The administration at SCC does not know anythIng about an offer from the TRC. If an offer would come they would have to listen but they are happy in the OH C.
2025 Three Rivers Conference.
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footballsalads43
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If Bethel leaving the Three Rivers Conference was something that came out 4-5 months ago I think Dayton Christian probably would’ve joined the Three Rivers instead of the SWBL. Better competitive fit IMO
As for current Three River fits.. Springfield CC is the first one that comes to mind. Maybe some of the smaller SWBL schools could be interested as well? Don’t really know those schools that well to say so..
As for current Three River fits.. Springfield CC is the first one that comes to mind. Maybe some of the smaller SWBL schools could be interested as well? Don’t really know those schools that well to say so..
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Gamma Gobbler
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Still scratching my head over the DC move to the SWBL. Then again, I am only looking at it from a football perspective.
BucksFan937
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Yeah, I get that about football, but I believe they are a good fit in all other sports. It was also a move to keep the schools on the smaller side happy.
Did you see where they are pouring money into facilities? That says they believe that they think athletics can help them grow numbers into the SWBL range beyond the TRC.
Gamma Gobbler
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Isn't that back arsewards? DC is relying on their football, sports program to grown them.? IMO, the dioceses have the cash and where with all to do that now but SCC struggles and have struggled with numbers over the past several years. Granted the cash cows are different in DC vs. SCC but what does DC have in the pocket that SCC does not? I would think SCC has a deeper grab in the dioceses than DC has in their non-denominational fund.
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Baseballfan20
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If you build it, they will come...................
Wish Bethel would of made this decision 5 years ago and the TRC wouldnt of been a conference anyways..........
Covington should of actually stayed in the CCC, Miller and Cates had things rolling before so they thought it was a good thing but obviously they did not have the ponies in the stable to continue that success.
Add Shawnee to replace Bethel and you now have the league originals (Wayne Trace & Darke) plus Cov. CCC stays intact!!
East is the odd man out in this one but they have been league hoping pretty much since 2000. Crazy to think a school with so much success would have trouble finding a home.
BucksFan937
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I did see that and hopefully that can help them grow the program. There is no good argument with DC and how their football will go in the SWBL, it will be rough for sure. They should be competitive in other sports and geographically it's not a bad fit. Had DC had an opportunity to join the TRC prior, I believe they would have strongly considered that, and it could have worked.
Gamma Gobbler
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Considering Bethel going into the CBC, is it too late for DC to call no joy on the SWBL and look to the TRC as a host conference? Honestly, it would not surprise me considering the upended conference alignments now.
BucksFan937
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I don't know if it's too late or not. One thing that could make that tough is DC and the SWBL are already prepping for them to start in the conference in all sports besides football starting 2025-2026. It sounds like the Bethel move won't take place until a year or 2 after that.
Gamma Gobbler
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Honestly, I wouldn't think the SWBL cares one way or another if DC stays. The conference is upside down right now in divisions and DC does nothing for that. IF DC bolted now, after a year of SWBL play, I don't think that would hurt to many feelings. They are better suited for the TRC and should take this time to reconsider the arse whippings they will receive.
RollingTrain
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I mean this was very well known in Sept/Oct and essentially a done deal then. Not sure why it took so long to actually announce.
dograt
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Seems pretty unfair. The SRC disbanded in 2001 (not East's fault), they left the CBC for the CCC (2006), the CCC kicked them out for being too good (2021). "League hopping" makes it sound like its their fault, when actually they have only left one league since joining the SRC in 1982.
Exactly what I was going to post. I still think ME belongs in the OHC. Community, cultural, and athletic fits across the board.
MU would too, but I think they’re just a little out of the footprint.
PrairieDog
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I think it depends on the school. Covington, Miami East, Newton, and Arcanum play each other regularly in multiple sports, and have always seemed to have good relationships. Tri Village Prep on the other hand I think has a less than warm relationship with the schools they didn't invite to the new league.
Gamma Gobbler
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Funny...I was thinking the same with ME. It would be cool to see them settle into the OHC North and give the Tigers, Indians and Riders a run for their money. ME got some badarse girl wrestlers.
None of the Catholic schools outside of Cincinnati can count on any financial assistance from Cincinnati these days. The diocese commitment to Catholic schools is not what it once was. Each school needs a deep pockets donor like C-J or Alter. Schools like Central or Carroll which don’t have that heavy pockets base have to work twice as hard just to keep heads above water. For whatever reason the new Christian schools haven’t had as many financial issues or so it seems from the outside.
BucksFan937
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I agree, and some of the more southern schools fill their out of conference games with SWBL or Metro Buckeye schools. If Covington needs a 2nd school to join with them, then it probably won't happen. If it's just Covington, I wouldn't mind seeing them added because the fit and the history with the other schools in the conference.
Most of the Christian schools have been based in affluent suburbs rather than the inner city like the Catholic model has been. Centerville for Dayton Christian is very different than Carroll's East Dayton community, or CJ's Dayton. Middle Town Christian and Legacy Christian struggle more financially than those like Dayton Christian or Troy Christian who are based in the center of upper middle class communities.
