Perry will be a very physical team and runs the Wing-T better than Darby or Marysville.
I can guarantee you that Marysville was 100% every bit as good as Perry at operating the Wing-T. They have wave after wave of 6'3 220lb kids and just destroyed everything in their path, including the games they lost, which were more the fault of their defense.
As I said in the other thread, this game is a difficult read. Tangy absolutely DESTROYED D1 Wing-T team Darby, who recently gave to-be D1 champ Pick Central a decent half of football in the playoffs before succumbing. Tangy is playing good D1 Wing T teams, not those fed league tomato cans you have up there.
Marysville then stomped Tangy later in the year, the difference being that Marysville is just a GIGANTIC team at every position and by virtue of that, ends up being more physical. But Darby did beat Marysville, in a bit of a fluky game where Darby got an onside kick to win it, but give them credit nonetheless.
Tangy is extremely athletic and balanced/deep. No super star players, but they have 5-6 kids at skill positions that are all above average. They run an Oregon-style spread offense that is extremely run-heavy this year because the QB is a converted WR and not a natural passer. You have to respect all 3 running angles on every play (lateral WR jet motion, TB dive, QB pull and run), and that is much, much different from being able to just tee off on keying on a single player like Byrd from Canal Winchester, or even covering an option team where the QB or TB might not really be a serious threat.
Defensively, quite simply just solid in all areas. Some of the kids do play both ways, plenty of speed and strength, but the biggest thing they are lacking is size. That's why they got dominated by a team like Marysville, but where things are more even physically like with Darby, they can play with anyone. 6'4 safety Middleton is a D1 OSU baseball signee and can run with anyone, and also makes a dangerous WR when they choose to throw.
Don't let Saturday's score fool you, this was a 35-0 football game where Kilbourne happened to return a KO for a TD and then score a garbage time TD.
I haven't had a chance to watch any film on Perry yet, but ultimately this game comes down to size and technique on the lines, and we probably will know pretty early on which way this game will go. If Perry can't overpower the Tangy defenders, they will have trouble moving the ball. If Perry has size on their roster, then it is a game they should win. Despite all the college D1 linemen Tangy has produced in recent years on both sides of the ball, this is the one spot where they are lacking relative to other teams this decade.
Should be an interesting game, but may be slow-paced certainly compared to the other semi.
Omg ok you will see Friday nightNo. They dont.
You guys don't have capable D1 Triple Option/WingT teams in that area, and no one in that area understands the capabilities of teams like Marysville and Darby have, nor do you have anything even remotely like the physical size that Marysville brings to the table. D1 schools have a significant depth advantage most of the time
The Perry kids will not be better conditioned than Tangy, can promise you that. Solis hammers these kids. At some point, if the other team out averages you by 3 inches and 40 lbs of muscle per player, at that point no matter of conditioning matters and there isn't much you can do. But based on what I'm seeing on youtube, that kind of superior size isn't there on this Perry team. Marysville would flatten this Perry team.
#9 is definitely a terror on defense. But I'm sure the coaches are seeing that too and will design things around where he is. He can't guard all 5 offensive threats at once.
The teams are very similar in that they play well as a team and are well coached without any players on the "top 100 in Ohio" lists.
This is going to be an interesting game.
I don't think you've heard of Keith Wakefield and it showsNo. They dont.
You guys don't have capable D1 Triple Option/WingT teams in that area, and no one in that area understands the capabilities of teams like Marysville and Darby have, nor do you have anything even remotely like the physical size that Marysville brings to the table. D1 schools have a significant depth advantage most of the time
The Perry kids will not be better conditioned than Tangy, can promise you that. Solis hammers these kids. At some point, if the other team out averages you by 3 inches and 40 lbs of muscle per player, at that point no matter of conditioning matters and there isn't much you can do. But based on what I'm seeing on youtube, that kind of superior size isn't there on this Perry team. Marysville would flatten this Perry team.
#9 is definitely a terror on defense. But I'm sure the coaches are seeing that too and will design things around where he is. He can't guard all 5 offensive threats at once.
The teams are very similar in that they play well as a team and are well coached without any players on the "top 100 in Ohio" lists.
This is going to be an interesting game.
No. They dont.
