OHSFCA Top 25 Playoff Programs and Playoff Trivia

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Since the outcome of the D4 title game has no impact on this list I thought I would just post it now.

Team (Playoff record) (# of years qualifying) (State Titles) Total Points

1) Maria Stein Marion Local (96-12) (25) (13) 256
2) Newark Catholic (87-31) (39) (8) 237
3) Cleveland St. Ignatius (78-21) (32) (11) 221
tie) Coldwater (86-21) (28) (7) 221
5) Steubenville (73-31) (35) (4) 193
6) Youngstown Cardinal Mooney (66-23) (31) (8) 187
7) Mogadore (70-33) (36) (3) 185
8) Cincinnati Moeller (58-29) (38) (9) 181
9) Ironton (61-36) (38) (2) 166
10) Lakewood St. Edward (59-22) (28) (6) 164
11) Columbus DeSales (61-26) (29) (3) 160
12) Kirtland (59-12) (18) (6) 154
13) Delphos St. John's (56-13) (20) (6) 150
tie) Versailles (54-14) (21) (7) 150
15) Cincinnati St. Xavier (53-25) (29) (4) 147
16) Cleveland Benedictine (48-17) (24) (7) 141
17) Akron St. Vincent-St. Mary (47-20) (26) (6) 138
18) Akron Hoban (52-13) (18) (5) 137
tie) Youngstown Ursuline (51-19) (23) (4) 137
19) Kettering Alter (51-26) (28) (2) 136
tie) St. Henry (49-14) (20) (6) 136
22) Wheelersburg (47-32) (34) (2) 134
23) Warren JFK (50-24) (27) (2) 133
24) Columbus Bishop Hartley (49-17) (21) (4) 131
tie) Massillon Washington (51-29) (29) (0) 131
tie) Pickerington Central (51-21) (23) (2) 131

As always, the numbers listed left-to-right in parentheses are the teams’ playoff won-lost record, number of playoff appearances, state championships and then the OHSFCA point value. The value is based on 1 point per playoff appearance plus 2 points per playoff victory plus 3 points per playoff championship. The formula comes from The Ohio High School Football Coaches Assoc.
 
 
WJ-OSU-STEELERS said:
Could you please post the next 25 schools? Thanks
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27) Toledo Central Catholic (47-20) (24) (4) 130
28) Cincinnati Colerain (48-24) (25) (1) 124
29) Canton McKinley (41-27) (30) (3) 121
30) Columbus Bishop Watterson (44-24) (26) (2) 120
31) Clarksville Clinton-Massie (43-19) (22) (3) 117
tie) Norwalk St. Paul (45-23) (24) (1) 117
33) Trotwood-Madison (44-15) (18) (3) 115
34) Germantown Valley View (41-20) (23) (3) 114
35) Chardon (42-17) (20) (3) 113
36) Cincinnati Elder (41-22) (24) (2) 112
37) Cincinnati Wyoming (37-26) (28) 108
38) Mentor Lake Catholic (39-17) (20) (3) 107
39) Mentor (42-22) (22) (0) 106
tie) Orrville (37-24) (26) (2) 106
41) Hilliard Davidson (37-20) (22) (2) 102
tie) McComb (35-24) (26) (2) 102
43) Amanda-Clearcreek (36-21 (23) (2) 101
tie) Liberty Center (38-21) (22) (1) 101
45) Shadyside (38-24) (24) (0) 100
46) Hamilton Badin (34-26) (27) (1) 98
47) Minster (34-17) (20) (3) 97
tie) West Jefferson (33-23) (25) (2) 97
49) Marion Pleasant (30-23) (26) (3) 95
tie) St. Marys Memorial (32-19) (22) (3) 95
 
Instead of starting a new thread let's just add some playoff trivia questions to this one.

The 2022 season saw the 51st edition of the OHSAA championships played but it was the 50th anniversary of the first playoffs in 1972.

This year the D4 title game closed out the playoffs and I believe Micquan Gravely scored the last points of the game on a 2-point conversion after Glenville's last TD, so...........

