Some programs do great with individuals but don't get the big numbers that you often see associated with the teams that have sustained success like Woodridge or Bay. Marlington is one of those programs. They're unlikely to ever have 20+ guys on their roster.Marlington boys is one of those teams that the number of state appearances does not really indicate how good they have been.
Thank you!Nice graph CCFreak. I know that took some work well done.
I wonder how many over the D3 line they are. How close are the girls to becoming D2?Carroll has a solid program. Poor West Liberty-Salem has been D3 their entire existence.
Repeat after me: "I can make a chart, too. I can make a chart, too. I can make a chart, too."Where is the girls chart? Combined boys and girls chart?
D3 is currently 156 girls and below. The Big Orange has 146 girls which ties them with a few other schools that also fielded XC teams at the time the current numbers were taken. There were 18 schools in girls D3 that had more girls than WLS and fielded XC teams at the time the current numbers were taken.I wonder how many over the D3 line they are. How close are the girls to becoming D2?
I don’t see why the number of teams that didn’t show this year should affect anything. Most of those schools were probably not even open or open part time.Will they use the number of teams that finished 5 at district for divisional alignment? I can't recall which district but I was looking at some results and there were many teams that either did not show up or did not finish 5. I assume this is similar for many districts. Will they hold with the number of teams they used for this year since they are using the same enrollment numbers?
That is a fine question, but I do not know the answer.Will they use the number of teams that finished 5 at district for divisional alignment? I can't recall which district but I was looking at some results and there were many teams that either did not show up or did not finish 5. I assume this is similar for many districts. Will they hold with the number of teams they used for this year since they are using the same enrollment numbers?
NW had a D3 Girls race that 3 of the 5 moved to regional meet.That is a fine question, but I do not know the answer.
I can tell you in the NE District, there were only 28 girls teams in DIII that scored at the district meets. 14 of them advanced to regionals. There were 35 boys teams in DIII that scored at the district meets. 13 of them advanced to regionals. Admittedly, the NE is loaded with far more DI and DII schools, but the DIII schools must do a better job of getting 5 across the finish line at the district meet.
When I began lurking on HS message boards in the mid '00s, I recall the SE district only getting 1 team and 4 individual qualifiers to regionals for DIII girls. A quick glance at old regional results indicates that was 2005 and 2006. A major push was made within the SE to get the coaches to realize the importance of putting "5 on the line" because at the time, the number of teams was based on how many had 5 at the starting line at the district meet as opposed to how many teams had 5 runners finish. Some teams would just have kids walk the race or pull out after 1 mile. Whatever it took, they started doing it and got their allotment of regional qualifiers to increase.
I'm just messing around, and I can't make a chart. My brain is fried! I just want to look at pretty things.Repeat after me: "I can make a chart, too. I can make a chart, too. I can make a chart, too."
It's not that difficult. There may be some inaccuracies, or it may not be updated to include the past couple years which is easy enough to look up and add, but the OHSAA has the list of state appearances for each school on its XC page.
Perhaps I'll get to it later tonight, but I'll be busy for the next couple hours.
NW had a D3 Girls race that 3 of the 5 moved to regional meet.
Don't divisions, allocations, and that type of stuff normally only change in count years?
When my oldest son started running for Taylor they only had one girl on the cross country team. Three years later they won the D2 title.Heck, I could have done that!
My dad used to tell me that it's not easy to make it to the state meet. There are a lot of schools that have never made it as a team and many that haven't even had a single individual make it. I used to design cafeterias and supply equipment to schools, so I would go to a lot of schools each year. I would check out record boards for T&F and CC and it did amaze me how many did not have the success I was used to.
Galion girls making it for the first time is one I would not have guessed. Jonathan Alder only their second amazes me.
Woodridge has ripped of 16 straight. I cannot tell you how bad the team was the year or two before they started this run. So, there is hope for everyone. 16 seasons ago, they had a good class of Freshmen. The kids that run now have no idea why they do some of the things they do. 16 seasons ago a few girls would run in the snow and cold before basketball practice and now it's second nature for many kids to stay after school and brave the elements and train.
The boys too. They had a lot of talent, but there was twin brothers that came from a family of the hardest working runners I've ever seen. The more talented kids were forced to work hard out of pride to not just be outworked. Now, nearly all the kids put the work in. They don't know any other way.
You know Minster girls are the same. They don't know any other way.
When my oldest son started running for Taylor they only had one girl on the cross country team. Three years later they won the D2 title.
The girls have only made state three times. They finished first, second and first. That's a pretty good average.
That's unreal. Once in a lifetime group of kids I guess.When my oldest son started running for Taylor they only had one girl on the cross country team. Three years later they won the D2 title.
The girls have only made state three times. They finished first, second and first. That's a pretty good average.