2024 Steubenville Big Red

So, what are you saying.. Big Red will win easily in the opener? I'm saying they are not one of the best teams in d3..does that compute with you?
UH. I'm saying it's D4 Ohio High School Football, not the SEC. I also believe that if Big Red is healthy, they will be an improved team and one of the best in their region. I think McNich is a very good program, and the game should be good.

We've had plenty of solid openers and home openers recently, and I wonder why you'd talk down or pretend they didn't play Penn Hills, Dover, Jackson Reed, Upper St. Clair, Mooney, Olentangy Liberty, Ursuline, and New Philadelphia. I was also surprised by your comments towards McNich fans about their 50-3 loss to Hartley last year.
 
UH. I'm saying it's D4 Ohio High School Football, not the SEC. I also believe that if Big Red is healthy, they will be an improved team and one of the best in their region. I think McNich is a very good program, and the game should be good.

We've had plenty of solid openers and home openers recently, and I wonder why you'd talk down or pretend they didn't play Penn Hills, Dover, Jackson Reed, Upper St. Clair, Mooney, Olentangy Liberty, Ursuline, and New Philadelphia. I was also surprised by your comments towards McNich fans about their 50-3 loss to Hartley last year.
Or they lost to Alter by 21 vs 48 for big red.
 
Or they lost to Alter by 21 vs 48 for big red.
The Hartley game was an aberration. I’ve been following McNick for 10+ years and never have seen such a meltdown. Closest thing I recall was a 49-0 loss to Alter in 2014 when both teams were undefeated and ranked top 5 in the state. The Alter game last year was closer then the score indicates ( I know but it was honest) score was 7-7 in 3rd quarter. I expect McNick to show up. They should be a better team then last year….12,13 returning starters, Sophomore class that was undefeated as Frosh, a pair of twins who transferred from St.X , overall better depth. Coach Orlando knows all about Big Red. I doubt he would schedule the game if he didn’t think he had a squad that could compete.
 
The kids play hard for sure,which i love.The fans are full of themselve's...get old.
I agree that “SOME” fans are full of themselves. But that’s not all Big Red fans, that’s what I take issue with. When someone is negative about the Red...look out,

Big Red stands defender,
of the CRIMSON AND THE BLACK!


RRR
 
The kids play hard for sure,which i love.The fans are full of themselve's...get old.
I don’t think our fans are any different than the fan bases of other strong and championship programs. Every fan base has idiots. Being the 3rd winningest program (soon to be 2nd) in Ohio a certain amount of pride goes with that. Steubenville City schools in particular SHS is a huge point of pride in a town where there is not much else to get behind and Big Red football leads the way.
 
This is a good synopsis let me add a few things. The rising Sophomore class has a half dozen kids or more that will contribute. They went 10-0 as Frosh including wins over 4 D1 teams (St X included). There were 45 kids on this Freshmen team. (McNick doesn’t dress Freshmen). They also added Junior twins from St.X that according to X posters were competing for starting positions there (don’t know the story of why they transferred). I would expect McNick to give Big Red a game but I know it’s a difficult venue. Looking forward to the opener. If nothing else McNick will be tested to compete in the remaining 9 games and playoffs. Wishing Big Red a successful season.
 
I feel both teams a will be trying to establish their identity early on in the scrimmages. We had 33 frosh play a 7 game season (rollredroll.com) finishing 7-0. We will have a strong sophomore class as well, many will contribute. We had a 2 year starting QB transfer back to us from Wheeling Park. Our main areas to fill will be the WR,TE, one DE positions.

Mike O will have he Rockets ready. I agree this will be a good test that will guide both teams into the playoffs.

RRR
 
I feel both teams a will be trying to establish their identity early on in the scrimmages. We had 33 frosh play a 7 game season (rollredroll.com) finishing 7-0. We will have a strong sophomore class as well, many will contribute. We had a 2 year starting QB transfer back to us from Wheeling Park. Our main areas to fill will be the WR,TE, one DE positions.

Mike O will have he Rockets ready. I agree this will be a good test that will guide both teams into the playoffs.

RRR
I hope a few returning big contributors who had offseason medical procedures are at 100% to start the season.
 
If they can play clean. Reno should have at least gotten a suspension for last year's dismal dsplay of sportmanship. It will be a great game. Go Rockets
If he didn't get suspended for the 2012 scandal 22 flags and 6 un-unsportsman like penalties in a game won't get him a suspension!
 
As long as they are bullying hand picked scheduled teams...them last 3 games last year should leave no one thinking they make a run at D3
Not to mention their 80 playoff wins, 20 of which were regional championship wins. I'm not sure how the state continues to allow them to handpick their playoff opponents. You really should investigate. I believe if you can get to the bottom of things, people will start to take you seriously.
 