1) Who scored the first points in an OHSAA playoff game? Obviously, the year was 1972 so please name the player and team. - Greg Thurman - Akron St. Vincent-St. Mary - Rich Blackburn

2) Who scored the first points in an OHSAA championship playoff game? Player and team please. - Otis Jenkins - Lorain Clearview - Rich Blackburn

3) Which stadiums hosted the first playoff games in 1972? - AAA @ The Shoe (DH), AA @ Troy & Massillon, & A @ Mansfiled & Upper Arlington - RedHawk89

4) Which stadiums hosted the first championship playoff games in 1972? - AAA @ Rubber Bowl, AA @ Massillon, & A @ Ohio Wesleyan - RedHawk89

Of course, all of the 2022 championship games were played at Tom Benson HOF Stadium so.......

5) What year were all of the championship games played at the same location for the first time? Year & location please - 1975 Akron Rubber Bowl - TriangleMan

6) What year were the championship games played at the most locations? Year & locations please. - 1980 - (5) Cincinnati Nippert Stadium, Upper Arlington, Springfield Evans Stadium, Columbus Whetstone, Mansfield Arlin Field - TriangleMan

7) How many different stadiums have hosted all the championship games in a playoff season? Stadiums & the first year that stadium hosted all the championship game please. - RedHawk89

a) Rubber Bowl - 1975
b) Welcome Stadium - 1978
c) Ohio Stadium - 1983
d) Paul Brown Tiger Stadium - 1993
e) Benson Hall of Fame - 2017

8) The 2022 season saw three first time champions crowned. When was the last time four teams won their first state championship in the same playoff season? Year and teams please. - reganaustinjames

D1 - Cincinnati St. Xavier
D2 - Toledo Central Catholic
D4 - Coldwater
D5 - Hamler Patrick Henry

9) Name the first season there were no first-time playoff champions crowned? - 1982 - reganaustinjames

10) Obviously since 1972 was the 1st playoff season all three champions that year won the title in the first year they qualified for the playoffs. Three teams winning a championship in their first playoff appearance in the same season has only happened one other year. Name the year and the three champions please. - reganaustinjames

Galion in D2
DeSales in D3
CAPE in D4.
 
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YTOWN said:
Instead of starting a new thread let's just add some playoff trivia questions to this one.

The 2022 season saw the 51st edition of the OHSAA championships played but it was the 50th anniversary of the first playoffs in 1972.

This year the D4 title game closed out the playoffs and I believe Micquan Gravely scored the last points of the game on a 2-point conversion after Glenville's last TD, so...........

1) Who scored the first points in an OHSAA playoff game? Obviously, the year was 1972 so please name the player and team.

2) Who scored the first points in an OHSAA championship playoff game? Player and team please.

3) Which stadiums hosted the first playoff games in 1972?

4) Which stadiums hosted the first championship playoff games in 1972?

Of course, all of the 2022 championship games were played at Tom Benson HOF Stadium so.......

5) What year were all of the championship games played at the same location for the first time? Year & location please

6) What year were the championship games played at the most locations? Year & locations please.

7) How many different stadiums have hosted all the championship games in a playoff season? Stadiums & the first year that stadium hosted all the championship game please.

8) The 2022 season saw three first time champions crowned. When was the last time four teams won their first state championship in the same playoff season? Year and teams please.

9) Name the first season there were no first-time playoff champions crowned?

10) Obviously since 1972 was the 1st playoff season all three champions that year won the title in the first year they qualified for the playoffs. Three teams winning a championship in their first playoff appearance in the same season has only happened one other year. Name the year and the three champions please.
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5) 1975 Akron Rubber Bowl
6) 1980 - (5) Cincinnati Nippert Stadium, Upper Arlington, Springfield Evans Stadium, Columbus Whetstone, Mansfield Arlin Field
 
8) The 2022 season saw three first time champions crowned. When was the last time four teams won their first state championship in the same playoff season? Year and teams please.

1990
St. Mary's Memorial -D2
Hamilton Badin -D3
Versailles - D4
St. Henry - D5
 
olschoolreddev said:
8) The 2022 season saw three first time champions crowned. When was the last time four teams won their first state championship in the same playoff season? Year and teams please.

