I Don’t Get It…

What fool in the ad agency though this was a good commercial? Clean your own house!



I don’t see any issue with this commercial.

It’s not flashy, but it’s straight to the point. They probably made it for $50. If they get even a handful of customers, it’s well worth it.
 
Let's see. We have a cleaning company that in 15 seconds shows its range of services, ease of use, and cost. What more would you want in a commercial?
eh, something had me cringing. Something I'm really not liking about that acting that I can't put my finger on. Don't know if that's what Tom 28 is refering to?

First watch, I didn't quite get what she was saying. Why even mention you fired your house-keeper? The whole vibe went negative for me. I took it they fired some poor daily house-keeper, i.e. they are richy riches and replaced them with a $19 cleaner. 🤷

They also didn't convince me that no matter the mess, it's the same price? Yeah, something distrusting about that messaging.
 
Let's see. We have a cleaning company that in 15 seconds shows its range of services, ease of use, and cost. What more would you want in a commercial?
How much do they charge after the first $19 cleaning? Basically they are saying they fired one housekeeper just to hire another one.
 
Guys, it's one thing to criticize an off-putting commercial. It's another thing to criticize the existence of cleaning companies, which is what Tom did.
 
Guys, it's one thing to criticize an off-putting commercial. It's another thing to criticize the existence of cleaning companies, which is what Tom did.
I absolutely did not criticize the existence of the cleaning company! How could any agency think that putting on a commercial in which the actor says in a snippy voice that they FIRED their housekeeper is the best strategy to take? They have other commercials, which give much more information and are not as repellent.


It has every right to exist, just as viewers have every right to think that the commercial is doing more harm to them than help. BTW, they are a legit company with a catch:



But, you have every right to use their services. Good luck!
 
I absolutely did not criticize the existence of the cleaning company! How could any agency think that putting on a commercial in which the actor says in a snippy voice that they FIRED their housekeeper is the best strategy to take? They have other commercials, which give much more information and are not as repellent.


It has every right to exist, just as viewers have every right to think that the commercial is doing more harm to them than help. BTW, they are a legit company with a catch:



But, you have every right to use their services. Good luck!
I guess "clean your own house!" has a different meaning.
 
I guess "clean your own house!" has a different meaning.

Different than what you were thinking? JMHO but your thinking didn't keep the comment in context. His post referred to the ad agency, not the cleaner.

What fool in the ad agency though this was a good commercial? Clean your own house!

Even with a little spin to consider it maybe a case of bad writing (and forgetting a 't'), it's only an admonishment that people should clean their own damn homes. I however prefer the middle ground between cleaning my own and being snooty and hiring someone else to fill my basic responsibilities. I keep it a pig-sty.

Now look what you've gone and done. Made me take the defensive side for that dirty low down private schooler.

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Different than what you were thinking? JMHO but your thinking didn't keep the comment in context. His post referred to the ad agency, not the cleaner.



Even with a little spin to consider it maybe a case of bad writing (and forgetting a 't'), it's only an admonishment that people should clean their own damn homes. I however prefer the middle ground between cleaning my own and being snooty and hiring someone else to fill my basic responsibilities. I keep it a pig-sty.

Now look what you've gone and done. Made me take the defensive side for that dirty low down private schooler.

Embarrassed Shame GIF


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I think Tom and I are probably close in age so I think it's just another instance where the younger generation "hires out" basic things that our generation and generations before just did. It's incredible to me how many fine, able bodied people pay other people to A. Clean their homes, B. mow their grass C. Shop for their groceries, etc.

This is the epitome of snootiness, IMO. It's great that you've risen enough in your careers to have the money to pay for services like this, but is it necessary? I mean how long does it really take to keep a house clean? If you let it go to pot and clean every other month, then yet, it gets bad. But if you just do simple daily/ weekly cleanups it's pretty easy to keep up. Now some people are elderly or handicapped and I completely get that. But this is able bodied typically younger people who simply don't want to do it and farm it out. To me cutting your own grass is pretty basic.

But the one that really gets me is people who can't shop for their own groceries? If you're that busy you can't get your own groceries, I suspect a time management issue or simply not wanting to interact with other humans.
 
I think Tom and I are probably close in age so I think it's just another instance where the younger generation "hires out" basic things that our generation and generations before just did. It's incredible to me how many fine, able bodied people pay other people to A. Clean their homes, B. mow their grass C. Shop for their groceries, etc.

