cabezadecaballo
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No it didn't....still a Finals team without him...and a couple plays from 2-2.
This notion the Cavs had no hope to compete is nonsense.
:Ohno:
I really fear you are sincere here.
No it didn't....still a Finals team without him...and a couple plays from 2-2.
This notion the Cavs had no hope to compete is nonsense.
Where did I hope for an injury?
I would love to know what really happened with Kyrie? Is this the same reason Paul George opted to stay in OKC rather than be LeBron's Robin?
To me to celebrate the Title was awesome and I just wore my Lockerroom T yesterday but the it is kind of sad. Should have been so much more. LeBron and a healthy Kyrie are the only thing in this NBA that could unseat the Warriors. Where was this Kevin Love in the past few Finals because him with LBJ/Kyrie could have done it. To me 2018 Houston was basically 2016 OKC they didn't want it enough. I mean come on 27 straight missed 3 point shots. Take it to the hoop dammit, LOL.
Pretty amazing insights into the LeBron Phase II years.
https://923thefan.radio.com/article...ion-jason-lloyd-dave-mcmenamin-and-joe-vardon
Both LeBron and Kyrie had huge egos in Cle. What the roundtable today intimated was that Kyrie wasn't really interested in winning, but rather making himself more marketable.
I think the point was that, to Kyrie, sacrificing team primacy wasn't worth winning more sooner. I doubt he'd eschew the Title for another Uncle Drew movie.
Pretty amazing insights into the LeBron Phase II years.
https://923thefan.radio.com/article...ion-jason-lloyd-dave-mcmenamin-and-joe-vardon
So sorry about your head injury. I sure hope they can do something for you.
:Ohno:
I really fear you are sincere here.
I now understand the emotion you're expending on this.
To answer the question at hand, HELL YES!
You suggesting they weren't in postion to win 2 games?
No - just that they were in a position to get bent over for a 7 game series
No way to know what happens at 2-2. To suggest they were overmatched all 4 games is silly.
But they weren't 2-2. They were 0-4. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
But they weren't 2-2. They were 0-4. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
The point is they weren't the light years behind everyone tries to portray.
They lost 7 out of 8 finals games and had 24 fewer regular season wins in the same two years. Two even teams until two seasons ago when one of the teams added the second best player in basketball while the other lost a top 20 player last year. Yep, they were neck and neck.
Everything the past 15 years.
7 years. No playoffs first two but improvement shown. Almost beating Kingpin Detroit then beating Detroit to get an undermanned team to the Finals. Then reshuffling roster and taking eventual champs to 7 games before falling. Then consecutive earlier than expected losses despite 66 and 61 wins. There was Delonte, Elbow or No Elbow, Did he Quit?, The Decision and "Quitness". Then there was 3 awful years but in year 4 there was some improvement. LeBron comes back despite media doubting it. Cavs struggle early but get to the Finals with a hobbled team and were nearly up 3-0 in the Finals. Then came the 3-1 to Champions vs the Most winning team in NBA History. Then Durant joins The Evil Empire. Cavs fall in 5 in the "Three-Match", Kyrie leaves, team is filled with old stiffs and trades at deadline better the team. LBJ nearly falls in Round 1 for the first time ever but then roll the #1 seed in the East before surviving a wounded Celtics team to get back to the Finals. Epic performance in Game 1 but an even worse performance by the officials on multiple occasions as well as two of his teammates bumbling a win. Was there a hand injury or was it Elbow 2.0? Now he leaves for the second time and goes to a place that has resented and disrespected him for a decade and a half.
Was that ONE CHAMPIONSHIP worth it? While it was unforgettable and so many epic performances and moments was it worth it? Some would say that in his 11 years in Cleveland the supposed GOAT should have been able to win more than a single Championship.
What does everyone think?
I'm not a Cavs fan, but it's a fair criticizm that if he's as good as people claim, one title in 15 years is a little thin. And consider if he was in the east, maybe some of those finals appearances don't even happen if he's in the west.
One title would be pretty thin, but he has three titles :shrug:
My question would be, what year did the team Lebron was on have enough talent to win, but didn't? The 2012 Miami team I would say is the only example. And that's offset by the 2016 Cavs team which had no business winning but did largely thanks to arguably the greatest finals performance ever from Lebron.
Just looked it up, Lebron has been the underdog in 7 of 9 finals(Mavs and first Spurs series the exceptions.)
I did not remember them being underdogs to OKC but evidently Vegas had OKC as a very slight favorite the year they met in the finals.
So he has actually overachieved with 3 titles.