Hoban 35 Massillon 6

[Redwing]

Luke Fisher will be a quality QB next year for Hoban. He transferred after his 9th grade year at Medina.

He threw a really nice ball down the seam in the Hudson game. Looked like a very natural passer.

 

[clarkgriswold]

Hamm is also D1 caliber he will be going to Dayton

If he has the chance to go to an Ivy he needs to take it. Dayton is a fine school but you don't pass on a free Ivy League education.

 

[arizonawildcat]

SOME OF WHAT I POSTED WAS TONGUE IN CHEEK.
BUT THE STATS AND Massillon'S PROGRAM OF EXCELLENCE WERE ACCURATE.
AND IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN TO PAUL BROWN TIGER STADIUM FOR A BIG GAME, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE MISSING.
IT'S NOT JUST A GAME. IT'S AN EVENT. WIN OR LOSE.
FOR HIGHSCHOOL FOOTBALL FANS, IT DOESN'T GET ANY BETTER.
MAYBE A FEW VENUES COMPARABLE, NONE BETTER.

stop shouting!

 

[Purple Hayes]

Then we have the chief troll that's been waiting his chance to try and discredit Massillon team and tradition because they can't compete with the all-star teams. Moore has proven what he can do, on the field and I wouldn't bet against him make the parochial cry about "open enrollment" like public complain about parochials built-in advantage!

At least now I know what the DB stands for.....does anybody other than me see the irony in above statement (and BTW, I have no problem with transfers/OE, etc.)

 

[Hill Top]

Jump on the bandwagon troll and wait till another team does what yours' can't. There's maybe two posters from Hoban posting about the game. The rest are following teams that can't beat Massillon. SO they take their cheap shots when they can.

Then we have the chief troll that's been waiting his chance to try and discredit Massillon team and tradition because they can't compete with the all-star teams. Moore has proven what he can do, on the field and I wouldn't bet against him make the parochial cry about "open enrollment" like public complain about parochials built-in advantage!

Massillon tradition and state titles are untouchable and no matter how you try to spin it, Massillon will be adding to them before ANYONE comes close to catching them

