Division 1 - Toledo Districts
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Buckeye2220
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These teams are broken up into 2 districts. Rankings are a little funky in this moment in time. The favorites to go to Regionals, in my eyes, are Whitmer, Lima, Perrysburg, and St. John's. The next tier of teams that can compete to get to the District Finals are Findlay, Tiffin Columbian, Start, and Northview.
I don't think Tiffin Columbian is a top 5 team. They are more around 9 or 10. They lost to BG earlier this year.
Findlay still has to the TRAC another go around so they have more losses coming. St. Francis as well, I don't think they are a top 10 team as well.
No specific order:
Northview
Perrysburg
St. Johns
Whitmer
Start
Lima Senior
after that
Findlay
Tiffin Columbian
Bowling Green
Findlay still has to the TRAC another go around so they have more losses coming. St. Francis as well, I don't think they are a top 10 team as well.
No specific order:
Northview
Perrysburg
St. Johns
Whitmer
Start
Lima Senior
after that
Findlay
Tiffin Columbian
Bowling Green
eastisbest
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Does it "look" right? I still think, in basketball where there are more cross-over district and state games, coaches do it better. AI works better than deterministic math. Most coaches have a brain, hence better at the rankings.
More games will bring more averaging but everything is in conference now. If numbers do not work after the OOC, I don't think they'll work after conference. We'll see how they adjust but I really think important to keep open mind and see how well they predict the final play-off results versus how well the coaches have historically predicted play-off results.
Some gamesmanship with which games should be included in the calculations might give insight into what could make this work. Is it useful to include games played in Az, Fl,...? Or maybe it's correct and the brains are wrong. Time will tell.
More games will bring more averaging but everything is in conference now. If numbers do not work after the OOC, I don't think they'll work after conference. We'll see how they adjust but I really think important to keep open mind and see how well they predict the final play-off results versus how well the coaches have historically predicted play-off results.
Some gamesmanship with which games should be included in the calculations might give insight into what could make this work. Is it useful to include games played in Az, Fl,...? Or maybe it's correct and the brains are wrong. Time will tell.
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eastisbest
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Buckeye2220
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Obviously there is plenty of time for the rankings to change a bit, but as of this moment here are 2 observations as if the tournament draw was today.
Northview and Findlay are going to be jumped on pretty quickly. People are going to stay away from Perrysburg and Whitmer which means teams in the 5-8 range are going to be all over Northview and Findlay.
St. John's is DANGEROUS as a 10 seed. Unfortunately for them, all of the good spots could be gone before they select, but if they can get the right matchups, I like them to make it to a District Championship game.
Northview and Findlay are going to be jumped on pretty quickly. People are going to stay away from Perrysburg and Whitmer which means teams in the 5-8 range are going to be all over Northview and Findlay.
St. John's is DANGEROUS as a 10 seed. Unfortunately for them, all of the good spots could be gone before they select, but if they can get the right matchups, I like them to make it to a District Championship game.
Buckeye2220
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Big changes last night. Here are the current rankings:
1. Perrysburg
2. Lima Sr.
3. Whitmer
4. Tiffin Columbian
5. Findlay
6. Northview
7. Start
8. St. John's
9. St. Francis
10. Springfield
11. Anthony Wayne
12. Mansfield Madison
13. Bowling Green
14. Southview
15. Fremont
16. Bowsher
17. Ashland
18. Clay
19. Waite
1. Perrysburg
2. Lima Sr.
3. Whitmer
4. Tiffin Columbian
5. Findlay
6. Northview
7. Start
8. St. John's
9. St. Francis
10. Springfield
11. Anthony Wayne
12. Mansfield Madison
13. Bowling Green
14. Southview
15. Fremont
16. Bowsher
17. Ashland
18. Clay
19. Waite
Buckeye2220
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Tiffin Columbian is currently 4th. In my humble opinion, they would be around 9th in the old system of coaches' voting, so the new ranking system has clearly benefitted them. They better be ready for teams to jump on them QUICKLY during the draw.
The other difference between the voting and rankings would be St. John's being a bit higher in the vote and Northview would be a tad lower. SJJ would probably be 5th and Northview would be 8th.
Other than those 2 things, I think the RPI isn't too bad. A lot can still change with some good games coming this weekend.
The other difference between the voting and rankings would be St. John's being a bit higher in the vote and Northview would be a tad lower. SJJ would probably be 5th and Northview would be 8th.
Other than those 2 things, I think the RPI isn't too bad. A lot can still change with some good games coming this weekend.
Agree.....Columbian has 2 "not good" losses. To be above Findlay is a bit of a stretch. Yes, better record than Findlay but Findlay really doesn't have any bad losses and has several pretty good wins....while Columbian's win over Sandusky is about all they have. The SOS (Findlay 38, Columbian 134) isn't close. I'd probably move Findlay to 4, St Johns to 5 and Columbian no better than 6th
ayCC!
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In a head to head I would take Start over Northview, Findlay, and maybe Columbian. I'd say the only matchup where I wouldn't favor them to win would maybe be Perrysburg or Lima. Hightower and Edwards are two dangerous players.