dalton coach

MassillonK1D330 said:
I think that's the difference of other people though some people are willing to take the challenge and going to a bigger school because a lot of coaches feel like it is a challenge but some coaches are content to stay where they are.
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I’ve got to agree with @perry1480 on this one — coaches get into the game for different reasons. Some see it as a career path and are always looking for that next step up. Those are usually the ones who move on when "bigger and better" opportunities come along.

But others coach because they feel a deep connection to a particular community or have a different purpose driving them, not because they are avoiding the challenge of something new.

A popular college baseball coach I really respect once said, “Live every day selling tickets to your funeral.” That phrase didn’t click with me right away, but over time, it really sunk in. To me, living that way means striving to make a lasting impact on the people around you. And sometimes, that’s best done by staying in one place — building trust, a strong reputation, and deep relationships over time.

Sure, bouncing around from school to school might give you the chance to work with more athletes and families. But without roots, it’s harder to leave a meaningful, lasting legacy. Just my two cents.
 
thePITman said:
I’ve got to agree with @perry1480 on this one — coaches get into the game for different reasons. Some see it as a career path and are always looking for that next step up. Those are usually the ones who move on when "bigger and better" opportunities come along.

But others coach because they feel a deep connection to a particular community or have a different purpose driving them, not because they are avoiding the challenge of something new.

A popular college baseball coach I really respect once said, “Live every day selling tickets to your funeral.” That phrase didn’t click with me right away, but over time, it really sunk in. To me, living that way means striving to make a lasting impact on the people around you. And sometimes, that’s best done by staying in one place — building trust, a strong reputation, and deep relationships over time.

Sure, bouncing around from school to school might give you the chance to work with more athletes and families. But without roots, it’s harder to leave a meaningful, lasting legacy. Just my two cents.
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bloom where your planted!
 
187xovr said:
The success they continue to have despite the dysfunction in the district is truly remarkable. As remarkable as it is........it is also very likely over. The talent pipeline has dried up significantly. I think it will be awhile before Dalton can compete for league titles and deep postseason runs in football and boys basketball.
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They will be competitive in the league the next two years in football and basketball, admittedly not at the level over the last five years.
 
danville96 said:
So the guy who transferred his son out of Dalton is now the Dalton Head coach?
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Yes. But it is still a good hire. I think he is a first time head coach, but he should be solid and provide stability at the position. Dalton is going to be down for several years compared to the last 5 or so years, but they should still remain in the top half of the league.
 
danville96 said:
So the guy who transferred his son out of Dalton is now the Dalton Head coach?
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After reading this post, I googled the guy, this seems like it could be a dumpster fire in the making. My disclaimer being this is all based on a 5 minute google search, I do not know anyone from Dalton and could be completely wrong on some of my assumptions made from the search.
 
187xovr said:
Yes. But it is still a good hire. I think he is a first time head coach, but he should be solid and provide stability at the position. Dalton is going to be down for several years compared to the last 5 or so years, but they should still remain in the top half of the league.
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Stability is the key here. He lives in area and is highly thought of. He's the kind of person who will see it through even in the down years. He was an excellent JV coach under Dial and a great play caller. I applaud the hire.
 
187xovr said:
Yes. But it is still a good hire. I think he is a first time head coach, but he should be solid and provide stability at the position. Dalton is going to be down for several years compared to the last 5 or so years, but they should still remain in the top half of the league.
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Does he have any other sons coming up or is the Garaway QB who is getting ready to graduate his youngest or only son?

I'm curious since and Danville and Dalton play in 26 and 27
 
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danville96 said:
Does he have any other sons coming up or is the Garaway QB who is getting ready to graduate his youngest or only son?

I'm curious since and Danville and Dalton play in 26 and 27
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I am not completely sure, but I think his son graduating from Garaway is his only son. Coach Geibel has trained athletes (not just football players) at his Dalton area training facility for a number of years.
lightspeed84 said:
After reading this post, I googled the guy, this seems like it could be a dumpster fire in the making. My disclaimer being this is all based on a 5 minute google search, I do not know anyone from Dalton and could be completely wrong on some of my assumptions made from the search.
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I think too much is being made of his son transferring to Garaway. His son obviously put a lot of time into becoming a QB. He was not going to start at Dalton until his senior year. He found a viable alternative where he could get on the field earlier than that and took advantage of it. For the most part, I think it worked out well for all concerned parties. Dalton went to the state championship game with the QB they had in place, and Brady Geibel had a good two year stint at Garaway. Both QBs are playing college football.
 
