Harrycrane
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Thanks Kramer. I have to admit I was surprised to see Berlin and Liberty meet at this point in time in terms of where the programs are , BUT it's Covid times and staying closer and playing intra district games makes sense . I think the Orange - Tangy match-up is Davidson - Darby like this year in the winner will be who doesn't throw up on themselves like Darby seems to vs Davidson { Last year the two bad punt snaps and a total collapse , and last nights two 15 yard penalty's on the last drive .
Liberty will grind like they usually do and I do lean Tangy in a respect but Orange as you say does find ways to win . They lose some very good players that were productive but they have a small handful of key guys I like. New QB's makes it interesting . The press reported that this kid Pepera was going to be the Davidson QB , more than once, he WASN'T . So the lack of real information is well REAL . Lol . I was impressed with some of Tangy's underclassman last year and they are bigger and stronger this year as the Senior group is good. Middleton is a handful . Again new QB's ' everywhere it seems in some of these match-ups . Jerome and Coffman do return their guys.
Nixon is a really good back and I like that Davidson uses the pass at times now , 5-6 for 73 was THE difference in the game I thought. Darby ZERO passing yards ? QB ran for over 100 vs. Davidson and you still find a way to lose? Well it was the 73 yards passing AND the 45-10 penalty yards including 30 on the last drive vs Darby . Going into the last drive it was 15 - 10 in penalty yards. Giving away 30m free yards was inexcusable . That was the game in a Nutshell .
BIG win for Davidson as I think they have a tough schedule and with only 6 games they needed that one big time. And being the winning program they are they find ways to win . Don't mean to pile on Darby but this type of loss was so typical in this series. Look as a Coffman guy they lost three games last year by a total of 7 points , they found a couple ways to lose last year and didn't make plays they needed to on a few occasions as well . They were arguably better than each team they lost to . It happens. Kids and coaches make mistakes .
I agree that Coffman has more big play guys than Jerome has. That much is obvious . But the Rocks were behind 14-10 two years ago at the half and tied 14-14 last year . This is a legit rivalry game that has the elements of a team playing a bit over it's ski's and going to the wire with the more talented team . It hasn't happened the last two years as Coffman wore them down a bit. Jerome classes have been stronger except the Senior group. Obviously Coffman is a Senior laden experienced club and has the playmakers on both sides to make the difference over 48 minutes.
Rocks need to match the emotion, get a handle on the game earlier than mid third quarter and then grind out the win. Coffman has done a nice job changing the offense a bit as I was hoping and opining about going away from the zone read only or heavy run game attack and being a bit more creative. They have used their athletes in varying degrees both ways , and have improved their special teams return games big time the last few years.
The Coffman brand is more a defensive one the last few years as well. 33 games in a row not giving up 30 or more points. They make good adjustments in the second half, use their speed to mix in well times blitzes to make key negative plays. One of the keys I think is overlooked in what determines the winner in games is big negative plays defensively. It's true at every level of football . Protecting and pre4ssuring the QB is often the key to winning football games.
Jerome being able to protect their guy for an additional 2 seconds to find his receivers is going to be huge. If Jerome can't run the ball , they are going to have some problems . They haven't been able to consistently do that the last two meetings and the Rocks need to keep that advantage tonight . They have a couple new starters in the front seven who need to step up . The experienced guys need to help them out.
Last year vs. Jerome the Rocks didn't use Threats at RB . I believe he had one carry. He will have more tonight . He could be a problem for the country clubbers. He finishes runs as well as any Coffman back I have seen. Strength , burst, toughness , balance and speed . QB Mathews had some key runs in the second half when the Rocks pulled away a bit in the second half. I think Jerome will have to key on Threats to have a chance to slow him down, and if they do that Coffman will have to make them pay down field and on some crossing routes on play action throws behind the Linebackers. They hit one big one last year to keep a drive alive and they will have a few chances to get that done tonight.
Covering onside kicks has been an issue the last 5-6 years for Coffman. It made the Whitmer game interesting into the 4th quarter unnecessarily after being up 28-3 in the third. Don't think for a moment that Jerome doesn't know this and is looking for times to do it .
Rocks have an excellent FG kicker who kicked one last year that gave the Rocks a cushion. Magyar has a D-1 level leg . Love to see him get a couple tonight if the Rocks stall . Rain is not supposed to stop for many hours in the afternoon into the evening . Don't think this will be an equalizer of any kind really as the Rocks probably have the advantage in the run game .
Rocks have a couple younger Running backs who I think they need to bring along this year , not only for next year but for this year. Threats is a tremendous defensive player and with Kirk leaving for Hoban , safety is a position of need for the Rocks. Threats can be a difference maker back there and if he can not have to carry too heavy a load on offense he can be even a bigger presence on the defensive side of the ball.
