If Hyzdu could do it all over again I would bet he would have hired Pat instead of hiring Rosfeld but like some have said I think they thought Rosfeld would be here for the next 20 years. Let's see how long it is before our next State Championship. For Rodenburg to do it Back-to-Back and then in that third year to go to the Semi's and lose on a last minute TD you have to admit that is very impressive. I was for them keeping Rodenburg but having him make some changes to the "culture" of the program and schemes offensively and defensively. Elder, X and other schools have gone into skids with losing seasons or sub-par seasons but those schools stuck with their coaches (Ramsey and Specht) and they turned it around. Our problem here is that we all want a State Title every year. Many alumn's think we are still in the '70's and '80's and those days are long gone. Back then we didn't play the schedules that we play today. I think this entire situation, 2-8 season, could have been avoided if Hyzdu would have hired Pat from the start. Let's hope Moeller is making a change. Our program can't afford to lose another year of not being competitive and be the laughing stock of high school football.
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MoeDude
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I disagree with this statement. I think alumn's realize times have changed, but a lot of alumn's also knew Nauman was not the guy but the warnings went unheard. Rodenberg won when he had a solid coaching staff. Other programs that win year in and year out have solid coaching staffs in place. Coach Faust won because he had and kept a solid coaching staff. A lot of the alums from those years talk as much about Gigliotti, Barreterie(sp?), Bacigalupo, Parker, etc and later on Higgins, as much as they talk about Coach Faust. It seems to me that Moeller's program has been in turmoil ever since Coach Klonne was let go. I think it was time for Coach Klonne to retire back then but it was definitely handled poorly and we haven't been quite the same since.
I sure hope they make a move this off season and get the right guy in place who's interested in the long term and rebuilds the coaching staff to a solid group that works well together and stays together for several years.
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GopherHole
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Now it's Hyzdu's turn . . . and then Assbeck
Hopefully today's announcement is the start to rebuilding this proud program. Lets applaud the Moeller leadership for today's decision and hope the program can hire a great coach this program truly deserves.
TriStateFBisBest
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I just saw the coach's comments and thought he handled the situation very well. Plenty of talent and potential at Moeller and the right coach will have excellent opportunity to bring program back to greatness if administration supports.
If you want a history lesson, talk to people that were around when Higgins was ask to leave, then you know how/why Klonne was let go ...
Until the culture is changed, my prediction is this football program will have more down years the up years.
so see you in 5 to 8 years to see where this program is at.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Until the culture is changed, my prediction is this football program will have more down years the up years.
so see you in 5 to 8 years to see where this program is at.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
cincyfballer1738
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Yet here we go again....living in the past. On this day, which should be a great new day for Moeller....we have to live in the past. I honestly could care less about how or why Klonne was fired some 19 years ago. I honestly could care less. That has no affect on anything that goes on at Moeller today. Nobody in the Moeller administration today was around then to make those decisions. I AM DONE HEARING ABOUT IT. Lets focus on the future today, just for one day. Nobody wants to live out 19 years ago again.
Well said. Hopefully everyone decides to get behind the program and positively move forward!
What's the deal with McLaughlin? I read other things on here about his brother leaving too. Was there really some struggle with Pat and the higher ups at the school or is that yappi manufactured? Was it with Hyzdu? Other admins? Did he want the job when Rosfeld got it, so there were hurt feelings or is there more to it?
I think you have missed the mark on every point you tried to make. This is a very attractive job for any coach. I don’t think any coach was forced out because of parents- they don’t have nearly the power over the football program at Moeller they may have at other schools. The alumni base definitely has more power than any of the current parents may have- if anyone does. The timing of Rosfeld leaving really limited the ability to search widely. Also, with the turmoil of having two new coaches in as many years- I believe it was felt that having someone from within the program afforded some stability to the program. It takes a lot to run a football program at this level- what is seen at practices and games barely scratches the surface. I ran into Rosfeld once doing laundry on a Sunday in the locker room, people don’t understand how much falls on these coaches they just see the finished product.
Naumanns departure at this early point in the off season gives Moeller the best opportunity to recruit a new coach. The best part is they have nowhere to go but up.
FourthAndOne
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Time to see if Marshall and Karl do their job or continue to allow their EGOS to get in the way.
Doubt Karl has much to do with this decision- Asbeck more involvement than Kremer. The disdain for Hyzdu on here is head shaking- his efforts with the school are showing extremely positive results. Starting to think some of the posters here were classmates of his and are simply jealous of his success. They hired Rosfeld and he was a very solid coach and likely could have been a long term coach if not for the bengals opening. Naumam was a definite mistake but it was probably the best option given the timing.
The moeller admins are playing it very smart and not putting all of their eggs in the football basket. Look at the success of the other teams this fall- both soccer and golf made it to state. While many on here think that is a bad thing- it is good for Moeller as a whole. The football program needs to be a priority and it will take a couple of years, but the school is headed in the right direction.
Elder Panther
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Such hand wringing because of one terrible season. The team was bad,your football program NEVER experienced such a season in it's storied history.Next season you will contend for the GCL championship with a new coach. The near future looks bright,the freshmen class is loaded with talent.