187xovr said:
I am not completely sure, but I think his son graduating from Garaway is his only son. Coach Geibel has trained athletes (not just football players) at his Dalton area training facility for a number of years.

I think too much is being made of his son transferring to Garaway. His son obviously put a lot of time into becoming a QB. He was not going to start at Dalton until his senior year. He found a viable alternative where he could get on the field earlier than that and took advantage of it. For the most part, I think it worked out well for all concerned parties. Dalton went to the state championship game with the QB they had in place, and Brady Geibel had a good two year stint at Garaway. Both QBs are playing college football.
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Yeah this sounds like a dumpster fire in the making with a lot small town politics, etc. Good luck hope I am wrong.
 
When a player transfers to a different district, whether or not future encounters turn into a "dumpster fire" really depends on the tone and approach of the conversations happening behind the scenes. We've seen similar situations in other schools, and the key factors are often the motives behind the move and how the family communicates with the previous district.

If it's handled respectfully, with a focus on what's best for the student, that’s usually a good sign. But if there’s tension, animosity, or unprofessional behavior in those interactions, it can create problems down the line.

I don’t know the specifics of how this particular situation unfolded, but I think it’s important to recognize that a transfer on its own isn’t automatically a red flag. It really comes down to how it was managed.
 
thePITman said:
When a player transfers to a different district, whether or not future encounters turn into a "dumpster fire" really depends on the tone and approach of the conversations happening behind the scenes. We've seen similar situations in other schools, and the key factors are often the motives behind the move and how the family communicates with the previous district.

If it's handled respectfully, with a focus on what's best for the student, that’s usually a good sign. But if there’s tension, animosity, or unprofessional behavior in those interactions, it can create problems down the line.

I don’t know the specifics of how this particular situation unfolded, but I think it’s important to recognize that a transfer on its own isn’t automatically a red flag. It really comes down to how it was managed.
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Well said!
 
187xovr said:
I am not completely sure, but I think his son graduating from Garaway is his only son. Coach Geibel has trained athletes (not just football players) at his Dalton area training facility for a number of years.

I think too much is being made of his son transferring to Garaway. His son obviously put a lot of time into becoming a QB. He was not going to start at Dalton until his senior year. He found a viable alternative where he could get on the field earlier than that and took advantage of it. For the most part, I think it worked out well for all concerned parties. Dalton went to the state championship game with the QB they had in place, and Brady Geibel had a good two year stint at Garaway. Both QBs are playing college football.
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Nailed it. He always talked very well of Dalton. His son wanted to play college QB, was told he wasn’t going to play that position. Hard to be a college QB when you aren’t a high school Qb.
 
I think this is a good hire for Dalton. They needed a program guy that will stay. Going too far outside of Dalton hasn't worked for them in the past (see Biliker, Shawn and Leek, Ray).
 
Dalton Football: and the fortuitous convenience of happenstance. Am I right?

Look, it seems like the Bulldog faithful like the guy and are happy with the hire. And you know something? That’s great. Even though he has less HC experience than some folks in the chat. Have at it…

But @lightspeed84 is not wrong.

Geibel coached his son while a JV QB @ Dalton? Wasn’t getting the nod over Pearson (dad also on staff right?) and transferred to Garaway. His siblings stayed at Dalton - and that’s a wrinkle that’s never been answered as the districts don’t share a border… (something about a rented house on main in Sugarcreek though an LLC) Let’s not forget the annual body snatching within the Pirate program and it’s conspiratorial link to the blind eyes of OHSAA.

Dial leaves after the state final, according to the paper, because the HC season is too grinding on a single father of 3. Makes sense, for sure & for certain.

BUT THEN!

Dial takes the Tuslaw job weeks later. (I guess the coaching season is technically shorter in Mustang country)

Dalton hires perennial stat padder and program hopper taking the scenic route back to Alliance for one year.

The Garaway QB completes football & basketball season for the Pirates and the Dad is hired back at Dalton? Just in time! Where the siblings always called home, huh?

Dalton really been Massillon-ing this hard for the last 3 years? Why did Dial walk?

Wild stuff.

Hope it works out.

…do I smell smoke?
 
Hoist the Black said:
Dalton Football: and the fortuitous convenience of happenstance. Am I right?

Look, it seems like the Bulldog faithful like the guy and are happy with the hire. And you know something? That’s great. Even though he has less HC experience than some folks in the chat. Have at it…

But @lightspeed84 is not wrong.

