Is Lakota West a state contender?

Rohbino

Well-known member
West is definitely going to contend. Putting 3 under 16 is impressive. As with most meets, that 4-5 position is going to be key. I thought that's X's depth would have the edge but I'm not sure.

For a sense of perspective, where was the GCL held?
 

Supertramp

Member
Lakota West and St. X are the top 2 teams in the State right now, I think. I give the edge to X since they just beat West two weeks ago at X’s home meet.
Hilliard Davidson and Kenston are certainly in the conversation as well.
It will be interesting to see what Beavercreek can do when it’s not just smashing their heads against the GWOC.
Mason has not been able to get it together this year. On paper they have the firepower to contend but we haven’t seen them all show up on race day.
The Southwest region is going to be brutal. After the 4 SW teams mentioned above, it’l be a bloodbath between Loveland, Lebanon, Tippecanoe, Lakota East, and maybe others for the last ticket to State.

Useless to compare GMC to GCL results. St. X jogged to victory there, like they have for the last several years.
It’s pathetic what has become of the GCL. I remember when 3 of the best teams in the state were in that 4 team conference. Now they’ve let all the talent go to X.
 

runs4funs

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Hard to believe how West smacked Mason at the GMC meet. http://live.finishtiming.com/meets/202000431/events/2
Can they challenge St. Xavier who perfected their league meet? http://www.finishtiming.com/links.php?uniqueid=5E42C3906FE&link=4
Not that hard to believe, West has beaten Mason pretty convincingly every time they’ve matched up this season. I’m not sure they have enough to beat X but it should be interesting to see what happens at the state meet with a bigger field of top teams. I wouldn’t look for Mason to repeat their performance from last year’s state meet, this is one of their weaker teams.
 

JAVMAN83

Well-known member
GCL - What jumps out at me is how far the Lancers have fallen. I feel for Lancermania's alma mater, but when an admin unceremoniously ousts a wildly successful coach on a whim, this is what you get. They sowed the seeds of their own demise. Who knows when they will be good again.

GGCL - What's happened to Ursuline? New coaching?

GMC - As with the GCL, Colerain's mighty fall to next-to-last jumps out at me. Gone are the years of Ken Meibers' influence. I feel for the Russo's alma mater.
 
Not that hard to believe, West has beaten Mason pretty convincingly every time they’ve matched up this season. I’m not sure they have enough to beat X but it should be interesting to see what happens at the state meet with a bigger field of top teams. I wouldn’t look for Mason to repeat their performance from last year’s state meet, this is one of their weaker teams.
Could be West’s year - they certainly have the experience (6 seniors, 1 junior in their top 7). I agree that Mason is not as strong this year, but they’re young (1 freshman, 1 sophomore, 3 juniors in their top 5 yesterday).
 

SLS

Member
I heard from what I consider a reliable source that Ursuline's top varsity team, except No. 1 runner, is out due to covid exposure and did not run at GGCL. Evidently No. 1 was injured and was not around the exposed person or persons.They were a bubble team as far as qualifying to regionals. Most likely quarantine will not end before district meet.
 

JAVMAN83

Well-known member
I heard from what I consider a reliable source that Ursuline's top varsity team, except No. 1 runner, is out due to covid exposure and did not run at GGCL. Evidently No. 1 was injured and was not around the exposed person or persons.They were a bubble team as far as qualifying to regionals. Most likely quarantine will not end before district meet.
Thank you for the info. Sorry to hear of their misfortune. Undoubtedly, this is also the fate of many other teams throughout the state and country.
 
West has had an incredible season. I was hesitant to jump on the bandwagon after the Moeller win to start the year, but they've only looked better and better as the season has gone along. I'd agree that they look like the second best team in the state right now. I keep waiting for Tom Rapp at Mason to work his magic and all of a sudden have five 16:00 kids like they do in many years, but so far it hasn't happened.

If state happened today, I think X wins and West is second. Hilliard third, kenston and Mason battle for fourth.

A lot can change in the next three weeks.
 

Rohbino

Well-known member
Kenston is a serious contender but they'll get overlooked. Teams coming out of the NE Ohio/Boardman regional are often overlooked because of too much attention being paid to times. The regional course at Boardman is the slowest of the 4 and the district courses that feed that region also tend to be somewhat slower.
 

yj_runfan

Well-known member
GCL - What jumps out at me is how far the Lancers have fallen. I feel for Lancermania's alma mater, but when an admin unceremoniously ousts a wildly successful coach on a whim, this is what you get. They sowed the seeds of their own demise. Who knows when they will be good again.
Since LaSalle learned how to build a football team I doubt anyone there even thinks about cross country.
 

runs4funs

New member
West has had an incredible season. I was hesitant to jump on the bandwagon after the Moeller win to start the year, but they've only looked better and better as the season has gone along. I'd agree that they look like the second best team in the state right now. I keep waiting for Tom Rapp at Mason to work his magic and all of a sudden have five 16:00 kids like they do in many years, but so far it hasn't happened.

If state happened today, I think X wins and West is second. Hilliard third, kenston and Mason battle for fourth.

A lot can change in the next three weeks.
I think X is the clear favorite but after that it’s anyone’s guess. The tri and quad meets make it hard to predict how teams will fare when they’re lining up against 19 other top teams in the state. I wouldn’t be shocked if Mason finishes outside the top 5 though, they’re a year away.
 

Supertramp

Member
Kenston now has two 1st place votes in the most recent OATCCC poll.

I just, very breifly, looked over their times and results. They certainly don’t have the impressive times that other teams do (I think we all know better about a few of those times from teams “ahead” of them...) but solid wins over Woodridge, Louisville, Solon, and Ignatius just to name a few.

Just curious what other reasons people think this Kenston team could win it all, as I have not given them the attention they deserve this season.
 

EuclidandViren

Active member
Kenston now has two 1st place votes in the most recent OATCCC poll.

I just, very breifly, looked over their times and results. They certainly don’t have the impressive times that other teams do (I think we all know better about a few of those times from teams “ahead” of them...) but solid wins over Woodridge, Louisville, Solon, and Ignatius just to name a few.

Just curious what other reasons people think this Kenston team could win it all, as I have not given them the attention they deserve this season.
I usually use the previous seasons 1600 and 3200 times as a predictor to see how to compare a team. These are more comparable than XC times.
Obviously, this is flawed too many extents, but it gives you a better picture. On paper, I would never think that Turk would be their #2 man in XC because he has the slowest track times. But there are many variables on improvement and possible injuries in track or other sports that this does not take into account for with XC comparables.

Kenston
Princic 9:48, 4:31
Turk- 10:30, 4:50
McConnell- 10:00, 4:41
Bertman- 10:07, 4:43
Hunt- 10:15, 4:40
Orlowski- 10:34
McMahan- 4:37

St. Xavier
Mountain- 9:25, 4:23
Bohrer- 9:27, 4:30
Foster- 10:34, 4:42- was 33rd in the state at 2019 XC meet
Sams- just a sophomore- big breakout year
Goodrich- 10:59, 4:56
Krych- 17:10 guy last year- nothing in track
Steiger- 4:42 in 1600

*on paper I would say Kenston looks a lot better especially since their #7 guy is a 4:37 miler.
I would also say St. Xavier has a reputation in XC and an expectation at the state meet.
But yes Kenston is a state contender. And yes Lakota West is a state contender.
 

Lancermania

Lancers lead the way!
This may be off topic, but is the junior high/middle school state cross country meet this weekend. I know someone whose daughter runs for Milford, and she says the team is running at the state meet this weekend.
 
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