when the kids leave or come home from school if they want to.
Better take down the swing sets, keep the bikes inside, and tell the kids to stay in the basement.
Ludicrous is a nice word for it....
 
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WOW, disclosure that there are children in the house !

Someone can tell there are children in a house just by sitting in their car when the kids leave or come home from school if they want to.
Better take down the swing sets, keep the bikes inside, and tell the kids to stay in the basement.
Ludicrous is a nice word for it....

Just because YOU don't seem to take your childrens safety serious... doesn't mean everyone else feels the same. Then why bother having any school employees go through background checks? Why do you think we have those laws in place? For the heck of it? Your argument on this is silly, and you know it. If you're here to argue for the sake of arguing... then leave me out of it. If you have something intelligent to say, I'll listen.
 
Let me see if I can read into all of this and recap what you two are saying:

1. Background checks are a definite necessity of those that work in direct, physical contact w/our children as part of the ordinary course of their jobs, such as any school employees.

2. This calling committee had access to private information (phone numbers and perhaps addresses) of the children, and thus could - if they so chose to act upon it - could find these kids and molest them.

3. These calling committee members likely all lived in Jackson, as they were all concerned parents/supporters of the levy. Thus, they are directly in our community.

4. A sexual predator with no ties to the JLSD or this calling committe, could determine where a child lived by seeing them in the yard, streets, playground, etc. and thus could attack them.

5. The calling committee members are not screened, and thus if one is a predator, it would not be known by the JLSD.

6. If a predator were on the calling commitee, that person would have to take the additional step of actually physically finding the child, once they got their number.

7. We have sexual predators, known and unknown, that live in Jackson now (check out the local sexual predator website, it'll tell you who the known registered offenders are).

Would all of you guys agree so far? If so - now my point (and what I think jacksonhockey is trying to make):

If a predator, with no affiliation to the JLSD, wanted to target a child, it would be quite easy for them to find one, since we have several thousand of them (the kids) living in the community. IMO, I would feel that a predator who worked on the committee would be able to find a child easier, just by looking around their neighborhood (like the non-JLSD predator) than by getting a kids name of the address/phone list - who they likely have never met - and taking the add'l step of going after them.

Sound reasonable? Or am I reading into what you guys are discussing too much?
 
Just because YOU don't seem to take your childrens safety serious... doesn't mean everyone else feels the same. Then why bother having any school employees go through background checks? Why do you think we have those laws in place? For the heck of it? Your argument on this is silly, and you know it. If you're here to argue for the sake of arguing... then leave me out of it. If you have something intelligent to say, I'll listen.

I already made my point, perhaps you are not sharp enough to have discerned it. See the post by Polar Purple. Then maybe it will be clear to you.
Maybe read it over 4 or 5 times and hopefully it sinks in....
 
Oh this is nice. Lets sue our school system for something. Was anyone hurt? Believe me I have been through and through out legal system, there is always someone willing to take this type of law suit, Most judges would throw it out. I guess anything is possible. I'm just glad I don't live in Jackson. There goes your levy money to pay the lawyers to protect the school. :rolleyes:
 
Hum.... So, the school system should be free to violate State law and it's own policies by releasing student information -- all to it's own benefit? While, unfortunately, it might cost a school system some legal fees when a parent attempts to defend his/her rights, can you suggest another way to insure that an out of control administration is reigned in?

Oh, and interesting to know that you feel you can speak for 'Most judges'. Seems to me that just making such a statement tends to invalidate itself.
 
The interesting thing is that this is over three months old when OSF pulled it back up. I'm guessing that no lawsuits were ever filed, although that's not saying they still couldn't.

Oh this is nice. Lets sue our school system for something. Was anyone hurt? Believe me I have been through and through out legal system, there is always someone willing to take this type of law suit, Most judges would throw it out. I guess anything is possible. I'm just glad I don't live in Jackson. There goes your levy money to pay the lawyers to protect the school. :rolleyes:

You might not live in Jackson, but the majority of your posts so far are about Jackson - just curious as to why you are so interested about the going-ons in Jackson, if you don't live here?
 
Polar, some folks just feel the need to post, even if they don't have any 'skin in the game.'

Also, while a lawsuit may never be filed, it's a shame that the school system violated it's own policy (and as a result, State law) by handing out student information. Such a stunt would have cost me my job if I'd done as much. It's unfortunate that it didn't have the same effect with the goobers claiming to be an administration in the JLSD.

Finally, while it might have gotten the latest levy past, it could easily backfire, causing the next (and larger) levy to fail when it comes up in about a year.
 
Polar, some folks just feel the need to post, even if they don't have any 'skin in the game.'

Also, while a lawsuit may never be filed, it's a shame that the school system violated it's own policy (and as a result, State law) by handing out student information. Such a stunt would have cost me my job if I'd done as much. It's unfortunate that it didn't have the same effect with the goobers claiming to be an administration in the JLSD.

Finally, while it might have gotten the latest levy past, it could easily backfire, causing the next (and larger) levy to fail when it comes up in about a year.[/QUOTE]

Now this, I agree with.
 
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