1990
St. Mary's Memorial -D2
Hamilton Badin -D3
Versailles - D4
St. Henry - D5
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While you are correct in that all four of those teams were first time champions in 1990 that was not the last time it happened. Good answer though.
 
7) 5 - Rubber Bowl - 1975, Welcome Stadium - 1978, Ohio Stadium 1983, Paul Brown Tiger Stadium 1993, Tom Benson Hall of Fame Stadium 2017
 
YTOWN said:
Instead of starting a new thread let's just add some playoff trivia questions to this one.

The 2022 season saw the 51st edition of the OHSAA championships played but it was the 50th anniversary of the first playoffs in 1972.

This year the D4 title game closed out the playoffs and I believe Micquan Gravely scored the last points of the game on a 2-point conversion after Glenville's last TD, so...........

1) Who scored the first points in an OHSAA playoff game? Obviously, the year was 1972 so please name the player and team.

2) Who scored the first points in an OHSAA championship playoff game? Player and team please.

3) Which stadiums hosted the first playoff games in 1972? - AAA @ The Shoe (DH), AA @ Troy & Massillon, & A @ Mansfiled & Upper Arlington - RedHawk89

4) Which stadiums hosted the first championship playoff games in 1972? - AAA @ Rubber Bowl, AA @ Massillon, & A @ Ohio Wesleyan - RedHawk89

Of course, all of the 2022 championship games were played at Tom Benson HOF Stadium so.......

5) What year were all of the championship games played at the same location for the first time? Year & location please - 1975 Akron Rubber Bowl - TriangleMan

6) What year were the championship games played at the most locations? Year & locations please. - 1980 - (5) Cincinnati Nippert Stadium, Upper Arlington, Springfield Evans Stadium, Columbus Whetstone, Mansfield Arlin Field - TriangleMan

7) How many different stadiums have hosted all the championship games in a playoff season? Stadiums & the first year that stadium hosted all the championship game please.

8) The 2022 season saw three first time champions crowned. When was the last time four teams won their first state championship in the same playoff season? Year and teams please.

9) Name the first season there were no first-time playoff champions crowned?

10) Obviously since 1972 was the 1st playoff season all three champions that year won the title in the first year they qualified for the playoffs. Three teams winning a championship in their first playoff appearance in the same season has only happened one other year. Name the year and the three champions please.
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Question 7:

The answer is 5.

Rubber Bowl - 1975 (through 1977 and again in 1979)
Welcome Stadium - 1978 (only time)
Ohio Stadium - 1983 (through 1989, also 2014-16)
Paul Brown Tiger Stadium - 1993 (through 1997)
Benson Hall of Fame - 2017 (every year since except 2020)
 
YTOWN said:
Instead of starting a new thread let's just add some playoff trivia questions to this one.

The 2022 season saw the 51st edition of the OHSAA championships played but it was the 50th anniversary of the first playoffs in 1972.

This year the D4 title game closed out the playoffs and I believe Micquan Gravely scored the last points of the game on a 2-point conversion after Glenville's last TD, so...........

1) Who scored the first points in an OHSAA playoff game? Obviously, the year was 1972 so please name the player and team.

2) Who scored the first points in an OHSAA championship playoff game? Player and team please.

3) Which stadiums hosted the first playoff games in 1972? - AAA @ The Shoe (DH), AA @ Troy & Massillon, & A @ Mansfiled & Upper Arlington - RedHawk89

4) Which stadiums hosted the first championship playoff games in 1972? - AAA @ Rubber Bowl, AA @ Massillon, & A @ Ohio Wesleyan - RedHawk89

Of course, all of the 2022 championship games were played at Tom Benson HOF Stadium so.......

5) What year were all of the championship games played at the same location for the first time? Year & location please - 1975 Akron Rubber Bowl - TriangleMan

6) What year were the championship games played at the most locations? Year & locations please. - 1980 - (5) Cincinnati Nippert Stadium, Upper Arlington, Springfield Evans Stadium, Columbus Whetstone, Mansfield Arlin Field - TriangleMan

7) How many different stadiums have hosted all the championship games in a playoff season? Stadiums & the first year that stadium hosted all the championship game please.

8) The 2022 season saw three first time champions crowned. When was the last time four teams won their first state championship in the same playoff season? Year and teams please.

