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Cubsandtigers said:
I have zero interest in a Ventress led show. Very much looking forward to Andor S2 though.

It’s a shame the first two episodes of S1 were so horribly boring that people tuned out on the show.
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Oh see, I’d love to see a live action Dark Disciple adaptation, especially with Quinlan Voss being teased in Obi-Wan.


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They're going to push the nightsisters. It just is. They must have picked up a genre fan-base star wars didn't already have. They're connected now to Ahsoka. Clumsily I thought. Ventress was a good character. Part of those bad guys that occasionally ally with good guys when goals match.
 
Irwin20 said:
Believe it or not I have never seen any movie, special, or spin off program involving Star Wars.
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and you broke your virginity replaying to a Yappi thread about Star Wars! ;)

I can believe. I'm close on Walking Dead. Maybe made half the first ep. Seinfield? Know all the quotes but maybe seen only a couple episodes.
 
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The first three episodes of Andor season two were very good. The initial episodes are also being revived well by fans which is a switch from recent outings.

The Deidra/Cyril relationship is delightfully odd in a very controlling way.
 
lotr10 said:
Interesting take on how this amazing box office tells folks a lot about the Disney Star Wars series and movies:

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Do us a favor and just stop Lottie. You’re perpetually unhappy with the franchise and its direction and your griping just flat out gets old.

Definitely don’t watch Andor either. You won’t like it even a little bit with its politics and very gray takes on morality in a rebellion.
 
Cubsandtigers said:
Do us a favor and just stop Lottie. You’re perpetually unhappy with the franchise and its direction and your griping just flat out gets old.

Definitely don’t watch Andor either. You won’t like it even a little bit with its politics and very gray takes on morality in a rebellion.
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Do me a favor and get your posters right Cubby. I think you're mistaking me for Sparticus1987. I rarely post here.

For the record I was replying to Bob22 who correctly pointed out how amazing the re-release box office for Revenge of the Sith was and I had just watched the video expressing a similar opinion so I linked it.

As for the video the guy who makes them is a hoot and IMO he is truth telling. I'm not the only Star Wars fan, yes I was a huge fan and caught the original movie on opening night in 1977 when it entered wide release, to think that what Disney has done to the franchise is a creative & economic crime. But hey to each their own.
 
lotr10 said:
Do me a favor and get your posters right Cubby. I think you're mistaking me for Sparticus1987. I rarely post here.

For the record I was replying to Bob22 who correctly pointed out how amazing the re-release box office for Revenge of the Sith was and I had just watched the video expressing a similar opinion so I linked it.

As for the video the guy who makes them is a hoot and IMO he is truth telling. I'm not the only Star Wars fan, yes I was a huge fan and caught the original movie on opening night in 1977 when it entered wide release, to think that what Disney has done to the franchise is a creative & economic crime. But hey to each their own.
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Which one's are D's fault?

The ones supposedly taking place after the original three (not the prequels) were hot garbage. JMHO. They have made money so I'm not getting the "econmic crime" take on it?
 
eastisbest said:
Which one's are D's fault?

The ones supposedly taking place after the original three (not the prequels) were hot garbage. JMHO. They have made money so I'm not getting the "econmic crime" take on it?
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IMO all the Star Wars movies after A new Hope, Empire Strikes Back & Rogue One are at best average and most are garbage. So we pretty much agree here.

Yes they have made money but IMO we're dealing with lost opportunities here. They could have made a lot more money if they avoided the woke garbage, paid attention to pleasing the fan base and most importantly turned out much better product.

Where Disney has messed up big time is in the TV shows where they have spent enormous sums of money to produce mostly mediocre to bad TV shows. Here's a detailed take on how profitable Star Wars has been for Disney.

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Has Disney Made Any Actual Profit With Star Wars Since 2012? - Jedi Temple Archives

Anyone familar with “Betteridges’ Law of Headlines” will immediately know the answer to the question… so spoiler: no. They haven’t. Sure, they made money with Star Wars, quite a bit, but they paid $4.05 billion for Lucasfilm in 2012, which … Continue reading →
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In a best case scenario you could say that MAYBE Disney has barely broken even with Star Wars after 12 years all costs considered, but of course Lucasfilm is not just Star Wars….......

This in turn means that after 12 long years Disney, with only little uncertainty, has not recouped the costs of buying Lucasfilm with Star Wars and certainly not with all Lucasfilm projects combined. The movies themselves made money, the games made really good money (actually, Disney made more money with the games than the movies!), merchandise was sold and Disney has extortionate royalty rates, but this is all offset by the enormous Disney+ money sinkhole, the immense production costs for the theme parks, the movies and of course the money spent on buying Lucasfilm in the first place.
 
lotr10 said:
IMO all the Star Wars movies after A new Hope, Empire Strikes Back & Rogue One are at best average and most are garbage. So we pretty much agree here.