DB135 I will agree with you about Massillon tradition it is untouchable. I been to many Tigers games over last 25 years and there is no one that can match game day at Paul Brown Stadium. I have seen the Tigers take down many Ohio State Power programs like Canton McKinley and Steubenville Big Red but as for the State Titles well there is this. Massillon Washington currently holds the record for most playoff appearances by a high school football team without actually winning a state championship since 1970. The teams on this list have more State Football Championships then Massillon. I think what you should say is Massillon has a long way to go to match the most football titles in Ohio.
Champions[edit]
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Year	Division I / AAA	Division II	Division III / AA	Division IV	Division V / A	Division VI	Division VII
2020	Cincinnati St. Xavier	Akron Archbishop Hoban	Scheduled	Scheduled	Kirtland	Scheduled	New Bremen
2019	Pickerington Central	Cincinnati La Salle	Trotwood-Madison	Clyde	Kirtland	Anna	Maria Stein Marion Local
2018	Lakewood St. Edward	Akron Archbishop Hoban	Kenston	Cincinnati Wyoming	Orrville	Kirtland	McComb
2017	Pickerington Central	Akron Archbishop Hoban	Trotwood-Madison	Steubenville	Wheelersburg	Maria Stein Marion Local	Minster
2016	Cincinnati St. Xavier	Cincinnati La Salle	Akron Archbishop Hoban	Columbus Bishop Hartley	Canton Central Catholic	Maria Stein Marion Local	Warren John F. Kennedy
2015	Lakewood St. Edward	Cincinnati La Salle	Akron Archbishop Hoban	Columbus Bishop Hartley	Coldwater	Kirtland	Fort Recovery
2014	Lakewood St. Edward	Cincinnati La Salle	Toledo Central Catholic	Cleveland Benedictine	Coldwater	Minster	Maria Stein Marion Local
2013	Cincinnati Archbishop Moeller	Loveland	Akron St. Vincent-St. Mary	Clarksville Clinton-Massie	Coldwater	Kirtland	Maria Stein Marion Local
2012	Cincinnati Archbishop Moeller	Toledo Central Catholic	Akron St. Vincent-St. Mary	Clarksville Clinton-Massie	Coldwater	Maria Stein Marion Local
2011	Cleveland St. Ignatius	Trotwood-Madison	Youngstown Cardinal Mooney	Creston Norwayne	Kirtland	Maria Stein Marion Local
2010	Lakewood St. Edward	Maple Heights	Columbus Bishop Watterson	Columbus Bishop Hartley	Youngstown Ursuline	Delphos St. John's
2009	Hilliard Davidson	Cincinnati Winton Woods	Youngstown Cardinal Mooney	Kettering Archbishop Alter	Youngstown Ursuline	Norwalk St. Paul
2008	Cleveland St. Ignatius	Sylvania Southview	Aurora	Kettering Archbishop Alter	Youngstown Ursuline	Delphos St. John's
2007	Cincinnati St. Xavier	Cincinnati Anderson	Sunbury Big Walnut	Coldwater	Maria Stein Marion Local	Newark Catholic
2006	Hilliard Davidson	Piqua	Steubenville	Youngstown Cardinal Mooney	St. Henry	Maria Stein Marion Local
2005	Cincinnati St. Xavier	Toledo Central Catholic	Steubenville	Coldwater	Hamler Patrick Henry	Delphos St. John's
2004	Cincinnati Colerain	Columbus Brookhaven	Cleveland Benedictine	Youngstown Cardinal Mooney	St. Henry	Hardin Northern
2003	Cincinnati Elder	Avon Lake	Cleveland Benedictine	Versailles	Gahanna Columbus Academy	Columbus Grove
2002	Cincinnati Elder	Dayton Chaminade-Julienne	Columbus Bishop Watterson	Kenton	Marion Pleasant	Mogadore
2001	Cleveland St. Ignatius	Toledo St. Francis De Sales	Mentor Lake Catholic	Kenton	Bedford St. Peter Chanel	Maria Stein Marion Local
2000	Upper Arlington	Olmsted Falls	Central Catholic	Youngstown Ursuline	Amanda-Clearcreek	Maria Stein Marion Local
1999	Cleveland St. Ignatius	Cuyahoga Falls Walsh Jesuit	Poland Seminary	Perkins	Amanda-Clearcreek	Delphos St. John's
1998	Canton McKinley	Lebanon	Columbus St. Francis De Sales	Orrville	Versailles	Delphos St. John's
1997	Canton McKinley	Defiance	Columbus St. Francis De Sales	Germantown Valley View	Liberty Center	Delphos St. John's
1996	Lima Senior	Fostoria	Cleveland Benedictine	Germantown Valley View	Marion Pleasant	Mogadore
1995	Cleveland St. Ignatius	Dublin Scioto	Clyde	Versailles	Lisbon David Anderson	St. Henry
1994	Cleveland St. Ignatius	Chardon	Beloit West Branch	Germantown Valley View	Versailles	St. Henry
1993	Cleveland St. Ignatius	St. Marys Memorial	Wauseon	Versailles	Steubenville Catholic Central
1992	Cleveland St. Ignatius	St. Marys Memorial	Mentor Lake Catholic	Cincinnati Academy of Physical Education	St. Henry
1991	Cleveland St. Ignatius	Fostoria	Mentor Lake Catholic	Warren John F. Kennedy	Newark Catholic
1990	Warren Warren G. Harding	St. Marys Memorial	Hamilton Badin	Versailles	St. Henry
1989	Cleveland St. Ignatius	Cleveland St. Joseph	Ironton	Wheelersburg	Minster
1988	Cleveland St. Ignatius	Akron Buchtel	Akron St. Vincent-St. Mary	Canton Central Catholic	Archbold
1987	Cincinnati Princeton	Akron Buchtel	Youngstown Cardinal Mooney	Gahanna Columbus Academy	Newark Catholic
1986	Fairfield	Cincinnati Purcell Marian	Cincinnati Academy of Physical Education	Columbus Bishop Hartley	Newark Catholic
1985	Cincinnati Archbishop Moeller	Galion	Columbus St. Francis De Sales	Cincinnati Academy of Physical Education	Newark Catholic
1984	Toledo St. Francis De Sales	Steubenville	Elyria Catholic	Louisville St. Thomas Aquinas	Newark Catholic
1983	Cincinnati Princeton	Brecksville-Broadview Heights	Elyria Catholic	Columbus Bishop Ready	McComb
1982	Cincinnati Archbishop Moeller	Youngstown Cardinal Mooney	Akron St. Vincent-St. Mary	West Jefferson	Newark Catholic
1981	Canton McKinley	Cleveland Benedictine	Akron St. Vincent-St. Mary	Nelsonville-York	Tiffin Calvert
1980	Cincinnati Archbishop Moeller	Youngstown Cardinal Mooney	Cleveland Benedictine	Garfield Heights Trinity	Tiffin Calvert
1979	Cincinnati Archbishop Moeller		Ironton		Mogadore
1978	Cincinnati Princeton		Brookfield		Newark Catholic
1977	Cincinnati Archbishop Moeller		Cincinnati Wyoming		Crooksville
1976	Cincinnati Archbishop Moeller		Elyria Catholic		West Jefferson
1975	Cincinnati Archbishop Moeller		Parma Heights Holy Name		Carey
1974	Warren Warren G. Harding		Norwalk		Middletown Bishop Fenwick
1973	Youngstown Cardinal Mooney		Cleveland Benedictine		Middletown Bishop Fenwick
1972	Warren Western Reserve		Akron St. Vincent-St. Mary		Marion Pleasant