9) Name the first season there were no first-time playoff champions crowned?

10) Obviously since 1972 was the 1st playoff season all three champions that year won the title in the first year they qualified for the playoffs. Three teams winning a championship in their first playoff appearance in the same season has only happened one other year. Name the year and the three champions please.
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Question 8:

2000 (Marion Local, Ursuline, Upper Arlington, Olmsted Falls)

Question 9:

1982 (W. Jefferson won before in 1976, St. V had won in 1972 & 1981, Moeller had won 5x previously, Newark Catholic had won in 1978, and Mooney had won in 1973 and 1980)

Question 10:

1985; Columbus DeSales, CAPE, and Galion
 
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RedHawk89 said:
7) 5 - Rubber Bowl - 1975, Welcome Stadium - 1978, Ohio Stadium 1983, Paul Brown Tiger Stadium 1993, Tom Benson Hall of Fame Stadium 2017
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Very good. A lot of people forget about Welcome Stadium. Welcome also hosted the 1974 AA championship game. I know the sites for the finals are chosen beforehand, but that 74 AA choice of Welcome ended up making absolutely zero sense geographically because the game featured Norwalk vs. Louisville Aquinas.

reganaustinjames said:
Question 7:

The answer is 5.

Rubber Bowl - 1975 (through 1977 and again in 1979)
Welcome Stadium - 1978 (only time)
Ohio Stadium - 1983 (through 1989, also 2014-16)
Paul Brown Tiger Stadium - 1993 (through 1997)
Benson Hall of Fame - 2017 (every year since except 2020)
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Correct but RedHawk89 beat you to it.
 
reganaustinjames said:
Question 8:

2000 (Marion Local, Ursuline, Upper Arlington, Olmsted Falls)

Question 9:

1982 (W. Jefferson won before in 1976, St. V had won in 1972 & 1981, Moeller had won 5x previously, Newark Catholic had won in 1978, and Mooney had won in 1973 and 1980)

Question 10:

1985; Columbus DeSales, CAPE, and Galion
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For #8, like oldschoolredev's answer you are correct in that all four of those teams were first time champions in 2000 but it is not the last time it happened.

#9 is correct. God job.
 
Rich Blackburn said:
Question #1

Greg Thurman - Akron St. Vincent
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Excellent.

I have never seen anything official from OHSAA, but I do know that the Class AA semifinal games were played the day before the Class A & AAA semifinals were played. Both games kicked off at the same time but in the Akron St.V-St.M vs Lake AA semi game the Irish scored in less than 2:30 minutes into the 1st quarter and Mr. Thurman scored the TD. The other AA semifinal was scoreless until the 2nd quarter thus I say that Mr. Thurman scored the first points in OHSAA playoff history. Mr. Thurman went on to play at Akron U.

Lake should not have been in the playoffs in the first place. Can anybody tell me why?

Rich Blackburn said:
Question #2

Otis Jenkins - Lorain Clearview
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Correct again. The Class A title game was an afternoon KO and Mr. Jenkins scored the first points for the Clippers. As I remember it Mr. Jenkins was a state champion sprinter and I think he got a scholarship to Louisville for football. They lost to Marion Pleasant on a fumble return TD, the 2nd of the game for Pleasant, as time expired to lose, 20-14. Tough way to lose.

I'm pretty sure that Clearview won the Class A track and field title the next spring and Marion Pleasant was the runner-up and the football coaches at each school, Don Kay at Pleasant and Wayne Ross at Clearview, were also the track coaches. I guess it was a little payback for Clearview.
 
YTOWN said:
Excellent.

I have never seen anything official from OHSAA, but I do know that the Class AA semifinal games were played the day before the Class A & AAA semifinals were played. Both games kicked off at the same time but in the Akron St.V-St.M vs Lake AA semi game the Irish scored in less than 2:30 minutes into the 1st quarter and Mr. Thurman scored the TD. The other AA semifinal was scoreless until the 2nd quarter thus I say that Mr. Thurman scored the first points in OHSAA playoff history. Mr. Thurman went on to play at Akron U.

Lake should not have been in the playoffs in the first place. Can anybody tell me why?