Geibel coached his son while a JV QB @ Dalton? Wasn’t getting the nod over Pearson (dad also on staff right?) and transferred to Garaway. His siblings stayed at Dalton - and that’s a wrinkle that’s never been answered as the districts don’t share a border… (something about a rented house on main in Sugarcreek though an LLC) Let’s not forget the annual body snatching within the Pirate program and it’s conspiratorial link to the blind eyes of OHSAA.

Dial leaves after the state final, according to the paper, because the HC season is too grinding on a single father of 3. Makes sense, for sure & for certain.

BUT THEN!

Dial takes the Tuslaw job weeks later. (I guess the coaching season is technically shorter in Mustang country)

Dalton hires perennial stat padder and program hopper taking the scenic route back to Alliance for one year.

The Garaway QB completes football & basketball season for the Pirates and the Dad is hired back at Dalton? Just in time! Where the siblings always called home, huh?

Dalton really been Massillon-ing this hard for the last 3 years? Why did Dial walk?

Wild stuff.

Hope it works out.

…do I smell smoke?
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Deer Popcorn GIF

Also, the new coach runs a business which trains high school athletes, how is this not a conflict of interest. I've literally been ODE/ohsaa professional development seminars about this kind of stuff going south.
 
lightspeed84 said:
Deer Popcorn GIF

Also, the new coach runs a business which trains high school athletes, how is this not a conflict of interest. I've literally been ODE/ohsaa professional development seminars about this kind of stuff going south.
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I saw that and thought it was interesting. Then I saw that he was a travel ball head coach and thought that was another layer as well.
 
Hoist the Black said:
Dalton Football: and the fortuitous convenience of happenstance. Am I right?

Look, it seems like the Bulldog faithful like the guy and are happy with the hire. And you know something? That’s great. Even though he has less HC experience than some folks in the chat. Have at it…

But @lightspeed84 is not wrong.

Geibel coached his son while a JV QB @ Dalton? Wasn’t getting the nod over Pearson (dad also on staff right?) and transferred to Garaway. His siblings stayed at Dalton - and that’s a wrinkle that’s never been answered as the districts don’t share a border… (something about a rented house on main in Sugarcreek though an LLC) Let’s not forget the annual body snatching within the Pirate program and it’s conspiratorial link to the blind eyes of OHSAA.

Dial leaves after the state final, according to the paper, because the HC season is too grinding on a single father of 3. Makes sense, for sure & for certain.

BUT THEN!

Dial takes the Tuslaw job weeks later. (I guess the coaching season is technically shorter in Mustang country)

Dalton hires perennial stat padder and program hopper taking the scenic route back to Alliance for one year.

The Garaway QB completes football & basketball season for the Pirates and the Dad is hired back at Dalton? Just in time! Where the siblings always called home, huh?

Dalton really been Massillon-ing this hard for the last 3 years? Why did Dial walk?

Wild stuff.

Hope it works out.

…do I smell smoke?
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The siblings did not always call Dalton home. The Geibels have lived in the Tusky Valley district longer. I believe the son left TV when he was in middle school.
 
baseball43 said:
The siblings did not always call Dalton home. The Geibels have lived in the Tusky Valley district longer. I believe the son left TV when he was in middle school.
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Wayyyy more to the QB "battle" if you want to call it that from a few years ago with Dad's on staff. If you know, you know, and from what I've heard enough people do so I'm not touching that. That story is dead and gone as it should be.

As for creating and establishing residency in another school district, c'mon man, we all know that goes on left and right and not just at the parochials and has for years. Rules are the rules, and if they are met, however thin they may be met it is what it is. Not saying I like it but transfer portal or whatever you want to call it on the HS level is coming. I believe Illinois already passed a rule allowing a one-time open transfer (not the same as the transfer back to home school rule) that Ohio already has which I fully support.

I'm not going to get into a debate about transfers, each one is different, some are justified, some are not, some are in between and have all sorts of reasons why and they are all not just, "because Johnny isn't getting to play" To each is own, do what you have to do.

As for a conflict of interest with his business, I call complete BS on that. Kids from all over the county and surrounding counties utilize his facilities. Wrestlers from Perry, Waynedale, Dalton, Tuslaw many more, football players, basketball players, baseball/softball, he** I see hay rakes in there getting ready for their beloved softball season early spring as well. He is a genuine knowledgeable guy that provides a great opportunity for kids that want to work hard whom has previous coaching experience (albeit not HC) but has now been given that opportunity. He has a guy that helps out with the training that will likely be taking maybe more of a role given Reid's new commitment and venture, but I see zero problem with this.
 