This is the epitome of snootiness, IMO. It's great that you've risen enough in your careers to have the money to pay for services like this, but is it necessary? I mean how long does it really take to keep a house clean? If you let it go to pot and clean every other month, then yet, it gets bad. But if you just do simple daily/ weekly cleanups it's pretty easy to keep up. Now some people are elderly or handicapped and I completely get that. But this is able bodied typically younger people who simply don't want to do it and farm it out. To me cutting your own grass is pretty basic.

But the one that really gets me is people who can't shop for their own groceries? If you're that busy you can't get your own groceries, I suspect a time management issue or simply not wanting to interact with other humans.

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Trickle down. In some cases, trickle up. I know a couple in the cleaning, power-washing business and they've paid off home, got the in-ground, bought the large mobile home and spend a lot of time at the cabin.

So if they have this extra income, what are they supposed to do with it that would satisfy you? Bank it? Make the bank richer? Stock market? Make the CEOs richer? What legal things someone does with their extra income is a not my biz as long as it's not bothering my day.
 
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Trickle down. In some cases, trickle up. I know a couple in the cleaning, power-washing business and they've paid off home, got the in-ground, bought the large mobile home and spend a lot of time at the cabin.

So if they have this extra income, what are they supposed to do with it that would satisfy you? Bank it? Make the bank richer? Stock market? Make the CEOs richer? What legal things someone does with their extra income is a not my biz as long as it's not bothering my day.
I was simply listing some ideas as to why Tom and I may feel this way. Obviously East it's "to each his own". You earned the money, you can spend it however you want. And for some, if you've got multiple active kids in April / May/ June and a decent size yard, you may not have 3-4 hours weekly to mow the yard. I get it. But I also know for some it's just laziness and / or a willingness to do other things. I don't blame the entrepreneurs who do these businesses. If you find people willing to pay 2-3 times what a job costs just so they don't have to do it, God bless them. Heck if people still mostly bought groceries and prepared their own food, including lunches, half the restaurants would have to close due to lack of business.

But here's my other frustrating point. We next hear that a person can't afford rent, or buy groceries due to inflation when if you just look at HOW people spend their money (including what kinds of cars they have and the numbers of vacations they go on) it rings a little hollow to me. If you've seen me on here much you know my motto, in general, people don't have an earning problem they have a spending problem.
 
I was simply listing some ideas as to why Tom and I may feel this way. Obviously East it's "to each his own". You earned the money, you can spend it however you want. And for some, if you've got multiple active kids in April / May/ June and a decent size yard, you may not have 3-4 hours weekly to mow the yard. I get it. But I also know for some it's just laziness and / or a willingness to do other things. I don't blame the entrepreneurs who do these businesses. If you find people willing to pay 2-3 times what a job costs just so they don't have to do it, God bless them. Heck if people still mostly bought groceries and prepared their own food, including lunches, half the restaurants would have to close due to lack of business.

But here's my other frustrating point. We next hear that a person can't afford rent, or buy groceries due to inflation when if you just look at HOW people spend their money (including what kinds of cars they have and the numbers of vacations they go on) it rings a little hollow to me. If you've seen me on here much you know my motto, in general, people don't have an earning problem they have a spending problem.

"some people"

Eight billion in the world, there are always going to be "some people." Like in how "some people" will use anecdotes of second hand experience to make generalizations they can be comfortable with. There are hard working people on the margins. They are not in MY experience, anecdotal. I was raised one. I've been one. I'm no longer one but don't preclude that in the future I may again be one, no matter how frugal (cheap) I am. 🤷 That person stuggling with inflation might not be the same person spending their money in ways I consider frivolous. But in eight billion people, there are going to be some. In either case, as long as it's not my money, it's not my biz, rings well for me. I've enough frustrations without picking up that one, lol.
 
If I had enough money I’d pay someone to tie my shoes. Once my son moves on I’ll pay someone to cut my yard. I still have two you ones that keep us busy all the time. What time I have to work on the yard and house is spent doing that not cutting the yard. Plus we have two dogs (I lost they argument) that need walked at least 30 minutes each and they’re to big to walk at the same time. I make sure I get them out and throw the ball everyday.

If I was filthy rich, I’d have personal chef and tailor.
 