Correct again. The Class A title game was an afternoon KO and Mr. Jenkins scored the first points for the Clippers. As I remember it Mr. Jenkins was a state champion sprinter and I think he got a scholarship to Louisville for football. They lost to Marion Pleasant on a fumble return TD, the 2nd of the game for Pleasant, as time expired to lose, 20-14. Tough way to lose.

I'm pretty sure that Clearview won the Class A track and field title the next spring and Marion Pleasant was the runner-up and the football coaches at each school, Don Kay at Pleasant and Wayne Ross at Clearview, were also the track coaches. I guess it was a little payback for Clearview.
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According to the OHSAA points listed on their website, in 1972 in D2R7, Hannibal River actually placed 1st, with Lake 2nd and Ironton 3rd. However, from the Youngstown Vindicator on 11/13/1972, River is listed 3rd, behind Lake and Ironton. The impetus behind this is that, in 1972, wins against out-of-state teams did not count, and River had 2 against Magnolia and Weirton Madonna. Also, 3rd level points were used that year, but then never used after that after too many teams complained.

Interestingly, Greg Thurman was not only my position coach my freshman year at Walsh, but my Geometry teacher as well. Great coach, great teacher, even better person. Was sad to hear he passed a number of years back.
 
reganaustinjames said:
According to the OHSAA points listed on their website, in 1972 in D2R7, Hannibal River actually placed 1st, with Lake 2nd and Ironton 3rd. However, from the Youngstown Vindicator on 11/13/1972, River is listed 3rd, behind Lake and Ironton. The impetus behind this is that, in 1972, wins against out-of-state teams did not count, and River had 2 against Magnolia and Weirton Madonna. Also, 3rd level points were used that year, but then never used after that after too many teams complained.

Interestingly, Greg Thurman was not only my position coach my freshman year at Walsh, but my Geometry teacher as well. Great coach, great teacher, even better person. Was sad to hear he passed a number of years back.
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Third level points were used in 1973 also.

River should have been 1st and their administration did protest to OHSAA when the pairings were announced and Lake was listed as the qualifier in their region. OHSAA said no but a few weeks later admitted that River should have qualified instead of Lake. I remember reading that OHSAA gave River a plaque attesting that they should have qualified. As I remember it, it was blamed on a computer error.

The Harbin system was predicated on a 10-game schedule, at it still is. Even in 1972 OHSAA had provisions for teams that did not play 10 games, due to open dates, out of state teams or other non-OHSAA member teams (they were all treated as open dates), being awarded points for those games. At least it was listed that they did and how they did it.

At that time the Harbin points were just totaled up, 1st level plus 2nd level plus 3rd level. Highest point total got in. However even though it wasn't an average per game like today, teams with less than 10 games were awarded an average for the open date or dates and that number was used for their total for the missing games. They were supposed to divide the totals by games played and put that number in for the missing games in the respective levels. Something got messed up in River's case and OHSAA did not get it corrected until it was too late.

BTW I do have the original point totals and River was listed with 19 L1, 70 L2 & 240 L3 points for a total of 329. That was good for 3rd in the region and that is how Lake got in. The corrected totals that OHSAA show for River were 19 L1, 79 L2 & 300 L3 points for a total of 398 which was first in the region. OHSAA messed up.
 
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OHSAA also seemed to be using an old computer (probably with Fortran). You would calculate a team's points by hand and get exactly 24.0000. Then the OHSAA list would come out and the team would be listed as having 23.9986, or something like that. The first two decimal points were usually good, but after that, who knew where those numbers came from.
 
Rangerfan said:
OHSAA also seemed to be using an old computer (probably with Fortran). You would calculate a team's points by hand and get exactly 24.0000. Then the OHSAA list would come out and the team would be listed as having 23.9986, or something like that. The first two decimal points were usually good, but after that, who knew where those numbers came from.
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I should cut OHSAA some slack because If I remember correctly OHSAA didn't run their own computers at the time the playoffs started. They had an outside firm in Columbus take care of the Harbins. I actually talked to the guy who did all the programming for them about 3rd level points and the little "glitch" the Harbin system had with 3rd level way back in 1973. I don't remember his name, but I think the name of the company was National Scanning.
 
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