As long as they are bullying hand picked scheduled teams...them last 3 games last year should leave no one thinking they make a run at D3
That's my biggest gripe with steubenville is they handpick terrible opponents and it's actually sad because they have a great program. I used to love going down to play them they have one of the top atmospheres in the state of Ohio but to call yourself one of the best when you play a bunch of West Virginia schools when there is a lot of good talent in the state it's kind of crazy to me. I don't care what nobody says and I'm not trying to turn this into a Massillon versus steubenville thread but there is no reason in God's green earth that them two should not be doing a home and home every single year both fan bases are crazy and the atmosphere at both stadiums are electric there's absolutely no reason you shouldn't be seeing great games like that throughout the season.
 
That's my biggest gripe with Steubenville is they handpick terrible opponents and it's actually sad because they have a great program. I used to love going down to play them they have one of the top atmospheres in the state of Ohio but to call yourself one of the best when you play a bunch of West Virginia schools when there is a lot of good talent in the state it's kind of crazy to me. I don't care what nobody says and I'm not trying to turn this into a Massillon versus Steubenville thread but there is no reason in God's green earth that them two should not be doing a home and home every single year both fan bases are crazy and the atmosphere at both stadiums are electric there's absolutely no reason you shouldn't be seeing great games like that throughout the season.
Stop. Which "bunch" of West Virginia schools are they playing? Wheeling Park, a D1 West Virginia school, who is a conference rival in all sports. Linsly, a prep school, also a conference all-sports rival. *Linsly has played Desales, Dover, New Phila, Fort Frye, Holy Name, Licking Valley, Mooney, Richmond Hts, and St. Clairsville in football over the past couple seasons.

You're bashing Big Red's D4 schedule while having Wooster, Euclid, Canisius, Glen Oak, and Reynoldsburg on your D2 schedule a year or two ago. And I get it that you can't play 10 straight powerhouses; I just wish others understood that before throwing rocks.

Steubenville is clearly a better game than a school from Delaware, or Euclid, but it is a bad game for Big Red. As I stated before, Steubenville is the only D4 public school and one of only 2 D3 public schools to beat Massillon in over 20 years. Maybe some other small public school should test them other than us.



*Morgantown (Biggest school in WV) 5-0, Brooke (5miles away) 10-0, Wheeling CC (12 WV State Titles) 1-0 are the only other WV schools they've played in the last 20 years. 16 games against Conference opponents.
 
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Stop. Which "bunch" of West Virginia schools are they playing? Wheeling Park, a D1 West Virginia school, who is a conference rival in all sports. Linsly, a prep school, also a conference all-sports rival. *Linsly has played Desales, Dover, New Phila, Fort Frye, Holy Name, Licking Valley, Mooney, Richmond Hts, and St. Clairsville in football over the past couple seasons.

You're bashing Big Red's D4 schedule while having Wooster, Euclid, Canisius, Glen Oak, and Reynoldsburg on your D2 schedule a year or two ago. And I get it that you can't play 10 straight powerhouses; I just wish others understood that before throwing rocks.

Steubenville is clearly a better game than a school from Delaware, or Euclid, but it is a bad game for Big Red. As I stated before, Steubenville is the only D4 public school and one of only 2 D3 public schools to beat Massillon in over 20 years. Maybe some other small public school should test them other than us.



*Morgantown (Biggest school in WV) 5-0, Brooke (5miles away) 10-0, Wheeling CC (12 WV State Titles) 1-0 are the only other WV schools they've played in the last 20 years. 16 games against Conference opponents.
Well let's see Euclid is division one, canisius I believe is the equivalent of division 1 in New York and actually beat us in 2017, reynoldsburg is division one one year deal. I don't know if you know this but Glenoak and Massillon was once considered a better rivalry then Canton McKinley we started playing Glenoak in 2009 and is the only other Stark county School besides McKinley that we have had a consistent series with. I don't care about the state of West Virginia in my personal opinion they're high school football is crap I'm taking Ohio any day of the week I love Ohio high School football I love what steubenville do but they should be ashamed of themselves because they do not play top competition in the state there's matchups I know a lot of people especially fans would love to see but when you look at steubenville schedule and all you see is West Virginia schools that most people never heard of who of course big red is going to blow out yeah a lot of people is going to have a problem with that. I've heard from a lot of old timers that Massillon and Steubenville was a big game back in the day and if I'm not mistaken I think they were a part of the old AAC conference I don't care what you say that game should always be played it's a game that benefits both communities can't nobody in the state deny what steubenville has done on the football field so of course I feel like they should be playing top teams in the state year in a year out whether you like that statement or not is true and steubenville is in the top five of most winningest programs in the state so of course a lot of other teams ain't going to step up because they're not steubenville they don't have the tradition that you guys have.
 