If I had enough money I’d pay someone to tie my shoes. Once my son moves on I’ll pay someone to cut my yard. I still have two you ones that keep us busy all the time. What time I have to work on the yard and house is spent doing that not cutting the yard. Plus we have two dogs (I lost they argument) that need walked at least 30 minutes each and they’re to big to walk at the same time. I make sure I get them out and throw the ball everyday.

If I was filthy rich, I’d have personal chef and tailor.
I could definitely see me going for a chef. And a gardener. And an attorney. But I'm mowing my own damn lawn, no matter how big. That's comfort food.
 
"some people"

Eight billion in the world, there are always going to be "some people." Like in how "some people" will use anecdotes of second hand experience to make generalizations they can be comfortable with. There are hard working people on the margins. They are not in MY experience, anecdotal. I was raised one. I've been one. I'm no longer one but don't preclude that in the future I may again be one, no matter how frugal (cheap) I am. 🤷 That person stuggling with inflation might not be the same person spending their money in ways I consider frivolous. But in eight billion people, there are going to be some. In either case, as long as it's not my money, it's not my biz, rings well for me. I've enough frustrations without picking up that one, lol.
You're correct. But we "hear" from certain people. I've always kind of used the good old eyeball test. If you listen to any decent amount of media, you get the thought that most of America is bordering on poverty, no one gets paid a livable wage, etc. But I see what happens on a day to day basis. Restaurants are full, tourist attractions are busy, airports are busy...America overall is doing quite well.
 
You're correct. But we "hear" from certain people. I've always kind of used the good old eyeball test. If you listen to any decent amount of media, you get the thought that most of America is bordering on poverty, no one gets paid a livable wage, etc. But I see what happens on a day to day basis. Restaurants are full, tourist attractions are busy, airports are busy...America overall is doing quite well.
I think ALOT of the people living close to poverty have put themselves in that position by overextending . I meen it does not cost an exhorbedant amount to live comfortably in Ohio. Its not California or New York. Have little or no debt and you can do ok. Its imbobablcle . Take me ,The Diamond for example. Im holding . I got some $$$ . And with 2 beetches to take out alot ,sometimes at same time dinner can be a little pricery , so you know what i tell em . we go white tablecloth restaurant 1 x / week the other 6 days its cazual . then they 2 on 1 me sometines . which is nice
 
I think ALOT of the people living close to poverty have put themselves in that position by overextending . I meen it does not cost an exhorbedant amount to live comfortably in Ohio. Its not California or New York. Have little or no debt and you can do ok. Its imbobablcle . Take me ,The Diamond for example. Im holding . I got some $$$ . And with 2 beetches to take out alot ,sometimes at same time dinner can be a little pricery , so you know what i tell em . we go white tablecloth restaurant 1 x / week the other 6 days its cazual . then they 2 on 1 me sometines . which is nice
You da man Diamond!
 
I think ALOT of the people living close to poverty have put themselves in that position by overextending . I meen it does not cost an exhorbedant amount to live comfortably in Ohio. Its not California or New York. Have little or no debt and you can do ok. Its imbobablcle . Take me ,The Diamond for example. Im holding . I got some $$$ . And with 2 beetches to take out alot ,sometimes at same time dinner can be a little pricery , so you know what i tell em . we go white tablecloth restaurant 1 x / week the other 6 days its cazual . then they 2 on 1 me sometines . which is nice

You "don't get it" without paying for it. TMI.

The "get it" discussion still seems stuck on failures to define "a lot." Or "exorbitant." These are meaningless, undefined words politicians throw out, presuming the masses will not question their worth. Again, eight billion people. There are going to be "a lot" of any, doing anything. "A lot" get rich just by pure luck.

What money is being wasted by "a lot" people near poverty, that isn't going fairly directly to others living close to poverty? Is your "a lot" a substantial percentage to where a fix of their bad habits affects the overall bottom line? How can we help you "get it?"

Is it maybe just comfort food for those throwing out those undefined terms to believe all these people struggling are misusing their meager funds that defining those terms, doing some basic needs math might not live up to their preconceptions? Have you actually worked out the math?

Have you seen rents in the city at all recently? Are you aware why that's happening? Jobs are not stable as they were. Mobility is restricted by the massive costs on the coasts.

I see families having two or three workers, trying to make those rents, the car payments, the insurances, the taxes and still not having money to waste, let alone put away for house downs. People living near that line, do you expect "a lot" of them have the extra cash for investment or having the economic education or the security of mind to risk what little they have? To even KNOW that it is possible?