 

[HobanBeliever10]

If he has the chance to go to an Ivy he needs to take it. Dayton is a fine school but you don't pass on a free Ivy League education.

he hasn’t officially committed to Dayton just yet, he’s weighing his options and will make the decision on what’s best for him .... I on the other hand am hoping for Dayton because it’s a 3 hour drive to see home games

 

[BIG ED]

At least now I know what the DB stands for.....does anybody other than me see the irony in above statement (and BTW, I have no problem with transfers/OE, etc.)

Hayes, DB needs to go down to the Alibi, have a couple shots & a beer and get over himself and the last few years losses. It’s starting to get to him

 

[DB135]

Hayes, DB needs to go down to the Alibi, have a couple shots & a beer and get over himself and the last few years losses. It’s starting to get to him

The hypocrisy you display, has to do with someone who misrepresents himself as an objective, neutral fan gloating in Massillon's state championship record. At the same time you support your coaches' hypocrisy toward Massillon, that results directly from his failure to coach to his talent, being the primary cause of players transferring ANYWHERE! He further shows his lack of character, by manipulating the seeding process against a team, he can't beat and in print has described as the best in the region.

The posts are mean spirited and display the consistent desire to discredit Massillon tradition because you KNOW your teams will NEVER equal it, as we hear you regurgitate the same baseless attempts to discredit Massillon's championships! No one cares about your "opinion"! Show us anywhere poll championships has been removed by the OHSAA and aren't listed accordingly.

Of course playoffs have as many issues as polls and I previously posted the links from the Massillon Booster Club that prove it but that doesn't fit your false narrative, so you ignore it.

https://massillontigers.com/pdfs/Looking%20Back%20at%20the%20Ohio%20Football%20Championships%20National.pdf

https://massillontigers.com/pdfs/Looking%20Back%20at%20the%20OHSAA%20Play%20offs.pdf

https://massillontigers.com/pdfs/Looking%20Back%20at%20the%20Ohio%20Football%20Championships%20Polls.pdf

https://massillontigers.com/pdfs/Looking%20Back%20at%20the%20OHIO%20Football%20Championships%20Number%201.pdf

https://massillontigers.com/pdfs/greatest_championship_run.pdf

A few posters couldn't even stay off the game play-by-play and had to start their own threads to draw all the trolls in, to take their shots. Do they even mention the uneven playing field, that will eventually cause the all-star teams to be placed in a different division, unable to fill a schedule?

Better yet, do they attack college polls championships of Ohio State, Notre or Oklahoma, of course not?!