Rocks have the experience and talent to win here. But if they aren't focused , don't play with a fanatical level of effort, don't finish and get off blocks , don't play with discipline , and don't execute well, the Country Clubbers can really hang here. I think the Rocks will be ready , have worked hard and have the players to make things happen that will make the difference.
Rocks 27 Celts 13
Liberty will grind like they usually do and I do lean Tangy in a respect but Orange as you say does find ways to win . They lose some very good players that were productive but they have a small handful of key guys I like. New QB's makes it interesting . The press reported that this kid Pepera was going to be the Davidson QB , more than once, he WASN'T . So the lack of real information is well REAL . Lol . I was impressed with some of Tangy's underclassman last year and they are bigger and stronger this year as the Senior group is good. Middleton is a handful . Again new QB's ' everywhere it seems in some of these match-ups . Jerome and Coffman do return their guys.
Nixon is a really good back and I like that Davidson uses the pass at times now , 5-6 for 73 was THE difference in the game I thought. Darby ZERO passing yards ? QB ran for over 100 vs. Davidson and you still find a way to lose? Well it was the 73 yards passing AND the 45-10 penalty yards including 30 on the last drive vs Darby . Going into the last drive it was 15 - 10 in penalty yards. Giving away 30m free yards was inexcusable . That was the game in a Nutshell .
BIG win for Davidson as I think they have a tough schedule and with only 6 games they needed that one big time. And being the winning program they are they find ways to win . Don't mean to pile on Darby but this type of loss was so typical in this series. Look as a Coffman guy they lost three games last year by a total of 7 points , they found a couple ways to lose last year and didn't make plays they needed to on a few occasions as well . They were arguably better than each team they lost to . It happens. Kids and coaches make mistakes .
I agree that Coffman has more big play guys than Jerome has. That much is obvious . But the Rocks were behind 14-10 two years ago at the half and tied 14-14 last year . This is a legit rivalry game that has the elements of a team playing a bit over it's ski's and going to the wire with the more talented team . It hasn't happened the last two years as Coffman wore them down a bit. Jerome classes have been stronger except the Senior group. Obviously Coffman is a Senior laden experienced club and has the playmakers on both sides to make the difference over 48 minutes.
Rocks need to match the emotion, get a handle on the game earlier than mid third quarter and then grind out the win. Coffman has done a nice job changing the offense a bit as I was hoping and opining about going away from the zone read only or heavy run game attack and being a bit more creative. They have used their athletes in varying degrees both ways , and have improved their special teams return games big time the last few years.
The Coffman brand is more a defensive one the last few years as well. 33 games in a row not giving up 30 or more points. They make good adjustments in the second half, use their speed to mix in well times blitzes to make key negative plays. One of the keys I think is overlooked in what determines the winner in games is big negative plays defensively. It's true at every level of football . Protecting and pre4ssuring the QB is often the key to winning football games.
Jerome being able to protect their guy for an additional 2 seconds to find his receivers is going to be huge. If Jerome can't run the ball , they are going to have some problems . They haven't been able to consistently do that the last two meetings and the Rocks need to keep that advantage tonight . They have a couple new starters in the front seven who need to step up . The experienced guys need to help them out.
Last year vs. Jerome the Rocks didn't use Threats at RB . I believe he had one carry. He will have more tonight . He could be a problem for the country clubbers. He finishes runs as well as any Coffman back I have seen. Strength , burst, toughness , balance and speed . QB Mathews had some key runs in the second half when the Rocks pulled away a bit in the second half. I think Jerome will have to key on Threats to have a chance to slow him down, and if they do that Coffman will have to make them pay down field and on some crossing routes on play action throws behind the Linebackers. They hit one big one last year to keep a drive alive and they will have a few chances to get that done tonight.
Covering onside kicks has been an issue the last 5-6 years for Coffman. It made the Whitmer game interesting into the 4th quarter unnecessarily after being up 28-3 in the third. Don't think for a moment that Jerome doesn't know this and is looking for times to do it .
Rocks have an excellent FG kicker who kicked one last year that gave the Rocks a cushion. Magyar has a D-1 level leg . Love to see him get a couple tonight if the Rocks stall . Rain is not supposed to stop for many hours in the afternoon into the evening . Don't think this will be an equalizer of any kind really as the Rocks probably have the advantage in the run game .
Rocks have a couple younger Running backs who I think they need to bring along this year , not only for next year but for this year. Threats is a tremendous defensive player and with Kirk leaving for Hoban , safety is a position of need for the Rocks. Threats can be a difference maker back there and if he can not have to carry too heavy a load on offense he can be even a bigger presence on the defensive side of the ball.
Rocks have the experience and talent to win here. But if they aren't focused , don't play with a fanatical level of effort, don't finish and get off blocks , don't play with discipline , and don't execute well, the Country Clubbers can really hang here. I think the Rocks will be ready , have worked hard and have the players to make things happen that will make the difference.
Rocks 27 Celts 13
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