CHL 2024/2025 preview/season thread

MyNameIsDoug? said:
It's gonna be a really tough test for Taylor. If Alter's identity is tough defense, I'm not sure Taylor's faced a tough defense all year. Maybe Lawrenceburg? But that was week 2. If Alter's DBs are that good, I'm doubling McFarland all night and making anyone else beat you through the air given that he's accounted for 45% of their receiving yards this year. Stack the box from time to time to slow down the run and continue daring someone else to beat you. For how explosive Taylor has been the last few weeks, I think this could be a game where the winning team scores 21 or less
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With Alter averaging 300+ yards on the ground the past few weeks Im interested to see if Taylor can bend and not break at the line of scrimmage.
 
Birdfan said:
With Alter averaging 300+ yards on the ground the past few weeks Im interested to see if Taylor can bend and not break at the line of scrimmage.
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Taylor was in the same boat vs VV

VV had 343 rushing yds vs New richmond and 371 rushing yds vs Waynesville

Taylor held VV to 90 rushing yds.

Taylors D is much improved this year and have been playing some great football. Today will be an Epic matchup and should be alot of fun!
 
MyNameIsDoug? said:
It's gonna be a really tough test for Taylor. If Alter's identity is tough defense, I'm not sure Taylor's faced a tough defense all year. Maybe Lawrenceburg? But that was week 2. If Alter's DBs are that good, I'm doubling McFarland all night and making anyone else beat you through the air given that he's accounted for 45% of their receiving yards this year. Stack the box from time to time to slow down the run and continue daring someone else to beat you. For how explosive Taylor has been the last few weeks, I think this could be a game where the winning team scores 21 or less.
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no doubt Alter is going to try to make someone else beat them.

I think you will see McFarland used in some wild cat as they have used him some in that role already...

You may even see some Ferguson at QB , Kantz lined up as a full back.

They have lots of athletes they can move around plus a 6'6" kid at TE
 
93 red ls said:
Taylor was in the same boat vs VV

VV had 343 rushing yds vs New richmond and 371 rushing yds vs Waynesville

Taylor held VV to 90 rushing yds.

Taylors D is much improved this year and have been playing some great football. Today will be an Epic matchup and should be alot of fun!
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Does Alter run the triple option or something along those lines? I'm assuming so since they threw the ball 4 times last week lol has Taylor seen an offense like that? Could be tough on them and really wear them down. Missing Massie on the DL doesn't help either. I see Alter winning, but I'm definitely intrigued by the matchup!
 
MyNameIsDoug? said:
Does Alter run the triple option or something along those lines? I'm assuming so since they threw the ball 4 times last week lol has Taylor seen an offense like that? Could be tough on them and really wear them down. Missing Massie on the DL doesn't help either. I see Alter winning, but I'm definitely intrigued by the matchup!
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Wishbone most of the time.

I Wouldn't be surprised to see Massie play DL tonight
 
MyNameIsDoug? said:
I've heard he's being restricted to OL, but maybe that changes. I would hope his health wouldn't come after winning
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from what I heard whatever "damage" was done is already done so that was going to need to be fixed at the end of the season regardless.

I believe he planned to switch over from Wrestling and back to basketball. IMO I would have stayed with wrestling as its the best sport that's going to keep him in the best shape, help hand/eye, balance , core strength ect ect ect..... but to each their own
 
93 red ls said:
from what I heard whatever "damage" was done is already done so that was going to need to be fixed at the end of the season regardless.

I believe he planned to switch over from Wrestling and back to basketball. IMO I would have stayed with wrestling as its the best sport that's going to keep him in the best shape, help hand/eye, balance , core strength ect ect ect..... but to each their own
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Interesting. Hope it's not too serious, but I guess it must not be if he's still out there playing. No way he'd still be playing on a torn ACL or something like that
 
Watched some of the game online. I was impressed with Taylor in the first half. Thing is you have to be able to run the ball at least a little bit. I’m curious what their offensive totals were for the game. Only thing working was an occasional throw it long. No.1 was not a factor and did Alter have 10 sacks? Seemed like it. On the upside Taylor seemed to be young and will be one of the favorites in the CHL in 2025.

