Pretty much. Tough pill to swallow, but you gotta f’n swallow it and move on. Sports are too important to me to give up over politics. However, if it ever got to the point where the overall message of the protests are intentionally to give a middle finger to the US, I might reconsider.Yes, I don't agree with any of the BLM platform and I hate how it's being shoved down everyone's throats in an Orweillian, forced nature. It's groupthink and straight out of 1984. It's also extremely hypocritical that MLB, NBA, NFL, etc are pretending to care about human rights while accepting billions from Nike to produce their uniforms. Nothing but pandering bs, that's it. But I'm not going to stop rooting for the Reds or any other team because the players have different political beliefs than I do, that would be dumb.
YepPretty much. Tough pill to swallow, but you gotta f’n swallow it and move on. Sports are too important to me to give up over politics. However, if it ever got to the point where the overall message of the protests are intentionally to give a middle finger to the US, I might reconsider.
There’s going to be players on every team that do this.Votto and Suarez are a POS, I hope the Reds lose every game
He hopes they lose every game too!There’s going to be players on every team that do this.
I know, eff them allThere’s going to be players on every team that do this.
this is almost certainly correct. I've said it on other threads, the players don't immerse themselves in the politics of the organization. They just want to support their black teammates and the community. 100% OK with me. GO REDS!I choose to believe the vast majority support the general idea and not the actual organization. It’s the only way for me to reconcile the insanity.
What about the Hispanic teammates. I guess their life does not matter. This is all BS as you know and their is no excuse for it. It is called division which is the goal of this organization. I will support my fellow southerners by flying the Confederate Flag. I don't know the politics around it but I am just going to support them anyways..... Would you be 100% OK with that?this is almost certainly correct. I've said it on other threads, the players don't immerse themselves in the politics of the organization. They just want to support their black teammates and the community. 100% OK with me. GO REDS!
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Good one.All 5 of the black residents of Boston will love that
ESPN will milk it every second of it...... Even if you put the game on Mute the damn BLM logo will be right there at the pitchers mound. Frankly, it is racist. If you exchange black with white and it is racist then it is racist the other way around as well.Like I've said many, many, many times. I go to get entertained. Them kneeling, doesn't really bother me as long as they don't grab the microphone and inform us of why they are doing it. I could care less about their political views, I want them to hit that fast ball, change up, curve, slider, etc over the stinking fence! Again, I don't want to hear their political views. Just entertain me dang nab it!
wait until kids at badin kneel. lolHe hopes they lose every game too!![]()
You certainly could argue that and you would reveal how galactically stupid we all know you areWe kneel in church as a sign of reverence and sometimes kneel to pray. Men often kneel to show respect when proposing. Why is kneeling during the anthem considered disrespectful by some? You could argue that taking a knee during the anthem is a respectful way to try to send a message.
Those of you so anti-kneeling - explain. It's not the kneeling, it's that you hate the message right?
You'll have to troll much harder, but an OK effortwait until kids at badin kneel. lol
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Consider the possibility that they know the risk and choose to do this because they think it is the right thing to doI support the Reds as a baseball team, I don't care about their philosophies in life.
However, I think pro athletes are dancing very dangerously with what I feel they don't really understand. Much of the salaries that these guys get are driven through the massive TV contracts that the teams have with ESPN, Turner, CBS, ABC, ect. These contracts are based on viewership. The die hards are always going to be there, but much of the growth is from the fringe fans. The people that watch the big games. If you lose a good chunk of that audience, guess what? The owners make less money and the players pay will eventually suffer.
The risk the players are taking is that the "woke" audience grows enough to offset the losses of the traditional fan.
It’s not exactly a diverse city.Good one.
How much have NFL tix prices jumped since 2016? I’m guessing there’s a lot of leeway before they even really feel the sting of lost viewershipI support the Reds as a baseball team, I don't care about their philosophies in life.
However, I think pro athletes are dancing very dangerously with what I feel they don't really understand. Much of the salaries that these guys get are driven through the massive TV contracts that the teams have with ESPN, Turner, CBS, ABC, ect. These contracts are based on viewership. The die hards are always going to be there, but much of the growth is from the fringe fans. The people that watch the big games. If you lose a good chunk of that audience, guess what? The owners make less money and the players pay will eventually suffer.
The risk the players are taking is that the "woke" audience grows enough to offset the losses of the traditional fan.
Not all of them. But then those who disagree don’t really have any choice do they? The woke mob and all.Consider the possibility that they know the risk and choose to do this because they think it is the right thing to do