Will teams schedule the all-stars when their teams are so physically beat-up they can't be competitive for weeks?! How many Massillon players suffered SERIOUS injuries against a team, so physically superior to them in many positions? (I remember RIck Spielman after a Moeller championship game having two broken thumbs!) How many teams will continue to tolerate the superiority of these teams when that is the result?!

 

[BIG ED]

The hypocrisy you display, has to do with someone who misrepresents himself as an objective, neutral fan gloating in Massillon's state championship record. At the same time you fsupport your coaches' hypocrisy toward Massillon, that results directly from his failure to coach to his talent, being the primary cause of players transferring ANYWHERE! He further shows his lack of character, by manipulating the seeding process against a team, he can't beat and in print has described as the best in the region.

The posts are mean spirited and display the consistent desire to discredit Massillon tradition because you KNOW you teams will NEVER equal it as we hear you regurgitate the same baseless attempts to discredit Massillon's championships!

Wow, more proof that DB needs a bender..if he thinks I’m mean spirited lol. Dude, Hypocrisy, lol, all you’ve done is attack Wakefield and our program, you bitterman. I guess blocking you will be next, because you obviously have a problem and there’s little use in carrying on this conversation any further. I sincerely hope you get over this soon. It’s not good for your health to dwell on disappointing things to long.

 

[DB135]

Wow, more proof that DB needs a bender..if he thinks I’m mean spirited lol. Dude, Hypocrisy, lol, all you’ve done is attack Wakefield and our program, you bitterman. I guess blocking you will be next, because you obviously have a problem and there’s little use in carrying on this conversation any further. I sincerely hope you get over this soon. It’s not good for your health to dwell on disappointing things to long.

Seriously you don't believe I even give your childish posting a second thought?! This has been going on for decades.

The surprise was a few posters, like you, who misrepresent themselves as fair, objective observers taking your, thinly vailed shots (because YOU can't get over Massillon dominance of your team's program).

I presented FACTS about your coach that you CAN"T rebut, so you attack me, to defer where the problem actually exists.

YOU buy into your coaches bitterness toward Massillon, that causes him and your fans to blame transfers, other than where it actually originates.

Your conferences block voting that corrupts the true seeding of teams, is a long time tradition.

You mistakenly think that after Massillon suffers another humiliating defeat at the hands of an all-star team, that fans will be unresponsive to the shots you STARTED, AGAIN about our program.

Reread your post, I described your post and your intentions in posting it accurately!

 

[BIG ED]

Seriously you don't believe I even give your childish posting a second thought?! This has been going on for decades.

The surprise was a few posters, like you, who misrepresent themselves as fair, objective observers taking your, thinly vailed shots (because YOU can't get over Massillon dominance of your team's program).

I presented FACTS about your coach that you CAN"T rebut, so you attack me, to defer where the problem actually exists.

YOU buy into your coaches bitterness toward Massillon, that causes him and your fans to blame transfers, other than where it actually originates.

Your conferences block voting that corrupts the true seeding of teams, is a long time tradition.

You mistakenly think that after Massillon suffers another humiliating defeat at the hands of an all-star team, that fans will be unresponsive to the shots you STARTED, AGAIN about our program.

Reread your post, I described your post and your intentions in posting it accurately!

Anything new to say? Guess not, the same old tripe over and over. SMH...goodbye to you. I honestly feel sorry for you. Oh, by the way, I’ll no longer see any of your posts, so keep babbling away.

 

[PerryDude]

Seriously you don't believe I even give your childish posting a second thought?! This has been going on for decades.

The surprise was a few posters, like you, who misrepresent themselves as fair, objective observers taking your, thinly vailed shots (because YOU can't get over Massillon dominance of your team's program).

I presented FACTS about your coach that you CAN"T rebut, so you attack me, to defer where the problem actually exists.

YOU buy into your coaches bitterness toward Massillon, that causes him and your fans to blame transfers, other than where it actually originates.

Your conferences block voting that corrupts the true seeding of teams, is a long time tradition.

