Are you fully vaccinated? Why or why not?

SayMyName

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I can't find where they consulted oxazz on the findings of this study....

The study reviewed 78 randomized control trials—experiments that have long been considered "the gold standard" for medicine—which assessed the effectiveness of face masks against flu, COVID-19, and similar illnesses. It found that wearing masks "probably makes little or no difference" for the general public, no matter what kind of mask is used. Even N95 masks, considered the most effective at filtering airborne particles, showed no clear benefit for health care workers.

The study was published on January 30 by the Cochrane Library, a world-renowned medical database that is famous for its high-quality evidence reviews. It comes as a battering ram to the recommendations of the U.S. public health establishment, which urged children as young as two to wear masks throughout the pandemic.

"This amounts to the scientific nail in the coffin for mask mandates," said Kristen Walsh, a clinical professor of pediatrics in Morristown, New Jersey. "I just can't wrap my mind around the fact that some schools are still actively forcing children to wear masks, much less children who need to see faces to learn."

As of this writing, no major media outlets have covered the Cochrane review. It's a sharp contrast to the reception of other, more pro-mask studies, which were the subject of glowing write-ups in the New York Times, the Atlantic, and the Washington Post.
 

winbypin

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I can't find where they consulted oxazz on the findings of this study....

The study reviewed 78 randomized control trials—experiments that have long been considered "the gold standard" for medicine—which assessed the effectiveness of face masks against flu, COVID-19, and similar illnesses. It found that wearing masks "probably makes little or no difference" for the general public, no matter what kind of mask is used. Even N95 masks, considered the most effective at filtering airborne particles, showed no clear benefit for health care workers.

The study was published on January 30 by the Cochrane Library, a world-renowned medical database that is famous for its high-quality evidence reviews. It comes as a battering ram to the recommendations of the U.S. public health establishment, which urged children as young as two to wear masks throughout the pandemic.

"This amounts to the scientific nail in the coffin for mask mandates," said Kristen Walsh, a clinical professor of pediatrics in Morristown, New Jersey. "I just can't wrap my mind around the fact that some schools are still actively forcing children to wear masks, much less children who need to see faces to learn."

As of this writing, no major media outlets have covered the Cochrane review. It's a sharp contrast to the reception of other, more pro-mask studies, which were the subject of glowing write-ups in the New York Times, the Atlantic, and the Washington Post.
In before Ox can make fun of "freebeacon.com".
 

lotr10

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Last month, three scientists pointed out flu shots barely work and couldn’t be approved based on the standards used for vaccines like measles:

“After more than 60 years of experience with influenza vaccines, very little improvement in vaccine prevention of infection has been noted… our best approved influenza vaccines would be inadequate for licensure for most other vaccine-preventable diseases.” [emphasis added]

True. Several rigorous papers have proven that flu shots are placebos masquerading as public policy.

But the same scientists then compared our beloved and groundbreaking Covid vaccines to those pointless flu jabs:

As variant SARS-CoV-2 strains have emerged, deficiencies in these [Covid] vaccines reminiscent of influenza vaccines have become apparent.

Just who are these vicious anti-vax rebels?

Three researchers at the National Institutes for Health. Including one whose name may ring a bell: the now-retired Dr. Anthony S. Fauci.


Here's the actual paper:

 

Gulliotine

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SayMyName

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Couldn't be any better than getting input from the guy who constantly has the "I wear because I care guy" on his mind.
It most definitely is....although getting input from the guy still wearing the mask and why is important. Especially after it was discovered they did nothing....yet the "I care" guy was certain they did.
 

LCL

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Obviously, the vaccine is not a cure all. Some of those who got it still found theirselves getting the virus afterward. It is hard to believe vaccines were createdly that quickly. I don't know how many vaccines there are or suggested to take. Its not a %100 cure all, just as the cold vaccine. Do I think big pharmacutical companies were cut a big check for this? Yes. Do I think that we should have the freedom to decide if we want it? Yes.

I do hope that in the future we can depend on some sort of prevention in the form of a vaccine, just as we do a cold. I do not think that we should be living in a country right now that forces us to wear masks like the one that has turned into a growth on Bernie Sanders face. However, being required to wear one at the doctor's office makes sense to me. It is a fluid situation still.

At the very beginning of the pandemic a neighbor of mine had his wife and son living upstairs in his house, while his in-laws lived in the basement. He gave his in-laws a ride to the doctor and his son went with him. Long story short, he and his in-laws cotracted Covid. One in-law showed symptons and was taken to the hospital because of his age. The other in-law was asymptomatuc and quarantined herself in the basement. The son who traveled for the doctor appointment never contracted and his mom never contracted it when he came home. However, the father, who gave the ride, contracted it and passed away. All had the first vaccine, except for the husband/father. If ever there was a case that proved how effective/ineffective the first vaccine was it was this household. Since then, all have had the second and the son still contracted it. Its a fluid situation, and one that we can hope to find a more effective resolution to. Until then, freedom to get the vaccine is a justifiable way of thinking. Myself, Ive had both and still contracted it.
 

SayMyName

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Complaining about the mask mandates you endured is the epitome of manliness after all.
I'm not complaining as I lived my life and didn't need to virtue signal. Wearing a face diaper because you're told to do so and to show "you care" is the epitome of manliness, no doubt. Your virtue signaling is noted though.
 
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oxat622

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I'm not complaining as I lived my life and didn't need to virtue signal. Wearing a face diaper because you're told to do so and to show "you care" is the epitome of manliness, no doubt. Your virtue signaling is noted though.
Not complaining? Why is this even on your mind if you're "living your life"? .Where are you even seeing mask mandates any more aside from a medical facility?
 

SayMyName

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Not complaining? Why is this even on your mind if you're "living your life"? .Where are you even seeing mask mandates any more aside from a medical facility?
Where did I say any of that....I'm talking about you and your virtue signaling....keep up.
 

I enjoy wrestling

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Obviously, the vaccine is not a cure all. Some of those who got it still found theirselves getting the virus afterward. It is hard to believe vaccines were createdly that quickly. I don't know how many vaccines there are or suggested to take. Its not a %100 cure all, just as the cold vaccine. Do I think big pharmacutical companies were cut a big check for this? Yes. Do I think that we should have the freedom to decide if we want it? Yes.

I do hope that in the future we can depend on some sort of prevention in the form of a vaccine, just as we do a cold. I do not think that we should be living in a country right now that forces us to wear masks like the one that has turned into a growth on Bernie Sanders face. However, being required to wear one at the doctor's office makes sense to me. It is a fluid situation still.

At the very beginning of the pandemic a neighbor of mine had his wife and son living upstairs in his house, while his in-laws lived in the basement. He gave his in-laws a ride to the doctor and his son went with him. Long story short, he and his in-laws cotracted Covid. One in-law showed symptons and was taken to the hospital because of his age. The other in-law was asymptomatuc and quarantined herself in the basement. The son who traveled for the doctor appointment never contracted and his mom never contracted it when he came home. However, the father, who gave the ride, contracted it and passed away. All had the first vaccine, except for the husband/father. If ever there was a case that proved how effective/ineffective the first vaccine was it was this household. Since then, all have had the second and the son still contracted it. Its a fluid situation, and one that we can hope to find a more effective resolution to. Until then, freedom to get the vaccine is a justifiable way of thinking. Myself, Ive had both and still contracted it.
Age,weight and health background? Exercise? Obesity? Diabetes? Just wondering
 
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