Alter fans what happened to FF the freshmen QB? Just not getting it done? I’d guess they will have to pass to keep it honest against Taft next week. What happened in the first meeting that allowed Taft to score 30+?
 
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robertbob9876 said:
5 picks for IH? With the best RB in the region? 5 picks?
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5 picks us a little deceiving. One was the last play of the game, on a 4th and long. One was the last play of the half, 4th and goal from around the 4 and another was on a 4th and long. All three of those the best bet is to put the ball up and take a chance.

The passing game was key to the win over Massie. Tafts defensive line was big and physical, you had to put the ball up to have a chance.
 
Looks to me like Glenville's gonna be pickin' up another trophy--and not really sweatin' to do it...

Meanwhile, why are Cincinnati area Division 3-7 teams SOOOOO non-competitive... it's embarrassing how badly they do in the playoffs (other than the odd year when Wyo represents well)-- if they even get far enough to play a good team... Cincy teams in 4, 6, and 7 just got demolished this week-- and I don't think Cincy even had a team representing in 3 and 5...
 
FBfan97 said:
5 picks us a little deceiving. One was the last play of the game, on a 4th and long. One was the last play of the half, 4th and goal from around the 4 and another was on a 4th and long. All three of those the best bet is to put the ball up and take a chance.

The passing game was key to the win over Massie. Tafts defensive line was big and physical, you had to put the ball up to have a chance.
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Sounds like the QB's dad... no excuse for 5 picks. Give me a break. Zero picks is the right number. Pick six and another pick going into the ends zone cost two TDs. That's the game right there.
 
FBfan97 said:
5 picks us a little deceiving. One was the last play of the game, on a 4th and long. One was the last play of the half, 4th and goal from around the 4 and another was on a 4th and long. All three of those the best bet is to put the ball up and take a chance.

The passing game was key to the win over Massie. Tafts defensive line was big and physical, you had to put the ball up to have a chance.
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Passing game was not the key to the win. You must be the QBs dad.

The D-line and LB play was. Again, give me a break. The passing game cost IH wins versus Taylor and Wyoming. QB passing stats in the year of 6 TDs and 17 INTs. Minus 17 on turnovers just on that. IH Is playing Alter for state semis if they control the ball.
 
robertbob9876 said:
Passing game was not the key to the win. You must be the QBs dad.

The D-line and LB play was. Again, give me a break. The passing game cost IH wins versus Taylor and Wyoming. QB passing stats in the year of 6 TDs and 17 INTs. Minus 17 on turnovers just on that. IH Is playing Alter for state semis if they control the ball.
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Against Massie QB was 18/27 for 214. Massie held Daniel to 109 on 23 carries. Running is key to the offense, but the pass has to loosen the defense up and there were several throws on 3rd down that extended drives.

In a 13-16 game, obviously defense was key. Coach had a great game plan on defense stacking the box and daring Massie to throw, for some reason Massie refused to go away from the run. MVP of the game is probably the kicker who went 3/4.
 
robertbob9876 said:
Sounds like the QB's dad... no excuse for 5 picks. Give me a break. Zero picks is the right number. Pick six and another pick going into the ends zone cost two TDs. That's the game right there.
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Obviously 5 interceptions under any circumstances doesn't lead to a win. Your comment "5 picks for IH? With the best RB in the region? 5 picks?" Implies they should have relied on the running game. 24 rushes for 81 yards from Devlin, Taft was shutting down the run game so they had to throw.

IH had several opportunities, the end of the first half of they punch it in momentum shifts, but they came up short.

This playoff run came up short, but it has made me a believer in what Rody is doing. After 2 losses to end regular season it would have been easy to fold in the playoffs, but this team won 2 rounds in the playoffs. It certainly appears that there are systems in place that can produce a winning program, now they just have to keep the talent at IH instead of leaving for St X or Moeller.
 
4GX said:
Looks to me like Glenville's gonna be pickin' up another trophy--and not really sweatin' to do it...

