College football playoffs

14Red

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Not quite the apples to apples comparision, but still close. So is anyone following college basketball very closely? No, not really. Why? Because 67 teams make the NCAA tournament. This will be what college football will look like in a few years. That big upset loss to Ohio State or Alabama in week 5 will become meaningless because the blue blood program will have a 2-3 game buffer and can still make the playoffs. The other side effect, you WILL see players sit with minor injuries because they'll hold them out and get them ready for the playoffs.
 

Spartacus1987

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Agreed. Expanding the playoffs is trash, I follow college basketball but Ohio State is so bad this year I haven't watched nearly as much as I usually do.
 

cjb5656

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Not quite the apples to apples comparision, but still close. So is anyone following college basketball very closely? No, not really. Why? Because 67 teams make the NCAA tournament. This will be what college football will look like in a few years. That big upset loss to Ohio State or Alabama in week 5 will become meaningless because the blue blood program will have a 2-3 game buffer and can still make the playoffs. The other side effect, you WILL see players sit with minor injuries because they'll hold them out and get them ready for the playoffs.
I would have expanded it to eight, to accommodate a great team that suffers an upset and teams that might start slow but finish strong. Twelve is too many and I hate the idea of byes.

Oh, and nobody cares about the college hoops regular season anymore because the product is crappy compared to the days when even the greats played three and four years. On the series about the ACC Tourney, Roy Williams…who was coaching just a couple years ago…remarked how much better and stronger college basketball was in earlier decades.
 

Auggie

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8 was always the best number but because a couple Power 5 Conferences wanted auto bids and the SEC wanted as many at large as possible they compromised at 12. That being said 12 does give us a couple cool new possibilities including home playoff games and the annual chance of a Group of 6 team pulling off the upset. Also since the $s will be so big those schools in the running for the last couple of spots will be lobbying the committee like a defense contractor on Capital Hill. Some data base companies/individuals are already developing models like KenPom to come up with various ways to help the committee sort through the bubble and determine who goes and who doesn't. I also expect strength of schedule to mean more in the coming years so hopefully OOC games get stronger and while the regular season may lose a bit on drama we should see better match ups in September.
 

14Red

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There is no doubt you are going to see home playoff games. I just feel the main thrust of college football is the week to week elimination of playoff teams. That will go out the door now. The mid major teams will still need to run the table to have any shot at going and it just gives the national programs a buffer of 2-3 losses to stay in the picture.
 

adselder09

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There is no doubt you are going to see home playoff games. I just feel the main thrust of college football is the week to week elimination of playoff teams. That will go out the door now. The mid major teams will still need to run the table to have any shot at going and it just gives the national programs a buffer of 2-3 losses to stay in the picture.
Well that's not true because the highest G5 Conference gets a bid regardless, so whoever is ranked the highest whether undefeated, 1-loss or 2-loss, teams can still get in. Now if you're talking about receiving an at-large bid, then yes. Likely undefeated, possibly 1-loss if the schedule is really strong with impressive wins, as well as a strong conference that year, but even then it would be a big stretch.

Also there will RARELY be teams with 3-losses that get in, unless as Auggie said above the non-conference schedule beefs up in September and we get a 3-loss Conference Champ like Utah or Kansas St.
 

14Red

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Well that's not true because the highest G5 Conference gets a bid regardless, so whoever is ranked the highest whether undefeated, 1-loss or 2-loss, teams can still get in. Now if you're talking about receiving an at-large bid, then yes. Likely undefeated, possibly 1-loss if the schedule is really strong with impressive wins, as well as a strong conference that year, but even then it would be a big stretch.

Also there will RARELY be teams with 3-losses that get in, unless as Auggie said above the non-conference schedule beefs up in September and we get a 3-loss Conference Champ like Utah or Kansas St.
If LSU won the SEC championship game this season, they would had made the 4 team playoff with 3 losses!
 

adselder09

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If LSU won the SEC championship game this season, they would had made the 4 team playoff with 3 losses!
No they wouldn't have, not after losing to Texas A&M in Week 14. They wouldn't have jumped from #9 into the top #4.

Regardless, they lost and didn't even make a NY6 game, nor would they have qualified for the 12-team Playoff after being ranked #17 in the Final CFP Rankings.

You actually could have gone with two I mentioned, in Utah AND Kansas State as both would have made the Playoff as Conference Champions and at least one of them would have received a BYE in the new format as well for being the 4th highest ranked Conference Champion.

Like I said though, will be rare to see a 3-loss team and they'll need to have some strong wins to offset those losses.
 

AEW Champion

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I just feel the main thrust of college football is the week to week elimination of playoff teams. That will go out the door now.
Everyone’s still going to be gunning for conference titles, a potential first-round bye, and as favorable seeding as possible, plus just getting into the tournament itself. Plus beating rivals.

There’s still going to be plenty on the line every week.

People still watch the NFL in massive numbers every week even though there’s rarely any win-or-go-home regular season games.

It’s true, it’s true. Trust me …
 

SWGA Fan

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Not quite the apples to apples comparision, but still close. So is anyone following college basketball very closely? No, not really. Why? Because 67 teams make the NCAA tournament. This will be what college football will look like in a few years. That big upset loss to Ohio State or Alabama in week 5 will become meaningless because the blue blood program will have a 2-3 game buffer and can still make the playoffs. The other side effect, you WILL see players sit with minor injuries because they'll hold them out and get them ready for the playoffs.
SOOO, you think that football will encompass five, possibly SIX playoff rounds. And THEN, the three or four nonconference games being non nonexistent in the future. For those who don't realize this, those games serve to help fund lesser teams in their overall school program. That million buckaroos that those schools get to play the role of cannon fodder, would be GONE with the wind!
 
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SWGA Fan

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Everyone’s still going to be gunning for conference titles, a potential first-round bye, and as favorable seeding as possible, plus just getting into the tournament itself. Plus beating rivals.

There’s still going to be plenty on the line every week.

People still watch the NFL in massive numbers every week even though there’s rarely any win-or-go-home regular season games.

It’s true, it’s true. Trust me …
IF we go to eight, the cherry on top with having twelve, and a first round bye, ala the NFL, will go by the wayside. Other than homefield advantage for ONE round, would be the only benefit for being one of the previous top four.
 

SWGA Fan

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Everyone’s still going to be gunning for conference titles, a potential first-round bye, and as favorable seeding as possible, plus just getting into the tournament itself. Plus beating rivals.

There’s still going to be plenty on the line every week.

People still watch the NFL in massive numbers every week even though there’s rarely any win-or-go-home regular season games.

It’s true, it’s true. Trust me …
I've been to a number of NFL games in various venues, throughout my life. And those people are just DIFFERENT. Few if any are your typical college fan. It's more like fans watching roller derby than a passionate football fan, per se'.
 
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