You mistakenly think that after Massillon suffers another humiliating defeat at the hands of an all-star team, that fans will be unresponsive to the shots you STARTED, AGAIN about our program.

Reread your post, I described your post and your intentions in posting it accurately!

How in the wide, wide world of sports do you not realize that Massillon is an all star team? How you feel now is how I felt after the Perry/Massillon game. I'm not trying to start crap but that's how I feel, in can not speak for all of Perry. Massillon was loaded the last 3 for sure you guys just came up short.

 

[DB135]

Anything new to say? Guess not, the same old tripe over and over. SMH...goodbye to you. I honestly feel sorry for you. Oh, by the way, I’ll no longer see any of your posts, so keep babbling away.

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

I KNEW that's the way people like you respond to the TRUTH!

Attack the messenger, ignore the facts because you have NO LEGITIMATE response, rely on other posters to BLINDLY support your baseless posts and then block what makes you look ENTIRELY foolish.

In all the years you've been posting, I've NEVER conversed with you, too bad this was the only insistence. I wouldn't miss the posts of a closet troll!

 

[DB135]

How in the wide, wide world of sports do you not realize that Massillon is an all star team? How you feel now is how I felt after the Perry/Massillon game. I'm not trying to start crap but that's how I feel, in can not speak for all of Perry. Massillon was loaded the last 3 for sure you guys just came up short.

Thanks for proving my point. I SUPPORT Coach Moore, in being knowledgeable enough to TRY and even the playing field.

As you can see, IF Massillon is THAT far ahead of most of the programs in the state, how far do they have to go, to field a team that is competitive with these teams? I call an all-star team, one that draws from 55 feeder schools, over 7 counties, to field their team.

Nate Moore is familiar with what it takes to be competitive with these teams and I'm certain he will bridge the current gap!

 

[clarkgriswold]

Yappi really needs an option to dislike posts.

 

[SMARTY22]

Massillon stunk last night! Nothing will change that.

 

[The Butler]

What does Perry or North Canton softball have to do with Massillon losing a state title game?

Or is it just more deflection that if other schools get transfers, we can recruit?

 

[DB135]

Yappi really needs an option to dislike posts.

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[PerryDude]

Thanks for proving my point. I SUPPORT Coach Moore, in being knowledgeable enough to TRY and even the playing field.

As you can see, IF Massillon is THAT far ahead of most of the programs in the state, how far do they have to go, to field a team that is competitive with these teams? I call an all-star team, one that draws from 55 feeder schools, over 7 counties, to field their team.

Nate Moore is familiar with what it takes to be competitive with these teams and I'm certain he will bridge the current gap!

Dang, you kinda have my head spinning right now? I'm gonna go into hibernation until next season. LOL!

 

[DB135]

What does Perry or North Canton softball have to do with Massillon losing a state title game?

Or is it just more deflection that if other schools get transfers, we can recruit?

I guess you don't understand hypocrisy. Posters who follow teams that openly recruit, attacking others as if they don't. Don't let me stop you from attacking my posts and ignoring the facts.

After six state finals losses, isn't it clear what it will take to win a state championship and should changes be made, to put these teams, in a different division?

The physical discrepancy is so great that teams aren't beat, they are physically beat up.

Yet, most posters ignore what these teams do to completive balance and only marvel at their talent and performance!

 

[PerryDude]

Thanks for proving my point. I SUPPORT Coach Moore, in being knowledgeable enough to TRY and even the playing field.

As you can see, IF Massillon is THAT far ahead of most of the programs in the state, how far do they have to go, to field a team that is competitive with these teams? I call an all-star team, one that draws from 55 feeder schools, over 7 counties, to field their team.

Nate Moore is familiar with what it takes to be competitive with these teams and I'm certain he will bridge the current gap!

Dang, you kinda have my head spinning right now? I'm gonna go into hibernation until next season. LOL!

What does Perry or North Canton softball have to do with Massillon losing a state title game?

Or is it just more deflection that if other schools get transfers, we can recruit?

Is Football the only sport that Perry is D2 in? I assumed that Perry is in D1 for everything else?

 

[Starkcountylegend]

Seriously you don't believe I even give your childish posting a second thought?! This has been going on for decades.