Meanwhile, why are Cincinnati area Division 3-7 teams SOOOOO non-competitive... it's embarrassing how badly they do in the playoffs (other than the odd year when Wyo represents well)-- if they even get far enough to play a good team... Cincy teams in 4, 6, and 7 just got demolished this week-- and I don't think Cincy even had a team representing in 3 and 5...
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Pretty simple… if a few exceptional players are headed for one of those small schools they get rerouted to St. X, Elder, Moeller, LaSalle, etc., etc., etc., There are no big time private schools to siphon off the talent out in the farmland.
 
FBfan97 said:
Obviously 5 interceptions under any circumstances doesn't lead to a win. Your comment "5 picks for IH? With the best RB in the region? 5 picks?" Implies they should have relied on the running game. 24 rushes for 81 yards from Devlin, Taft was shutting down the run game so they had to throw.

IH had several opportunities, the end of the first half of they punch it in momentum shifts, but they came up short.

This playoff run came up short, but it has made me a believer in what Rody is doing. After 2 losses to end regular season it would have been easy to fold in the playoffs, but this team won 2 rounds in the playoffs. It certainly appears that there are systems in place that can produce a winning program, now they just have to keep the talent at IH instead of leaving for St X or Moeller.
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Taft is WAY bigger up front than what people realize! In years past Taft had big skills guys and smaller lines..... this team has 6'7" 270 , 6'3" 340 , 6'2" 330 up front they are big!
 
yj_runfan said:
Pretty simple… if a few exceptional players are headed for one of those small schools they get rerouted to St. X, Elder, Moeller, LaSalle, etc., etc., etc., There are no big time private schools to siphon off the talent out in the farmland.
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Well-- that makes sense... if Coldwater and Marion don't lose any players to Delphos St. John's, perhaps that explains it... in previous decades of the Ohio state playoffs, DSJ was one of the dominant teams in the small school division (along with Versailles)... then, gradually, first Coldwater and then Marion emerged as even more dominant-- and have supplanted DSJ (which still fields some very good teams-- DSJ is still alive in the playoffs this year) and Versailles as the best teams in that part of the state (and thus the whole state, for the smaller divisions)...

Wonder what changed-- how/why Coldwater and Marion (nowadays-- and for 25+ years) don't lose any players to DSJ, and win state championships quite often (basically yearly, in Marion's case)...it feels like something changed (coaching maybe?)-- looking at the map, it doesn't look like DSJ is quite close enough to those schools (they're all in the same MAC league) to sometimes pull players from the Marion and Coldwater districts-- but I don't know that for a fact... I can't think of another Catholic/private school that would be close enough to be in the running to attract players from the football-focused rural hotbeds in Coldwater, Marion, Minster, Anna, New Bremen, Versailles, Fort Loramie, St. Henry, etc...
 
4GX said:
Well-- that makes sense... if Coldwater and Marion don't lose any players to Delphos St. John's, perhaps that explains it... in previous decades of the Ohio state playoffs, DSJ was one of the dominant teams in the small school division (along with Versailles)... then, gradually, first Coldwater and then Marion emerged as even more dominant-- and have supplanted DSJ (which still fields some very good teams-- DSJ is still alive in the playoffs this year) and Versailles as the best teams in that part of the state (and thus the whole state, for the smaller divisions)...

Wonder what changed-- how/why Coldwater and Marion (nowadays-- and for 25+ years) don't lose any players to DSJ, and win state championships quite often (basically yearly, in Marion's case)...it feels like something changed (coaching maybe?)-- looking at the map, it doesn't look like DSJ is quite close enough to those schools (they're all in the same MAC league) to sometimes pull players from the Marion and Coldwater districts-- but I don't know that for a fact... I can't think of another Catholic/private school that would be close enough to be in the running to attract players from the football-focused rural hotbeds in Coldwater, Marion, Minster, Anna, New Bremen, Versailles, Fort Loramie, St. Henry, etc...
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Good players aren’t going to be any more visible at DSJ than they would at any of those other schools in the same conference. Good players heading for small Cincy schools divert to the big privates where they will get much more exposure.
 
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