The voucher system is a game changer for the Christian schools and I would assume Catholic schools are benefiting as well? The irony of the Bethel situation is many families moved out of Dayton to settle in Bethel for the small rural atmosphere to raise their families. With the rapid growth I know of several families who are now opting for Troy Christian rather than Bethel to accomplish their objective of small school benefits.
Weiskittle
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TRC might not even make it to a decade.
footballsalads43
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Just thought I would throw this in here, but per the MVL thread, the league is having discussions on potentially giving Greenville the boot..
If that were to happen they are going to be in a world of trouble trying to find a new conference, absolutely no way the SWBL or CBC will take them, Greenville would be a travel nightmare and they just don’t need them. WOAC I imagine will be a hard pass. The only league I can think of that would work is the Three Rivers Conference.. and it would be a match made out of desperation more than anything, but I really don’t see any other option for Greenville or the Three Rivers Conference. They would be a very very large fish in a very small pond, but it beats being independent. Just some food for thought. Opinions on this?
If that were to happen they are going to be in a world of trouble trying to find a new conference, absolutely no way the SWBL or CBC will take them, Greenville would be a travel nightmare and they just don’t need them. WOAC I imagine will be a hard pass. The only league I can think of that would work is the Three Rivers Conference.. and it would be a match made out of desperation more than anything, but I really don’t see any other option for Greenville or the Three Rivers Conference. They would be a very very large fish in a very small pond, but it beats being independent. Just some food for thought. Opinions on this?
Greenville would fit decently with Milton, Northridge, Brookville, Bethel even, but Greenville with Riverside in Logan county or tiny Lehman and Troy Christian not so much. They have some very serious issues, and if fixed, would radically change their performance. Basically, right now they fit nowhere, because they are a drastically underperforming big school who is losing it's best athletes to Franklin Monroe and Tri Village. If I were an AD at one of the smaller TRC schools I would have to vote no to such an idea. Northwestern or Graham would be so much better fit for TRC.
dograt
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Greenville is actually a good fit competition wise. The problem would come if the lesser competition "awakens the giant" and Greenville actually gets as their size says they could be.
the TRC could add Greenville, SCC, and Ft Loramie (FB only). and have 5 big and 5 small. Might be able to avoid too many Greenville-Riverside matchups. If you rotate the crossover games, small schools would only get them 60% of seasons (3 OOC, 3 crossover, 4 same side)
the TRC could add Greenville, SCC, and Ft Loramie (FB only). and have 5 big and 5 small. Might be able to avoid too many Greenville-Riverside matchups. If you rotate the crossover games, small schools would only get them 60% of seasons (3 OOC, 3 crossover, 4 same side)
PrairieDog
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I'm curious if the "leadership" at Greenville would even consider this. I don't see how it would benefit them for post season tournaments either. Kind of feels like the same situation Bethel is in, except Bethel's teams are actually good.
When the TRC formed, they asked Ft. Loramie to join, but it had to be for all sports. Obviously they wouldn't do that. I don't see either one of those mindsets changing.
When the TRC formed, they asked Ft. Loramie to join, but it had to be for all sports. Obviously they wouldn't do that. I don't see either one of those mindsets changing.
footballsalads43
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I know I said there’s no way Greenville will ever be accepted into the current SWBL, but thinking about it, if they can get in the division with Eaton, Brookville and Valley View that would be far and away their best fit if the MVL boots them. Those 3 schools aren’t that far from them. But a team will have to leave the SWBL, which I’m not sure happens at this time. Although, @OldSchoolDC did bring up a good point that the SWBL is adding a lot of schools. I think it’s real possible that we can see the SWBL break into two separate leagues eventually. It just doesn’t make sense to have 14 schools, 8 in one division and 6 in another with minimal or no crossovers.
If they do get the boot it’s looking like their only hope would be the Three Rivers somehow agrees to add them.
I doubt the MVL boots them either, but it’s nice food for thought.
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dograt
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Can anybody name a team that was ever given the boot from a conference for not being good enough?
I can't see it happening.
Leaving on their own or getting booted for being to good or too big? sure. 7 principals deciding to kick you out because you're an easy win for their school? nah. Especially now that everyone with a decent record makes the playoffs.
I can't see it happening.
Leaving on their own or getting booted for being to good or too big? sure. 7 principals deciding to kick you out because you're an easy win for their school? nah. Especially now that everyone with a decent record makes the playoffs.
StateChampion2012
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The only one I can think of is Vanlue but that's because they tried playing McComb with 10 players.
footballsalads43
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Sounds like from the MVL thread it has more to do with their AD being hard to work with.
Only time I’ve seen a conference kick a member out is the GWOC and Trotwood after Lebanon left the league and there was only 9 members left. But that move made sense as Trotwood was the clear odd man out of the league with being the smallest school and struggles fielding competitive teams outside of football and boys basketball. Outside of that, I haven’t seen it happen. If the MVL does do it to Greenville I don’t think it’ll be a very pretty situation whatsoever.