Someone making $100,000 in Ohio's market investing $10,000 is taking much less a risk on their economic stability than a person making $40000, risking even just $1000. This is not a linear progression.

yes, "it" can be done, in theory. If you're willing to give up kids, not live on the dole and are like most normal people, just a regular job, you might make $35000 to $45,000. Find a house in bad enough condition that hasn't already been hoarded. Put enough people in it who will actually pay the rent. Have the skills and funds to repair it...
 
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I think Tom and I are probably close in age so I think it's just another instance where the younger generation "hires out" basic things that our generation and generations before just did. It's incredible to me how many fine, able bodied people pay other people to A. Clean their homes, B. mow their grass C. Shop for their groceries, etc.

This is the epitome of snootiness, IMO. It's great that you've risen enough in your careers to have the money to pay for services like this, but is it necessary? I mean how long does it really take to keep a house clean? If you let it go to pot and clean every other month, then yet, it gets bad. But if you just do simple daily/ weekly cleanups it's pretty easy to keep up. Now some people are elderly or handicapped and I completely get that. But this is able bodied typically younger people who simply don't want to do it and farm it out. To me cutting your own grass is pretty basic.
This will all change when they experience a recession. Keep in mind we have not had a true recession since 2008-2010. We have people in their 30’s who have never really experienced an economic downturn.
But the one that really gets me is people who can't shop for their own groceries? If you're that busy you can't get your own groceries, I suspect a time management issue or simply not wanting to interact with other humans.
People with low income will spend $10 plus tip to have an $8 fast food order delivered. Covid normalized some bad habits.
 
This will all change when they experience a recession. Keep in mind we have not had a true recession since 2008-2010. We have people in their 30’s who have never really experienced an economic downturn.

People with low income will spend $10 plus tip to have an $8 fast food order delivered. Covid normalized some bad habits.

Get rid of door dash and we've solved the poverty problem? :D

Why is this even part of the "i don't get it" discussion? Because we don't like those people?

People working low earning jobs, multiple even aren't pushed to poverty by door dash addiction, which honestly is generally benefitting some other low earner. Regardlesss, SOME sense of normalcy should be allowable in this country and still be on-track to those things we consider the line between have and have not: housing, particularly single home-ownership and transportation to work and resources.

Artificial marketing of housing should be the discussion way before door-dash. Artificial valuations based on zillow and false LLC offers, taxing people out of the lower income homes should be the discussion. Climbing insurance rates, with no alternative protections should be the discussion. Bad mass-transit should be in the discussion. All these way before those few "many" who are wasteful, whether though lazyness, greed or just ignorance on how to do better.

Agreed, it is possible, there is a path for almost anyone to be a $25/hr iron-worker (still too low in this economiy to have a single working parent household) but then if everyone did it, they wouldn't be paid $25/hr. Same any other skilled or professional trade these MAGAs and old farts throw out as the way out of poverty for the "lazy" people. But then those wages would fall and we'd be back where the supposed "free" market has them.
 
I had no idea that my dislike of the commercial would cause such a ruckus. My objection to the commercial has nothing to do with what the subject does with her money and everything to do with the way it is presented. The product has several other commercial spots in which the " service" is explained very succinctly. However, in this spot, the arrogance in which this young, able-bodied woman brags that they " fired their housekeeper," proudly announcing that they terminated her employment, irritates me . Had she said that they had found a perfect company to do their cleaning, then fine. But, the smugness of her tone makes me wonder who thought it was a good idea to have their product associated with such snobbery, especially since their other spots were fine and got the essential information out. Of course, maybe the agency thought that the tone of this commercial would cause discussion and publicity ( which it has done here), and that people would remember the service and use it. I will remember it, but not positively.
 
Get rid of door dash and we've solved the poverty problem? :D

Why is this even part of the "i don't get it" discussion? Because we don't like those people?

People working low earning jobs, multiple even aren't pushed to poverty by door dash addiction, which honestly is generally benefitting some other low earner. Regardlesss, SOME sense of normalcy should be allowable in this country and still be on-track to those things we consider the line between have and have not: housing, particularly single home-ownership and transportation to work and resources.

Artificial marketing of housing should be the discussion way before door-dash. Artificial valuations based on zillow and false LLC offers, taxing people out of the lower income homes should be the discussion. Climbing insurance rates, with no alternative protections should be the discussion. Bad mass-transit should be in the discussion. All these way before those few "many" who are wasteful, whether though lazyness, greed or just ignorance on how to do better.