The GCLS is obviously a better conference with Moeller as a powerhouse. It makes a victory over the Mighty Moe that much sweeter.
GO ELDER.
The GCLS is obviously a better conference with Moeller as a powerhouse. It makes a victory over the Mighty Moe that much sweeter.
GO ELDER.
GOBIGMOE12
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The team was not bad. Go do some research before being disrespectful by making a comment like that. Plenty of talent on the roster. Coaching was the problem with the team this year. The roster was certainly not what it was last year but definitely a playoff/GCL championship contending roster with the proper coaching.
Elder Panther
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I'm sorry you feel your team was being maligned. My comments were not intended to be disrespectful, I thought it was obviously a down year for the team. What kind of research did you want me to do? I know you were 2-8 and your stats were dismal. I know you can not put all the blame on the coaching staff.
To think I was trying to encourage the Moeller faithful to put this season behind them,to look forward to next season that will put them back in the hunt for the title. How stupid of me.
To think I was trying to encourage the Moeller faithful to put this season behind them,to look forward to next season that will put them back in the hunt for the title. How stupid of me.
I for one did not think your post was disparaging EP. The future looks good for Big Moe. This was a very difficult season to say the least.
It was bound to happen at some point in time. GBM
OldSchoolPanther
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From an outsiders perspective, it seems purposeful that Moe is trying to build out their school as more than just "a football school". IMO, that will only help their future success as a school. Might not ever get Moe football back to where they were, but if it means a much stronger school with more diverse interests and successes, that's a good thing if you ask me.
Their accomplishments outside of football have been significant.
Their accomplishments outside of football have been significant.
I beg to differ on missing the mark. Every football coach at Moeller has been measured against Gerry Faust. Fans/alumni/parents all expect Moeller to relive the glory days. Ultimately fans/parents/alumni grow tired of good coaches who don't live up to these standards. Its why Klonne, Crable and Rodenburg were all forced out (even if they resigned). You are kidding yourself if you don't think potential coaches look at Rodenburg's departureand wonder if they want to step into a no win situation. Obviously someone will take the job but I am not sure if it is viewed as the kind of opportunity that it once was. While parents may not have the influence they do at a Mason or Lebanon I think they definitely have more of an influence then they do at St X or Elder. St X has had 3 coaches in the past 60 years and each left on his own terms. There were definitely years that the fan base was unhappy but it had no influence on their job status. I would imagine that Elder is the same way.
As for the timing impacting their abilty to do a national search I am not sure I agree. Rosfeld left in early February. That gave the school five months before mini camp in mid July. This is a search for a high school football coach, not Fortune 500 CEO. I am pretty sure they could have found someone in that time frame.
So you are suggesting that Moeller settled for Nauman for the sake of stability? How did that work out? The program is considerably more unstable after the past year.
Finally if Rosfeld has to do the team laundry on a Sunday then I would suggest that is another mark against this being a premier high school coaching job.
Moeller is a great school with a rich tradition however times change. Moeller football is a good job but I don't think it is viewed as it once was. I think the need to find the right coach and then the administration, alumni and fan base have to be patient and give the coach the necessary time to turn around the program
Every coach should be measured against the best! For Moeller that was Faust. I don’t understand how people think Rodenberg got a raw deal- his wins were clearly heavily influenced by a great staff. In his last couple of years there was chaos at games, trouble in the locker room, and no clear plan to improve any of it. His last season there was out of control and the AD is partly to blame as he did nothing to reel in the ridiculous behavior of the parents/fans. However the biggest grumbling came from alumni, not current parents. Threats to revoke donations and financial support were rampant- to say that Disgruntled Alumni didn’t Heavily influence the decision is disingenuous.
I agree the decision to go with Naumann for stability (someone familiar with the kids, the staff, works at Moeller, long time coach) was short sighted- but that is what I believe the admins felt was best given the timing and the translation of 3 coaches in 3 years. Most coaching changes are done just after the season- there are few looking for jobs that late in the cycle and not sure those are the ones you want. I’m not saying I agree with it, but understand why that decision was made.
I absolutely think the chance to make a mark at a school like Moeller is very attractive to many coaches. I hope they find a great fit.
TriStateFBisBest
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The Big Moe will be back. Needs full support of the administration and athletic department.
TriStateFBisBest
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Any updates on the process?
No update because nobody will apply because of the Circus that has been created. Why in the world would anyone give up a teaching and coaching job where they are at to come to Moeller to be the head football coach? This will be our fourth coach in four years....there is no stability. The Administration screwed this up last year when Rosfeld resigned. I get it they thought they had a lifer in Rosfeld but when he left there were plenty of coaches interested in the job. Like the thread on the main page said there were 75 applicants when Rosfeld left and we got Naumann? That shows you the Circus that has been created. The only way to get a "qualified" coach in here is to pay them like the Public System does (Bolden money) and give them a 5 year guaranteed contract to show them that they will have time to rebuild the program. The Administration (aka: Hyzdu) needs to move and have a coach hired no later than mid-January, hopefully sooner, so that he has the opportunity to hire a staff of "qualified" coaches not the clowns that we had this year. Let's hope they (Hyzdu) gets it right this time. GBM!
Your always so positive Moe Fan? Moeller will get the right guy. Go away.