You guys don't have capable D1 Triple Option/WingT teams in that area, and no one in that area understands the capabilities of teams like Marysville and Darby have, nor do you have anything even remotely like the physical size that Marysville brings to the table. D1 schools have a significant depth advantage most of the time
The Perry kids will not be better conditioned than Tangy, can promise you that. Solis hammers these kids. At some point, if the other team out averages you by 3 inches and 40 lbs of muscle per player, at that point no matter of conditioning matters and there isn't much you can do. But based on what I'm seeing on youtube, that kind of superior size isn't there on this Perry team. Marysville would flatten this Perry team.
#9 is definitely a terror on defense. But I'm sure the coaches are seeing that too and will design things around where he is. He can't guard all 5 offensive threats at once.
The teams are very similar in that they play well as a team and are well coached without any players on the "top 100 in Ohio" lists.
This is going to be an interesting game.
First of all, I never said Tangy would run them off the field in the 4q, I was responding to the notion that the opposite thing might happen. There is not a significant conditioning edge in this game.
Marysville would 100% beat Perry in a game this year. Prior years don't matter. Perry is not more physical than Marysville and you can't block and tackle all their 6'3 220 lbs monsters who are solid muscle and wrestle. Your only chance is to outscore them throwing the football (as Northmont did) or wait for them to make multiple turnover and specialteams mistakes (as they did vs Darby).
Yes, I'm aware that D1 is significantly down in NEO and that D2 schools are beating the good D1 schools. That's not the point. The point is, that high volume/successful D1 schools with large numbers of capable athletes dont run TO/WT up there. So there isn't a program to compare it to that has a significant advantage with the raw material they are working with. Really, no one else is doing it well in Columbus right now at all. Darby is down along with Davidson. But assuming they are "bad" because they can't get past teams like Springfield and Coffman and Pick Central in D1 playoffs is a mistake and it doesn't mean teams like Perry could beat them.
The fatal flaw with any TO/WT team is that if you run into a team that is across the board bigger, more physical, and more athletic than you, you have absolutely NO HOPE of winning because you can't be dynamic on offense. Marysville this year is that team, and they will be even better next year. If you don't believe me, schedule them next year and let's see what Perry does with OSU signee Gabe Powers (and his 2 brothers who are built similarly).
That aside, Olentangy is definitely NOT that team that has a size advantage that can overpower Perry. Both teams had schedules that ended up being pretty suspect and this will definitely be the best team Perry has played this year (though to be clear, I give Tangy no chance vs Washington). These teams are evenly matched and it's difficult to tell who might win the LOS battle. But whoever does, is going to win this game.
That’s not what he said at all...
if Tangy struggles to throw the ball this year and are going to rely on the run game to beat Perry, I think it will be a long night for the Braves.
Kramer - who is Marysville playing this week?First of all, I never said Tangy would run them off the field in the 4q, I was responding to the notion that the opposite thing might happen. There is not a significant conditioning edge in this game.
Marysville would 100% beat Perry in a game this year. Prior years don't matter. Perry is not more physical than Marysville and you can't block and tackle all their 6'3 220 lbs monsters who are solid muscle and wrestle. Your only chance is to outscore them throwing the football (as Northmont did) or wait for them to make multiple turnover and specialteams mistakes (as they did vs Darby).
Yes, I'm aware that D1 is significantly down in NEO and that D2 schools are beating the good D1 schools. That's not the point. The point is, that high volume/successful D1 schools with large numbers of capable athletes dont run TO/WT up there. So there isn't a program to compare it to that has a significant advantage with the raw material they are working with. Really, no one else is doing it well in Columbus right now at all. Darby is down along with Davidson. But assuming they are "bad" because they can't get past teams like Springfield and Coffman and Pick Central in D1 playoffs is a mistake and it doesn't mean teams like Perry could beat them.
The fatal flaw with any TO/WT team is that if you run into a team that is across the board bigger, more physical, and more athletic than you, you have absolutely NO HOPE of winning because you can't be dynamic on offense. Marysville this year is that team, and they will be even better next year. If you don't believe me, schedule them next year and let's see what Perry does with OSU signee Gabe Powers (and his 2 brothers who are built similarly).
That aside, Olentangy is definitely NOT that team that has a size advantage that can overpower Perry. Both teams had schedules that ended up being pretty suspect and this will definitely be the best team Perry has played this year (though to be clear, I give Tangy no chance vs Washington). These teams are evenly matched and it's difficult to tell who might win the LOS battle. But whoever does, is going to win this game.
Kramer - who is Marysville playing this week?
Or are they all competing in the Arnold Classic in Columbus this weekend?