Indeed they did. I can't decide if I should applaud them for doing what they were supposed to do.The runners behind them knew the course.
They all knew the course. The correct route was taped off and a worker instructed them to go the other route (the JH course). And, it wasn’t just Lakota runners, but most of the field. The runners after the first two doubled back and ran an extra 1/2 mile. That’s why the times are so bad from the race.The runners behind them knew the course.
Even if I was 100% positive, I still don't think I would be 100% positive.
It's a learning moment. Going forward, know the course. If they did not run the proper course, they are DQ'd I would imagine. Unless every single other runner also ran the wrong course. I think part of the sport is knowing the course. I don't feel too bad for them, but I can certainly understand that being told by an "official" is very hard to go against. Very odd though that results would include runners not running the correct course. I could see not posting any results at all vs team scores that have to be wrong.Particularly when you are running all out. Why even post results in that situation?
It's a learning moment. Going forward, know the course. If they did not run the proper course, they are DQ'd I would imagine. Unless every single other runner also ran the wrong course. I think part of the sport is knowing the course. I don't feel too bad for them, but I can certainly understand that being told by an "official" is very hard to go against. Very odd though that results would include runners not running the correct course. I could see not posting any results at all vs team scores that have to be wrong.
I do not think there should be lead vehicles,
They DQ'd themselves. I guess now we can just assume outcomes. Not good.They were not DQ'd they were given fake times after realizing they went the wrong way and walked off the course going back to the camps, and then awarded fictitious times getting the individual 1st and 2nd place and then team win. EVERYONE else doubled back and ran the proper course but the leaders. That is unacceptable. Lebanon boys deserve that win in this situation and the Bellbrook runner deserves the individual win.
I've never seen a lead runner interfered with in 50 years. (Not saying it doesn't happen, I just haven't seen it.) I have seen issues with the lead vehicle going the wrong way, going too fast or too slow, getting into it with spectators for no good reason. I personally just don't see a need for it. Maybe this year when it might not be the easiest or best thing to do to walk the course ahead of time. We use one more for a communications tool than anything. I'm not sure it's a help to the runners.To me the most important reason for a lead vehicle is to clear the course of spectators. Saves the lead runner from being taken out by a fan. If the lead runner in a pack they are much more likely to be seen by fans but if you have a sole runner that has a 30 sec lead many don't see him/her coming.
I've seen more problems w/ spectators walking out in front of stragglers as opposed to lead runners. The one time in my lowly running career that I was behind a lead vehicle, I didn't care for it. Breathing all of that 4-wheeler exhaust wasn't much of a perk for leading the race.To me the most important reason for a lead vehicle is to clear the course of spectators. Saves the lead runner from being taken out by a fan. If the lead runner in a pack they are much more likely to be seen by fans but if you have a sole runner that has a 30 sec lead many don't see him/her coming.
To my original statement, I guess I need to add that if you're going to be a course marshal, then you better know the course or at least know what's supposed to happen in your sector of the course.I've never seen a lead runner interfered with in 50 years. (Not saying it doesn't happen, I just haven't seen it.) I have seen issues with the lead vehicle going the wrong way, going too fast or too slow, getting into it with spectators for no good reason. I personally just don't see a need for it. Maybe this year when it might not be the easiest or best thing to do to walk the course ahead of time. We use one more for a communications tool than anything. I'm not sure it's a help to the runners.
I remember that race. IIRC, the 5th runner knew she had another lap and kept going. The 1st 4 jumped up from the infield and ran that 8th lap with 3 of the 4 making it into the top 4. A call was made to the OHSAA (mot likely to Dale Gabor), and the response was something along the lines of, "you're only sending 4 runners to state, so figure something out." The solution was to come back for a re-run 2 days in later in 90+ degree heat. IIRC, there was a clock at the finish line. I would think a few of those top 4 runners would've realized their times couldn't possibly be correct for having completed 8 laps.It even happens in track. Was at a Regional track meet when they started stopping the leaders after 7 laps in the 3200 and mid to back backers kept going. Ended up we had to come back 2 or 3 days later and run it again only a few days before State. I guess it can be hard at times to count to 8!
Dust can be bad this time of year as well. People are starting to use bicycles as well, which is better I think. Still how do you post times for people that never finished. Eaton is quite experienced at holding meets. This is strange.I've seen more problems w/ spectators walking out in front of stragglers as opposed to lead runners. The one time in my lowly running career that I was behind a lead vehicle, I didn't care for it. Breathing all of that 4-wheeler exhaust wasn't much of a perk for leading the race.
My son had lapped the field at the Xenia Inv. 3200. After he crossed the finish line, the next two runners stopped when they finished their 7th lap. The lap counters gave them their times as if they were done. Our second runner was in 4th and kept running. After he passed, we informed the official that the other two weren’t finished. They both smiled and took off running. ( my boy still holds the meet record)I remember that race. IIRC, the 5th runner knew she had another lap and kept going. The 1st 4 jumped up from the infield and ran that 8th lap with 3 of the 4 making it into the top 4. A call as made to the OHSAA (mot likely to Dale Gabor), and the response was something along the lines of, "you're only sending 4 runners to state, so figure something out." The solution was to come back for a re-run 2 days in later in 90+ degree heat. IIRC, there was a clock at the finish line. I would think a few of those top 4 runners would've realized their times couldn't possibly be correct for having completed 8 laps.