Yoooo! Youth sports will have you snitching on yourself in front of the cops. haha
Because their FN Ignorant!!Parents are the absolute WORST fans. No doubt about that.
Buuuut.....kids sports cannot go on without them.
I concur...any said tournament director needs to lay down the law quickly.
What is the freaking deal with people? it is a freaking K I D S game.
K I D S!
Why do people get this mad?
More soccer..... (apologies for the poor iphone camera work)
This is pretty much how it should be. The person who clearly doesn’t know how to behave can leave or the Officials can!for the few events i work out of hoops season. i let the assignor know. and i've done it. if coaches or fans get crazy i'm leaving. no questions asked. i don't need the headache. im there to help out. im a good official and don't deal with it anymore. if they say you can't work then. i say ok. thanks anyway.
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Parents are the absolute WORST fans. No doubt about that.
Buuuut.....kids sports cannot go on without them.
I concur...any said tournament director needs to lay down the law quickly.
What is the freaking deal with people? it is a freaking K I D S game.
K I D S!
Why do people get this mad?
yes, you should have seen the reaction of the coach of a 2nd grade boys team at sports plus a couple weekends ago when i left. lol. he said i can't leave. i said 2nd grade shouldn't be playing in a tournament especially when they can press and have a 14 minute half and i left. have fun reffing the game better than i did because you obviously want to wear a striped shirt. see you later.This is pretty much how it should be. The person who clearly doesn’t know how to behave can leave or the Officials can!
Was that the Tournament that had Police Officers on duty? Was that the Tournament with a 1st grade division that had stop and go clock? You just straight up left?yes, you should have seen the reaction of the coach of a 2nd grade boys team at sports plus a couple weekends ago when i left. lol. he said i can't leave. i said 2nd grade shouldn't be playing in a tournament especially when they can press and have a 14 minute half and i left. have fun reffing the game better than i did because you obviously want to wear a striped shirt. see you later.
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They certainly are not learning how to resolve conflict. Not good...Good for you. They must start paying well for real security instead of lining their pockets with money. This crap will not end well at some point. Our country is sadly an extension of our athletes at these lower levels. My God , what are these kids learning? They just want to have Fun. ?
yes and yes. i told the coaches that i wasn't going to call every travel and double dribble. he said i needed to call it by the rules. i said have fun reffing and coaching. that tournament was a joke.Was that the Tournament that had Police Officers on duty? Was that the Tournament with a 1st grade division that had stop and go clock? You just straight up left?
I guess the only other option than walking out would be to go the opposite route and call EVERY travel and double dribble! In a first grade game neither team would ever get a shot off because it would be one long series of turnovers and inbounds plays! It'd be like the police when they want to get their message across and instead of getting the "blue flu" they write tickets for every minor traffic infraction they see!yes and yes. i told the coaches that i wasn't going to call every travel and double dribble. he said i needed to call it by the rules. i said have fun reffing and coaching. that tournament was a joke.
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And if it were stop and go clock, the game would take at least 90 minutes.I guess the only other option than walking out would be to go the opposite route and call EVERY travel and double dribble! In a first grade game neither team would ever get a shot off because it would be one long series of turnovers and inbounds plays! It'd be like the police when they want to get their message across and instead of getting the "blue flu" they write tickets for every minor traffic infraction they see!
What a wonderful world we would live in if this were to happen.......I think this can be solved or at least tempered with some good old fashioned communications. The tournament directors need to communicate with the coaches that there will be no confrontation of officials, no berating the players and no conversations with opposing teams unless it's positive. THEN, the coach needs to communicate to the parents the exact same message AND the coach needs to adhere to these rules.
In most of these instances, the fans / parents will follow the coach's lead. You have a nutty / intense coach and the fans generally misbehave. Not always, but alot of the time.
I would instruct the officials to nip any issues in the bud. Make people examples if necessary.
These are RECREATION games, not professional games or anything remotely close to it.
I certainly don't blame you. I think over time, people have got more and more crazy. Everyone is competitive and I understand the passion, but you also have to have a sense of treating people the right way.What a wonderful world we would live in if this were to happen.......
I was a part of an entire group of officials who walked mid-tournament, mid games because a TD would not support an official who was "nipping it in the bud"...
They went out and got more officials who were there just to grab $25 a game. Lazy, limited rules knowledge, and subservient to to money grabbers. Unfortunately, there are more of those men and women out there than there with that mindset than the ones who actually come to officiate.
That's because the men and women who work those 6-8 games a day are the ones I refer to. Just there to pick up $25 cash and get out of there. They don't run. They don't work. Their job is to keep the games moving......period.I've often wondered how an official can do one, possibly two games a day during the regular season. Yet these shoot-outs and team camps, you'll have officials doing games for 6-8 hours straight! I'd think you're focus is gone by game 3.
let's be honest, these are non-sanctioned events and the goal is for kids to play and get exposure. The TD's need people to officiate and the officials can make a couple hundred bucks a day for blowing a whistle.That's because the men and women who work those 6-8 games a day are the ones I refer to. Just there to pick up $25 cash and get out of there. They don't run. They don't work. Their job is to keep the games moving......period.
They are as complicit as the TD's.
seriously...this happened and the coach wasn't happy. he said this is 2nd grade bb and you call that. lol i can't make this up. its unreal. never again will i do a tournament with these rules. btw, i only do games if im bored and nothing else to do but watch the grass grow. lolI guess the only other option than walking out would be to go the opposite route and call EVERY travel and double dribble! In a first grade game neither team would ever get a shot off because it would be one long series of turnovers and inbounds plays! It'd be like the police when they want to get their message across and instead of getting the "blue flu" they write tickets for every minor traffic infraction they see!
Amd allow games to go on during downpour s until the TD calls it. Gotta get those games in. .That's because the men and women who work those 6-8 games a day are the ones I refer to. Just there to pick up $25 cash and get out of there. They don't run. They don't work. Their job is to keep the games moving......period.
They are as complicit as the TD's.
Downpour? Are you looking for the baseball forum? lol Unless they're playing on outdoor courts now.Amd allow games to go on during downpour s until the TD calls it. Gotta get those games in. .
At a tourny this weekend....4 game min. Rain killed it. But to get the 4 games in and offer no refunds....have games Sunday night as late as 7 pm.......
He might mean travel ball culture across different sports.Downpour? Are you looking for the baseball forum? lol Unless they're playing on outdoor courts now.
No. These officials are the only people willing to do these games........this number of games. I know guys who do 10-12 games a day. Know why? Because the tournament host can't find people to do 3-4 games and then bring in another group of officials to do 3-4 more games. There is a shortage of basketball officials, mostly because the whining and complaining doesn't stop and the pay stinks. It is basic economics, no one is knocking on the door to referee youth basketball. They have to beg people to do it.That's because the men and women who work those 6-8 games a day are the ones I refer to. Just there to pick up $25 cash and get out of there. They don't run. They don't work. Their job is to keep the games moving......period.
They are as complicit as the TD's.