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Playoffs??? said:
Wayyyy more to the QB "battle" if you want to call it that from a few years ago with Dad's on staff. If you know, you know, and from what I've heard enough people do so I'm not touching that. That story is dead and gone as it should be.

As for creating and establishing residency in another school district, c'mon man, we all know that goes on left and right and not just at the parochials and has for years. Rules are the rules, and if they are met, however thin they may be met it is what it is. Not saying I like it but transfer portal or whatever you want to call it on the HS level is coming. I believe Illinois already passed a rule allowing a one-time open transfer (not the same as the transfer back to home school rule) that Ohio already has which I fully support.

I'm not going to get into a debate about transfers, each one is different, some are justified, some are not, some are in between and have all sorts of reasons why and they are all not just, "because Johnny isn't getting to play" To each is own, do what you have to do.

As for a conflict of interest with his business, I call complete BS on that. Kids from all over the county and surrounding counties utilize his facilities. Wrestlers from Perry, Waynedale, Dalton, Tuslaw many more, football players, basketball players, baseball/softball, he** I see hay rakes in there getting ready for their beloved softball season early spring as well. He is a genuine knowledgably guy that provides a great opportunity for kids that want to work hard whom has previous coaching experience (albeit not HC) but has now been given that opportunity. He has a guy that helps out with the training that will likely be taking maybe more of a role given Reid's new commitment and venture, but I see zero problem with this.
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The administration is obviously sold on him, parents and grandparents I have talked to are pleased with the hire, and the players are excited. I don’t think those of us who are connected to the program can ask for more than that.
 
baseball43 said:
The siblings did not always call Dalton home. The Geibels have lived in the Tusky Valley district longer. I believe the son left TV when he was in middle school.
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That's not true. They came to Dalton in elementary school. His sister is in my son's class, they were in kindergarten together, they are now sophomore's. My mother in law babysat all 3 of his children when she had a home daycare.
 
Hoist the Black said:
Dalton Football: and the fortuitous convenience of happenstance. Am I right?

Look, it seems like the Bulldog faithful like the guy and are happy with the hire. And you know something? That’s great. Even though he has less HC experience than some folks in the chat. Have at it…

But @lightspeed84 is not wrong.

Geibel coached his son while a JV QB @ Dalton? Wasn’t getting the nod over Pearson (dad also on staff right?) and transferred to Garaway. His siblings stayed at Dalton - and that’s a wrinkle that’s never been answered as the districts don’t share a border… (something about a rented house on main in Sugarcreek though an LLC) Let’s not forget the annual body snatching within the Pirate program and it’s conspiratorial link to the blind eyes of OHSAA.

Dial leaves after the state final, according to the paper, because the HC season is too grinding on a single father of 3. Makes sense, for sure & for certain.

BUT THEN!

Dial takes the Tuslaw job weeks later. (I guess the coaching season is technically shorter in Mustang country)

Dalton hires perennial stat padder and program hopper taking the scenic route back to Alliance for one year.

The Garaway QB completes football & basketball season for the Pirates and the Dad is hired back at Dalton? Just in time! Where the siblings always called home, huh?

Dalton really been Massillon-ing this hard for the last 3 years? Why did Dial walk?

Wild stuff.

Hope it works out.

…do I smell smoke?
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I do not think either QB's dad was on staff with Dial at Dalton when all of this was going down. Geibel might have been coaching middle school football at Dalton at the time. I think Pearson's dad joined Dial's staff when he went to Tuslaw. I also do not think Geibel has ever been a teacher at Dalton. Some of the Dalton fans on here can confirm or refute these things.........but that is how I understood it.
 
187xovr said:
I do not think either QB's dad was on staff with Dial at Dalton when all of this was going down. Geibel might have been coaching middle school football at Dalton at the time. I think Pearson's dad joined Dial's staff when he went to Tuslaw. I also do not think Geibel has ever been a teacher at Dalton. Some of the Dalton fans on here can confirm or refute these things.........but that is how I understood it.
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Geibel was on the staff with Dial in 2022.
 
I can understand folks liking the hire as a familiar face in the community. Or simply just liking the guy…

I’m pointing out a mess that has been relevant for 2 1/2 years. One that has involved some hefty maneuvering to get us here…

I think families and students should always choose what they feel is best for their student (if they have the means). Penalty free.

But those aren’t the rules currently in place. Do we know if Geibel threw his hat in the ring after Dial’s vacancy? Or just this year?

ANYONE WANNA KNOW WHY THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS IMPORTANT?
 
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