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None of this has anything to do with the state semis and this game. Why does there have to always be a reason why a team won and went this far? Maybe the reason is all of the teams left are really good.Region 9 was down compared to the last 3 years. There were times in the last 3 seasons when 7 of the top 10-12 in the state rankings were from region 9. The addition of the privates this year weakened Region 9 overall. Yeah, Ursuline was good and Chardon Canfield also good. But adding Gilmour, CVCA, VASJ, Hawken and US softened the region.
Losing Steubenville (how they ever were put in region 9 is still puzzling), Hubbard, SVSM, undefeated Dover and Streetsboro (loaded up with Akron city kids and Mike Hall) made for a weaker region and yes Division. Those 5 were better overall than anything added in the region this year. Tallmadge and Aurora were both state ranked in those years also. I think they were both a little down this year.
As I posted earlier, and Hewitt stated in his post-game interview, Chardon was going to have trouble with all the youngsters on the offensive line against a team like Canfield. He said something to the effect of "18 year olds vs freshman/sophomores".
Of course, these things are cyclical. Division 2 is a monster this year. So many good teams and arguably tougher than D1. No way division 3 got better this year.
Who cares?? They won this year..Canfield's D played well yes and the game scheme was solid but aside from the two long runs by #11 and #12, Canfieds O wasnt overly impressive. Neither team passed well probably due to cold weather and winds whipping around in the stadium. Chardon had that one potential big gain pass drop which was self inflicted and had nothing to do with Canfield's secondary coverage. Field looked to be a bit slick which may have affected Chardons jet sweeps and speed. And Canfields North/South running game was perfect for the conditions. As far as proving "again and again" i assume you mean against the rest of their competition because this is the first time in 3 years they've showed up against Chardon. After looking back two years, they got outscored by the Hilltoppers by a combined 65-20.
I agree with you that Hawken, US, Gilmour, and CVCA weren’t actually that strong. Having said that, going into the year I thought Benedictine, Ursuline, and VASJ were equivalent replacements for Dover, SVSM, and Steubenville, but Benedictine was uncharacteristically bad, and VASJ underwhelmed, as well. The region does feel weaker this year, because Chardon did not seem as invincible. Props to Canfield for capitalizing. I think last year’s Chardon, Canfield, Dover, and Aurora are all better than any team in region 9 this year.Please look at the teams Hawken, US, Gilmour, CVCA played. A very inflated 47-11. Lot of D5, D6 teams on those schedules. Warrensville Hts., Grand Valley, Tuslaw, Trinity, Beachwood, Manchester on their schedules. There's a reason none of them were state ranked like Dover, SVSM, Streetsboro, Hubbard and Steubenville were in those "glory years" years of region 9. And Aurora and Tallmadge were down. No way those privates made for a better region in 2022.
Would not call the game last Friday an ugly one, was a great defensive battle between two of the best programs in the state. You must not have watched the actual game, so I understand how the score may portray a not-so-glamorous win.Canfield won an ugly one,
There is no such thing as ugly win.Would not call the game last Friday an ugly one, was a great defensive battle between two of the best programs in the state. You must not have watched the actual game, so I understand how the score may portray a not-so-glamorous win.
I apologize for responding to another yappi member about high school football on a high school football forum. Please, nobody discusses anything else about Region 9 football. NBC is here to learn and not ask questions about why a team won. Also, no more comments on Euclid and safety concerns, unless the safety is Broc Lowry. We're here for you NBC.None of this has anything to do with the state semis and this game. Why does there have to always be a reason why a team won and went this far? Maybe the reason is all of the teams left are really good.
I got lost at #1 and I'm a numbers guy. Well done lol.Ok, I have 2 ways to analyze this from 2 comparative score ranges. Using +/- 3 for home field advantage, here is the deciding factors for picking this game.
#1 Mansfield beat New Phila away 21-10 for a factor of 14. Holy Name beat Mansfield by 1 so factor is 15. Canfield beat New Phila by 27-10 home for a factor of 14. Holy Name by 1
#2 HM lost to Clyde away 20-17 for a factor of 0. Bellevue lost to Clyde away 13 -12 for a -2 factor. Canfield beat Bellevue 28-12 at home for a factor of 13. So that's Canfield +15.
Total = Canfield by 14. Maybe.
You must have been watching with blinders. The offensive side was ugly. Uglier for Chardon. That being said, it was a great defensive battle. That might have been the 2 best defenses in DIII. Great defenses tend to make offenses ugly.Would not call the game last Friday an ugly one, was a great defensive battle between two of the best programs in the state. You must not have watched the actual game, so I understand how the score may portray a not-so-glamorous win.
Canfield beat Bellevue away Should be a factor of 19Ok, I have 2 ways to analyze this from 2 comparative score ranges. Using +/- 3 for home field advantage, here is the deciding factors for picking this game.
#1 Mansfield beat New Phila away 21-10 for a factor of 14. Holy Name beat Mansfield by 1 so factor is 15. Canfield beat New Phila by 27-10 home for a factor of 14. Holy Name by 1
#2 HM lost to Clyde away 20-17 for a factor of 0. Bellevue lost to Clyde away 13 -12 for a -2 factor. Canfield beat Bellevue 28-12 at home for a factor of 13. So that's Canfield +15.
Total = Canfield by 14. Maybe.
I agree with this. The defense has been very strong coming down the line and are some what unsung heroes.Canfield wins. Their defense doesn't get enough credit for how they have played. #27, #11, #40 are very good ball players.
We shall see, I correctly predicted the exact score/outcome last week for Canfield...Canfield 35
Holy Name 34
3OT
That score is from the 1993 Holy War game between St. Ignatius and St. Edward. St. Ignatius won the game. EagleFan, a St. Edward alum, is still kinda upset about it so he posts that score everywhereWe shall see, I correctly predicted the exact score/outcome last week for Canfield...
I don't think they would get to a 3rd OT, someone would go for 2 probably before that.
My prediction was off slightly, actual final was 38-21
Off the top of my head Chardon and Ursuline are both clearly better, Holy Name is probably only 7th or 8th in region 9.Canfield was by far the better team, and region 9 was way stronger. I’m not sure Holy Name is top 4-5 in region 9.
Tangentiality ( [tan-jen″she-al´ĭ-te]) The tendency to speak about topics unrelated to the main topic of discussion.Something interesting is when I was a student in college as a freshmen I had two roommates, one went to Padua Franciscan and the other went to Holy Name. I haven't talked to the guy from Holy Name in almost 20 years I think. Just a weird anecdote I suppose of little to no interest.
I am thinking the Holy Name attendance might be a bit stronger due to being in closer proximity. I don't even know how many fans they usually have when they aren't playing Padua, as that is the only time I saw them play lately.