Agreed, it is possible, there is a path for almost anyone to be a $25/hr iron-worker (still too low in this economiy to have a single working parent household) but then if everyone did it, they wouldn't be paid $25/hr. Same any other skilled or professional trade these MAGAs and old farts throw out as the way out of poverty for the "lazy" people. But then those wages would fall and we'd be back where the supposed "free" market has them.
You went a long way here.

Using DoorDash and then complaining that you struggle to make ends meet does not jive.
 
This will all change when they experience a recession. Keep in mind we have not had a true recession since 2008-2010. We have people in their 30’s who have never really experienced an economic downturn.

People with low income will spend $10 plus tip to have an $8 fast food order delivered. Covid normalized some bad habits.
This is so true.
 
Get rid of door dash and we've solved the poverty problem? :D

Why is this even part of the "i don't get it" discussion? Because we don't like those people?

People working low earning jobs, multiple even aren't pushed to poverty by door dash addiction, which honestly is generally benefitting some other low earner. Regardlesss, SOME sense of normalcy should be allowable in this country and still be on-track to those things we consider the line between have and have not: housing, particularly single home-ownership and transportation to work and resources.

Artificial marketing of housing should be the discussion way before door-dash. Artificial valuations based on zillow and false LLC offers, taxing people out of the lower income homes should be the discussion. Climbing insurance rates, with no alternative protections should be the discussion. Bad mass-transit should be in the discussion. All these way before those few "many" who are wasteful, whether though lazyness, greed or just ignorance on how to do better.

Agreed, it is possible, there is a path for almost anyone to be a $25/hr iron-worker (still too low in this economiy to have a single working parent household) but then if everyone did it, they wouldn't be paid $25/hr. Same any other skilled or professional trade these MAGAs and old farts throw out as the way out of poverty for the "lazy" people. But then those wages would fall and we'd be back where the supposed "free" market has them.
There has ALWAYS been people working low earning jobs. We just have politicians and leaders who won't let nature take it's course and have to artificially "help" people but it only enables them. The $10-$12 service worker jobs are not intended to support a family. They are entry level. In most cases, you are paid what you are worth. If you've had 7 jobs in 5 years and don't do a great job when you do show up to work, they you're either not going to be paid much or never get hired. Instead of rewarding those like this with public assistance, you have to make them work, and work correctly .

This is still a country where YOU can pull yourself up out of poverty, if you want too.
 
You went a long way here.

Using DoorDash and then complaining that you struggle to make ends meet does not jive.
I didn't complain that I stuggle to make ends meet and I've never used door-dash. Where'd you get that jump? I must have thrown an unintended personal pronoun in there somewhere or you were connecting to some past thought?

I believe it was others connecting door-dash as the cause of all human suffering. I'm not willing to rule that out but on that post you responded to? I was countering that generality already made buy others, not relaying personal experience.
 
I didn't complain that I stuggle to make ends meet and I've never used door-dash. Where'd you get that jump? I must have thrown an unintended personal pronoun in there somewhere or you were connecting to some past thought?

I believe it was others connecting door-dash as the cause of all human suffering. I'm not willing to rule that out but on that post you responded to? I was countering that generality already made buy others, not relaying personal experience.
I did not suggest you use DoorDash or struggle. There are plenty that do, which "I do not get."
 
I did not suggest you use DoorDash or struggle. There are plenty that do, which "I do not get."
Ah, yours was a general "you." I thought you were talking about me when you wrote "you." Got it.

OT: Honestly those I do see struggling and wasting really seem to have no idea why. They can't seem to make the connect. Around lunch, walk into almost any restaurant, fast food or otherwise and see the boxes stacked up waiting to be delivered. Downtown is crazy that way. How the heck did they eat before door-dash?
 
Ah, yours was a general "you." I thought you were talking about me when you wrote "you." Got it.

OT: Honestly those I do see struggling and wasting really seem to have no idea why. They can't seem to make the connect. Around lunch, walk into almost any restaurant, fast food or otherwise and see the boxes stacked up waiting to be delivered. Downtown is crazy that way. How the heck did they eat before door-dash?
Probably packed their lunch. It's the most efficient, cheapest way to eat. I think many would cringe if they saw what they spent on breakfast/ lunch annually on work days. The disappearing paycheck.
 
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