MyNameIsDoug?
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So I ask questions about 3 very rational subjects and you jump to beastiality? Just give me your thoughts on the question I actually asked instead of deflecting to something stupid.
Anti Church media...at it again
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my2sense
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My thoughts are secondary to what God says about those things. You should open a Bible and check it out!
my2sense
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That's exactly what it means. Calling yourself a Christian means practically nothing. Choosing "Christian" on a demographic survey doesn't make you one either. Living in America doesn't make you one either. Going to church doesn't make you a Christian anymore than sitting in your garage makes you a Buick.
MyNameIsDoug?
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I wanna know what conclusions you've come to on pre-marital sex and homosexuality based on your biblical studies or what you perceive scripture on those topics to mean.
MyNameIsDoug?
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It is anything but clear. I grew up Catholic, I can look things up; I know what it says and it's anything but clear. And if it does condemn pre-marital sex, homosexuality, tattoos, jewelry, buying land/a house...well, then it's just idiotic
ProV1
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OK. According the the my2sense definition of Christian, let me know what is acceptable.
my2sense
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Your first two sentences speak volumes. First of all I have no idea what Bible you are reading. I know there's a Catholic Bible that has extra books in it. I also know that papal writings are regarded as having the same authority as the Bible. Maybe that's where your confusion lies ?
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my2sense
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The Bible defines what a Christian is, does and believes. Check it out.
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From the NYT: With one hand elite liberalism seeks to keep Christianity at arm’s length, to reject any specifically Christian identity for the society it aims to rule — but with the other it treats Christianity as something that really exists only in relationship to its own secularized humanitarianism, either as a tamed and therefore useful chaplaincy or as an embarrassing, in-need-of-correction uncle.
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my2sense
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https://medium.com/@omegamenkir/the-tv-christian-out-of-whack-79096ba524cc
A group that often gets exaggerated and stereotyped is that of modern Christians, specifically females. In movies and television shows, they are portrayed as either extremely evangelical and judgmental of all who don’t live by the same rules, or they are portrayed as naïve and silly, with all the subtleties of modern life flying right over their heads. They are also portrayed sometimes as hypocrites, so fervent in the aspects of their faith that benefit their goals that they conveniently forget their actions which break the rules of Christianity.
A group that often gets exaggerated and stereotyped is that of modern Christians, specifically females. In movies and television shows, they are portrayed as either extremely evangelical and judgmental of all who don’t live by the same rules, or they are portrayed as naïve and silly, with all the subtleties of modern life flying right over their heads. They are also portrayed sometimes as hypocrites, so fervent in the aspects of their faith that benefit their goals that they conveniently forget their actions which break the rules of Christianity.
ProV1
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If you believe in Christ you are a Christian. Over half the country falls into this category. Nobody cares about purity tests or grades. Keep them to yourself.
my2sense
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If you don't live it, you don't believe it.
ProV1
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Keep it to yourself. Nobody cares.
my2sense
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The exact opposite of what Jesus tells His believers to do.
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Happygoluckky
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Of course trump isn't going to church...
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ProV1
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Not only does he not go to church, but you would be hard pressed to find a more sacrilegious person on earth.
If you believe in Christ, you will follow Christ. There is the passage in John "I am the way ........no one comes to the Father but through me".
Following Christ means living for him , giving up my ways.
By that definition or "test" it seems there is likely a pretty narrow following, and few are finding it.
But there are many who are taking the broad path that leads, uh elsewhere, putting it nicely.
One interesting passage is Jesus warning of a time after life when many who thought they were living for him were not. They even claimed to have done many things in his name, but he tells them to get out of heaven ( the good place) for "I never knew you".
I dont think believing Jesus existed is the same as believing in him for salvation.
Last, "to him that knows to do good and does not do it, it is sin." To be clear, I know I dont do at times what a Christian is expected to do, and I know better. Not perfect, just forgiven as the saying goes.
Hey, I miss church.
Happygoluckky
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Trump can't even work up the energy to do a fake photo op at a church. He has no interest in church. He just knows it is a good way to manipulate his BASE.
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my2sense
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I remember watching Bill Clinton walk out of church, clutching his Bible in one hand and holding Hilary's hand in the other. That seems more disingenuous than Trump's obvious ploy.
How many people are you hugging at Wal-Mart or Menards vs a church service, wedding, or funeral?
Happygoluckky
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After watching cable news and tweeting like a madman he is off to his course on the taxpayers dime. (not complaining as it is better than watching Cable TV all day) Melania in NY with her boyfriend, parents and Baron.
Sounds like he is panicking and setting the voter fraud narrative to explain his loss to Biden.
Sounds like he is panicking and setting the voter fraud narrative to explain his loss to Biden.
y2h
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She has the right to choose to have sex ?
y2h
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Irony...man complaining about the media demeaning Christians then demeans a Christian belief system.Your first two sentences speak volumes. First of all I have no idea what Bible you are reading. I know there's a Catholic Bible that has extra books in it. I also know that papal writings are regarded as having the same authority as the Bible. Maybe that's where your confusion lies ?
Happygoluckky
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