The surprise was a few posters, like you, who misrepresent themselves as fair, objective observers taking your, thinly vailed shots (because YOU can't get over Massillon dominance of your team's program).

I presented FACTS about your coach that you CAN"T rebut, so you attack me, to defer where the problem actually exists.

YOU buy into your coaches bitterness toward Massillon, that causes him and your fans to blame transfers, other than where it actually originates.

Your conferences block voting that corrupts the true seeding of teams, is a long time tradition.

You mistakenly think that after Massillon suffers another humiliating defeat at the hands of an all-star team, that fans will be unresponsive to the shots you STARTED, AGAIN about our program.

Reread your post, I described your post and your intentions in posting it accurately!

If it makes you happy that Massillon won a quasi Federal League Title since they are more than likely never sniffing a Federal League then have at it. Maybe they could schedule a Suburban League team next year, so that they could say they won the alternative Suburban League, since the Suburban League rejected them out of hand. The bottom line is that through all the cheating, transfers, high paid coaches, Massillon has never been able to win a legit state title on the field! Your school is the Nebraska of Ohio High School Football, lots of paper titles, but no real titles, or the Buffalo Bills of Ohio High School Football. One has to ask, has the illegal recruiting, the under the table recruiting, been worth it? While Massillon fans (most) will say that they don't need a league, it seems like the administration at Massillon disagrees, but Massillon hasn't just burnt bridges, but they have nuked them with unscrupulous behavior that they are toxic to any league. Yes, Moore might stay, where would he and his wife go to run such an economic con job on another school, but Tyrell schooled Moore, it was like an 8th grade coach against Nick Saban. The last three years were probably the Tigers best window to finally win the elusive state title, but that window has closed, perhaps Moore can get a great recruiting class, but if you're relying on the feeder program at Massillon, there is zero chance of a state title. The football program becomes like all the rest of the Tigers sports programs, zero chance for a state title, no matter the sport basketball, softball, baseball, the Tigers have no chance at a state title, let alone a district title, if they solely have to rely on their feeder program.

 

[PerryDude]

I guess you don't understand hypocrisy. Posters who follow teams that openly recruit, attacking others as if they don't. Don't let me stop you from attacking my posts and ignoring the facts.

After six state finals losses, isn't it clear what it will take to win a state championship and should changes be made, to put these teams, in a different division?

So if I'm hearing you correctly you want to be the Hoban of D2?

 

[Starkcountylegend]

Dang, you kinda have my head spinning right now? I'm gonna go into hibernation until next season. LOL!

Is Football the only sport that Perry is D2 in? I assumed that Perry is in D1 for everything else?

Football is the only sport at Massillon, unlike Perry, all the rest of the sports at Massillon are DOA, no shot at even winning a District Title

 

[The Butler]

What is the most over used word by Massillon posters on yappi?

hypocrisy.

 

[Starkcountylegend]

So if I'm hearing you correctly you want to be the Hoban of D2?

Massillon has a problem, they have brought in so many kids that they are going to be bumped to D1 soon, as Moore will have to bring in alot next year. They hate Catholic schools for bringing kids in, but they do the same.

 

[DB135]

So if I'm hearing you correctly you want to be the Hoban of D2?

Really missed the point. What will it take to be competitive with theses teams? Are they having a hard time filling a schedule and should they be placed in a different division?

 

[PerryDude]

So if I'm hearing you correctly you want to be the Hoban of D2?

You want the state final to be against Perry who you guys have dominated now 17-2?

 

[DB135]

What is the most over used word by Massillon posters on yappi?

What is the typical response when you can't deal with the truth and attack the messenger, instead?

Top 10 Defense Mechanisms and Why We Use Them

Defense mechanisms are subconscious ways we deal with strong or unpleasant emotions. Learn common examples and when to seek help for unhealthy ones.

www.healthline.com

 

[PerryDude]

Really missed the point. What will it take to be competitive with theses teams? Are they having a hard time filling a schedule and should they be placed in a different division?

Again, coming from someone who has watched their team get clearly out matched? Massillon should be be D1