I'm an NWC guy definitely not Grove guy, I get conference pride but man, I like Ohio state but I never root for xichigan (unless they play Alabama) it's just comical to me how every team ML has steamrolled this year is somehow a good team because of conf affiliation, if Grove gets hammered, guess what so did everyone else,,,,they still beat the snot out of everyone in their region,,,which is more than I can say for my team, so say Grove went southwest what would the Columbia ML score be 84-0????, Can we all agree small school football in this area is pretty good. And the MAC elevates other confrences in this area because they set the standard and we all see it every year.