Yes they have made money but IMO we're dealing with lost opportunities here. They could have made a lot more money if they avoided the woke garbage, paid attention to pleasing the fan base and most importantly turned out much better product.
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Which parts are considered "woke garbage?" Seems mostly the same to me. At least there's no Jar Jar.

For me, it's been mostly a matter of taste. Can't stand that actor with the huge nose. He's whiny in everything. Ray story was way too stupid because how they ended it. Die Palpatine DIE already.

I think they make the same error any franchise does. They may make new fans but they move on old fans when they accidently create a minor character that fans take to, then try to write to the fans (the vocal ones anyway) instead of the story by blowing up a character whose charm was their incidental role but they had no natural gravitas to hold the show on their own. Yet the franchise tries to cash in by writing them a show, without writing shows for the old fans.
 
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I disliked the last trilogy produced. It was clunky and didn't feel like a Star Wars movie. I've enjoyed The Mandalorian, Andor, Ahsoka, The Bad Batch, and Skeleton Crew. I totally hated The Acolyte. The Acolyte sought obviously to push political agendas, but it also compromised the entire canon of all Stars Wars movies and shows.
 
LCL said:
I disliked the last trilogy produced. It was clunky and didn't feel like a Star Wars movie. I've enjoyed The Mandalorian, Andor, Ahsoka, The Bad Batch, and Skeleton Crew. I totally hated The Acolyte. The Acolyte sought obviously to push political agendas, but it also compromised the entire canon of all Stars Wars movies and shows.
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As far as story or implementation, my tastes haven't been far from yours except maybe the level of "enjoy" and Skeleton Crew, I found to be hot garbage. Don't care for the lead so a bit of a non-starter. It seemed a sad attempt at a Star Wars version of Star Trek Prodigy, with bad acting. Might have worked for me as an animation.

The whole thing has been political agenda of some sort from day one. Ideas come from somewhere. I guess when those agenda's no longer agree with the fan, it's "woke" or some other attempt at derogatory. 🤷

But what would be your specific objections? These accusations come to me as sheepwork, a fav pod-caster/message board said it so jump on board. Specifically, what political agenda or example of "woke?" No googling. ;)

MY bigger issue would be celebrity casting. Celebrity CHARACTER, I'm usually ok with. Particularly when it's easter egg, maybe someone just walking by.
 
eastisbest said:
But what would be your specific objections? These accusations come to me as sheepwork, a fav pod-caster/message board said it so jump on board. Specifically, what political agenda or example of "woke?" No googling. ;)
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I very much enjoyed The Clone Wars animation, so I enjoyed The Bad Batch. I like the Space-Western concept delivered by The Madalorian. There were concepts and characters that were true to canon, if you view The Clone Wars Series as a part of it. We even got a live action version of Cad Bane.

If you also view Rebels as canon, then Ahsoka did a great job to tie into that, and try to find resolve to that story. I found Skeleton Crew enjoyable. It did a good job as a stand alone story, and I found it creative how their home planet was hidden as a bank, and there was a reference to Order 66 in it.

The main argument/problem I have with The Acolyte is that it totally compromises all of the canon. I don't mind the diverse casting, but when the director makes it one of her objectives to make white people cry, then I shy away from taking it serious. I still watched it, but my takeaway was that if this was canon, the Episode 1 is all wrong because the timeline was messed with. I refuse to use the word "woke" it just sounds ignorant to me.
 
LCL said:
I very much enjoyed The Clone Wars animation, so I enjoyed The Bad Batch. I like the Space-Western concept delivered by The Madalorian. There were concepts and characters that were true to canon, if you view The Clone Wars Series as a part of it. We even got a live action version of Cad Bane.

If you also view Rebels as canon, then Ahsoka did a great job to tie into that, and try to find resolve to that story. I found Skeleton Crew enjoyable. It did a good job as a stand alone story, and I found it creative how their home planet was hidden as a bank, and there was a reference to Order 66 in it.

The main argument/problem I have with The Acolyte is that it totally compromises all of the canon. I don't mind the diverse casting, but when the director makes it one of her objectives to make white people cry, then I shy away from taking it serious. I still watched it, but my takeaway was that if this was canon, the Episode 1 is all wrong because the timeline was messed with. I refuse to use the word "woke" it just sounds ignorant to me.
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I'm not feeling any great temptation to watch Acolyte. I really fought to not like Bad Batch and remarked on it here. Didn't really have anything to do with the original movies and the idea of superheroe clones...seemed much too much invention in order to compete with other franchises. But the characters and story arc were too good.
 
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