Stop. Which "bunch" of West Virginia schools are they playing? Wheeling Park, a D1 West Virginia school, who is a conference rival in all sports. Linsly, a prep school, also a conference all-sports rival. *Linsly has played Desales, Dover, New Phila, Fort Frye, Holy Name, Licking Valley, Mooney, Richmond Hts, and St. Clairsville in football over the past couple seasons.

You're bashing Big Red's D4 schedule while having Wooster, Euclid, Canisius, Glen Oak, and Reynoldsburg on your D2 schedule a year or two ago. And I get it that you can't play 10 straight powerhouses; I just wish others understood that before throwing rocks.

Steubenville is clearly a better game than a school from Delaware, or Euclid, but it is a bad game for Big Red. As I stated before, Steubenville is the only D4 public school and one of only 2 D3 public schools to beat Massillon in over 20 years. Maybe some other small public school should test them other than us.



*Morgantown (Biggest school in WV) 5-0, Brooke (5miles away) 10-0, Wheeling CC (12 WV State Titles) 1-0 are the only other WV schools they've played in the last 20 years. 16 games against Conference opponents.
Oh yeah that team from Delaware had a bunch of D1 recruits on their team both years and they also were the Delaware state champion I believe they are equivalent to division 2.... And I like how you just solely focus on a couple one year deals that we had on our schedule and you don't talk about us playing Cincinnati Moller ,Pick Central ,St Ed's ,St Ignatius,East St Louis,Bergan Catholic and Valdosta just to name a few.... Oh an BTW Massillon and steubenville played each other in 2015 so what you're saying is it was only a good game for you guys because we wasn't good but when we got good it's not a good game for you guys all of a sudden and now you're scared to play us when we are good? Gotcha
 
Oh yeah that team from Delaware had a bunch of D1 recruits on their team both years and they also were the Delaware state champion I believe they are equivalent to division 2.... And I like how you just solely focus on a couple one year deals that we had on our schedule and you don't talk about us playing Cincinnati Moller ,Pick Central ,St Ed's ,St Ignatius,East St Louis,Bergan Catholic and Valdosta just to name a few.... Oh an BTW Massillon and THE Big Red of Steubenville played each other in 2015 so what you're saying is it was only a good game for you guys because we wasn't good but when we got good it's not a good game for you guys all of a sudden and now you're scared to play us when we are good? Gotcha
My point was that you have no idea what you're talking about when you say they play a "bunch" of West Virginia teams. They play two.

These are the only high schools in Ohio located within 30 miles of Steubenville. Harrison Central D6, Edison D6, Martins Ferry D6, Indian Creek D3, Wellsville D7, Toronto D7, Buckeye Local D4, and Steubenville CC D7.

It's insane to me that you're attempting to defend EUCLID as a good game for Massillon; I'd never say Allderdice, a much larger school than Steubenville, is a good game. Also, my point about Delaware was that having a big Ohio game is far better. We've played Salesianum several times; they're Middletown's rival. But clearly, us playing Marion Local would be a much better game.

Big Red played Massillon 7X, went 3-4, and maybe two of the games were good. Following our last meeting, we went to three consecutive state championships. It was a fun series, but pretending that it's a smart idea for D4 Steubenville, which plays around 30 kids during a 16-week season, should play against Ohio's current #1 program every year is ridiculous.

I plainly stated that you cannot play ten powerhouses in a season, meaning I understand Massillon's scheduling, so I'm not sure why you're taking offense to me naming some bad games on your schedule after YOU TRASHED our D4 schedule. But yeah, call Mooney, Ursuline, Desales, Dover, Fitch, New Phila, ASVSM, Penn Hills, DC St, Johns, Woodland Hills, McNich, McDowell, Inkster, Glen Este, St. Joes (NJ), Athens (Joe Burrow), Watterson, Buchtel, Rock Creek, Olentangy Liberty, DC Carroll, The Hun School, Barberton, Clinton Massie and Massillon etc. a "bunch of WV schools. Gotcha.
 
That's my biggest gripe with steubenville is they handpick terrible opponents and it's actually sad because they have a great program. I used to love going down to play them they have one of the top atmospheres in the state of Ohio but to call yourself one of the best when you play a bunch of West Virginia schools when there is a lot of good talent in the state it's kind of crazy to me. I don't care what nobody says and I'm not trying to turn this into a Massillon versus steubenville thread but there is no reason in God's green earth that them two should not be doing a home and home every single year both fan bases are crazy and the atmosphere at both stadiums are electric there's absolutely no reason you shouldn't be seeing great games like that throughout the season.
Reno is very careful with that scheduling lol
 
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