Rush Limbaugh
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X is 0-3 in the last three games with Elder can they make it 0-4?
Week 3: St. X
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MickeyMantle
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Go Panthers!
Omar
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Elder’s D will be the key. The X running game looked much better vs LS. Kellom & Vrzansky are a nice duo. Of course the main focus is going to be limiting Clifford, getting Thomas back will help but he’s still going to get his touches.
On Offense, I expect you’ll see more Ramsey at QB since the X D has historically struggled with mobile QBs. Hambleton doesn’t get the credit he should for being mobile, but he’s not as good of a runner as Luebbe or Bittner.
On Offense, I expect you’ll see more Ramsey at QB since the X D has historically struggled with mobile QBs. Hambleton doesn’t get the credit he should for being mobile, but he’s not as good of a runner as Luebbe or Bittner.
Really? Reason?
Omar
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That’s going to be a huge blow. With Thomas out, they don’t have anyone who can cover Clifford in Man.
PantherVOR
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AllSports12
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If a punch was thrown, here's why....
"Any player ejected for fighting, as defined in the NFHS playing rules and included in this GSR, shall be ineligible for all contests for the remainder of that day. In addition, the player shall be ineligible for all contests at all levels in that sport until four regular season/tournament contests (two in football) are played at the same level as the ejection or disqualification."
Termite2
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June 2, 2020:
"The penalty has doubled for fighting in a sanctioned Ohio High School Athletic Association event.
The OHSAA approved a measure last month, when it also passed expansion for the 2021 football playoffs, by increasing suspension lengths when student-athletes are ejected for fighting.
For football, that doubles a suspension from one game to two. Most other sports, including basketball, doubles the penalty to four games."
www.cleveland.com
"The penalty has doubled for fighting in a sanctioned Ohio High School Athletic Association event.
The OHSAA approved a measure last month, when it also passed expansion for the 2021 football playoffs, by increasing suspension lengths when student-athletes are ejected for fighting.
For football, that doubles a suspension from one game to two. Most other sports, including basketball, doubles the penalty to four games."
OHSAA doubles suspension lengths for fighting, adds video review for flagrant fouls in football
The measures passed last month when the Ohio High School Athletic Association expanded the football playoffs for 2021.
www.cleveland.com
Westsidepublic
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Omar
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Is there an appeal process? I get being tossed & serving a 1 game suspension. However, 2.5 games missed, in a shortened season, bc of that? There’s been legitimate brawls in the past, mostly during b-ball games, that were the impetus for the rule change, but this is draconian.
Thank You.
I’d say the above picture should be a 2 Gamer. Straight shot to the Head not going to be tolerated in any OHSAA Sport.
MickeyMantle
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Damn, he took a shot at the principal's kid. I think, anyway. That's 27?
Omar
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What am I missing? It looks like an open hand push to the face while the other kid has his hand in his facemask. It was dumb on Thomas’ part and he deserved to be booted and even serve a 1 game suspension, but missing 2 games? That’s excessive.
FourthAndOne
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Seems like Elder should of appealed the suspension but maybe they know more than the rest of us
AllSports12
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The OHSAA General Sports Regulation states... (posted prior)
"Any player ejected for fighting, as defined in the NFHS playing rules and included in this GSR, shall be ineligible for all contests for the remainder of that day. In addition, the player shall be ineligible for all contests at all levels in that sport until four regular season/tournament contests (two in football) are played at the same level as the ejection or disqualification."
I highlighted and underlined the first part because the NFHS definition for fighting is.....
"Fighting is any attempt by a player or nonplayer to strike or engage a player or nonplayer in a combative manner unrelated to football. Such acts include, but are not limited to, attempts to strike an opponent(s) with the arm(s), hand(s), leg(s) or foot (feet), whether or not there is contact."
Please note....
A fist is not a prerequisite for fighting.
AllSports12
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There are no appeals for ejections.
There is however, a review process to determine whether or not an ejection is/was warranted in a situation like this.
ElderHSfan02
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I agree. The Elder player was defending himself, not fighting. Missing one more game is not the end of the world though. He will be back for Moeller and probably more motivated than ever to make up for his mistake.
AllSports12
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If you get struck illegally by an opponent, and you defend yourself by striking back....
By rule in every rule set..... You are fighting
Omar
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That’s why Elder should appeal, even if it’s a long shot.
Omar
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You also have to ask the spirit of the rule. This was hardly a melee, and you have to assume the rule was created with the intention of limiting actual brawls, not some ticky tac shove to the facemask
Westsidepublic
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ElderHSfan02
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I don't see what a few stand alone pictures shows besides a hand to the helmet. This happened 2 weeks ago. Time to move on.
eastside_purple
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Those stills just show both players put hands to each other’s face. ??
AllSports12
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As usual.. You are wrong.
If a player gets sucker punched and that player retaliated in the same way (or by what's described in the rule), he is gulity of fighting.